Murray or Elliott

[Thomas82]

Emmitt.

Top-5 back of all-time

I have him in my top 3, and a case can be made for him as the GOAT.

 

[Thomas82]

Zeke never had 1,800 yards rushing, I guess u r adding receiving as well.

He's talking about Zeke's back-to-back 1,800-yard seasons at Ohio State.

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke never had 1,800 yards rushing, I guess u r adding receiving as well.

In college back-to-back he had 1800 yard seasons regardless of whether they were all rushing or not I have to go back and look so stop with that he didn't do this or that he's number three all time Dallas cowboy running back that's underappreciated around here and that's all I'm saying but when you come out of college being the best running back and he was because he carried those nonsense 0 quarterbacks that they had at Ohio State go back and watch who was putting up 200 yard games in the college football playoffs.. It was zeke and who came in here as a rookie and put up 1600 yards which was almost Tony and emmett's rookie years put together it was top five all time rookie years I'm saying the man's five year stretch from college to 2019 in the NFL especially had he not been suspended gets overlooked on how great he actually was people are down on zeke and I'm tired of it he's underappreciated the man was great if he ended up on a better team he may have been appreciated a little bit better....

I mean the fans around here wanna discount what he did that's fine I'm sorry but his numbers put him up there with Terrell Davis he has better numbers than Terrell Davis and Terrell Davis was on a better team I'm just talking about career numbers he's underappreciated running backs are not supposed to last this long but if we're going Murray versus Eliot just simply everything points Elliott there's nothing that Murry did the Elliot wasn't at least a little better he was a not better at touchdowns total yards receiving yards receiving touchdowns everything...

Pick who you want I'm just making my debate and argument for my guy because this dude has been underappreciated around here and I get tired of hearing it it's like all the haters with Romo and Prescott somehow down the road when you have worse guys come in you'll appreciate them later and realize they put up dynamic numbers and leave the team out of it you know the records and the playoff losses just look at what they're doing as individuals you put them on the teams that Roger and Troy run they would have the same success in my opinion because this is a team....zekiel elliott was better than murray...

 

[blueblood70]

Love ES but love me some TD.

yes the dallas cowboys have had so many great running backs weve been spoiled and its hard to pick just , you know one that stands out if you don't take the teams, they were on into account....

 

[blueblood70]

Murray for me. Was more of a weapon on the passing game.

yet he wasn't, Zeke has twice the receiving tds ,more yards etc etc it's odd how skewed people's memories are but it's OK...

 

[Arkyvarminter]

yet he wasn't, Zeke has twice the receiving tds ,more yards etc etc it's odd how skewed people's memories are but it's OK...

Zeke has 2600 rec yards and Murray has 2100 and Zeke has played one more season.

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke has 2600 rec yards and Murray has 2100 and Zeke has played one more season.

He has twice the touchdowns, what are you trying to argue?

That's all I need to know to me everyone says Murry's more explosive but zeke has so many more touchdowns that's fact that states otherwise.., has like 30 more total tds that MORE explosive where im from his one year in NE isnt adding much we are talking total careers but Hey it's all in black and white and the fact that he's still playing why isn't Murray still playing? Zeke allegedly washed still playing and already far surpassed Murray before last year in ALL category's. I like Murray but zeke was better.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

He has twice the touchdowns, what are you trying to argue?

That's all I need to know to me everyone says Murry's more explosive but zeke has so many more touchdowns that's fact that states otherwise.., has like 30 more total tds that MORE explosive where im from his one year in NE isnt adding much we are talking total careers but Hey it's all in black and white and the fact that he's still playing why isn't Murray still playing? Zeke allegedly washed still playing and already far surpassed Murray before last year in ALL category's. I like Murray but zeke was better.

Didn't say anything about TD's.

 

[blueblood70]

Didn't say anything about TD's.

That breaks any close ties I mean that's an immense amount more touchdowns way more rushing yardage yes even more receiving garbage I mean people keep saying these things but it's OK if you like Murray better like Murray better he was not better in the past game people forget zeke this first four or five years here and some of the offices just didn't use the running back enough we've seen it the last two years how many touches was Pollard getting as a running back coming out of the backfield not enough I blame that on our coaches.... A lot of things changed in 2019 when Kelly Moore came and Ezekiel Elliott started not being as good starting with that and losing Frederick at center and all that other good stuff but just talking about head to head even if it was close in anyone's mind the touchdowns breaks that in every way...IMHO

 

[gtb1943]

Didn't say anything about TD's.

That is like saying the roof is great when the walls are falling down
in case you have not noticed, TDs are THE most important stat

 

[Arkyvarminter]

That breaks any close ties I mean that's an immense amount more touchdowns way more rushing yardage yes even more receiving garbage I mean people keep saying these things but it's OK if you like Murray better like Murray better he was not better in the past game people forget zeke this first four or five years here and some of the offices just didn't use the running back enough we've seen it the last two years how many touches was Pollard getting as a running back coming out of the backfield not enough I blame that on our coaches.... A lot of things changed in 2019 when Kelly Moore came and Ezekiel Elliott started not being as good starting with that and losing Frederick at center and all that other good stuff but just talking about head to head even if it was close in anyone's mind the touchdowns breaks that in every way..

Zeke always got ALL the touches in the red zone. Murray, not so much. The TD's don't carry alot of weight with me....

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke always got ALL the touches in the red zone. Murray, not so much. The TD's don't carry alot of weight with me....

If he was a weapon he would've got the touches doesn't that not make sense to you that if Murray was such a weapon, why didn't he get to touch it I mean you don't leave a weapon on the bench? SMH UMM someone leaving common sense at the door the facts all show in writing black and white zeke was better in every way not much but there's a gap it's a fine line but there's a definite gap...

 

[Arkyvarminter]

If he was a weapon he would've got the touches doesn't that not make sense to you that if Murray was such a weapon, why didn't he get to touch it I mean you don't leave a weapon on the bench? SMH UMM someone leaving common sense at the door the facts all show in writing black and white zeke was better in every way not much but there's a gap it's a fine line but there's a definite gap...

Zeke averaged 8.8 TD's per season rushing. Murray averaged 7 per season.....big difference

 

[gtb1943]

Zeke averaged 8.8 TD's per season. Murray averaged 7 per season.....big difference

I am willing to bet ask any GM in the league which one they would rather have had and they would all pick Zeke
RB coaches as well

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke averaged 8.8 TD's per season rushing. Murray averaged 7 per season.....big difference

first of all that's not the way you do it but Elliott only played one more season he has 71 touchdowns rushing two murrays 49 Elliott has 14 touchdowns receiving to six for Murray let me do some real math for you 85 to 52 Zeke did not have 33 tds last year LOL he had 5 total.. i mean 1 more year ok 80-52 your math is so off and not how it works..

try harder

 

[DandyDon52]

Ezekiel Elliott. Final answer. And my reason is on fumbling alone.

Elliott has fumbled more than Demarco Murray over the same timespan. However, Murray had a tendency of carrying the ball like a loaf of bread at times.

There is no way of proving it but I will state there would have been a far less likely chance of Elliott fumbling during that key drive against the Packers in the 2014 playoffs. Murray had a HUGE hole to run through. Julius Peppers was clearly blocked out of the hole by Zack Martin but Peppers reached back into the hole and stripped Murray of the ball.

Ball security is an every player responsibility. It is not whenever a running back decides to properly cover up the ball running through the freaking line of scrimmage. Remember your Pee Wee football training!

/old but fresh rant

you do know he had a broken hand with cast on it ?? lol
A good HC would have played randle who was also fresh as well as totally healthy, and a good RB.
I have to add peppers made a fool of a young martin on that play, and anytime a defender comes from behind it will surprise the RB.
Martin had a habit of bending over too far when block and peppers just pushed down on his back, and down he goes.
Which left peppers free to pursue the rb. If martin had made a better block, few more seconds, that strip doesnt happen.

 

[DallasEast]

you do know he had a broken hand with cast on it ??

You do know a cast does not prevent a running back from properly covering and protecting the ball as they run through the line of scrimmage? You do know Demarco Murray is not the only running back to ever wear a cast while playing in a game?

 

[DandyDon52]

Just curious which of these backs you would prefer if you were starting a team and they were in their prime. I know they were both great and all but sometimes I feel Demarco Murray doesn't get quiet the credit when discussing former Cowboy RB's.....

Murray. Dude was a stud and would punish defenders. I will add to this, I liked watching him run and he had class as a player.
That is probably why jerry didnt like him. Jerry is attracted to the seedy types, as they are like him lol.
He was the best dallas RB ever, and has the records to prove it. Emmitt was the best long term back.

Murray still holds the most yards in a game record, and in a season record. And jones boys low balled him lol.
And that led to him leaving and romo getting hurt, as they didnt have that same run game in 2015.

 

[DandyDon52]

You do know a cast does not prevent a running back from properly covering and protecting the ball as they run through the line of scrimmage? You do know Demarco Murray is not the only running back to ever wear a cast while playing in a game?

each injury is different, and there are many variables at play there.
I would have played randle over murray with the bad hand, it is common sense.
And like I said all rb are not expecting anything from behind.

 

[DallasEast]

each injury is different, and there are many variables at play there.
I would have played randle over murray with the bad hand, it is common sense.
And like I said all rb are not expecting anything from behind.

Doing a little research. Will check back in soon.