Murray or Elliott

[Established1971]

If you want Demarco Murray to get his flowers then don't compare him to Zeke in his prime. It's not close.

Murray had a better single season so its closer than you think

 

[heir]

Just curious which of these backs you would prefer if you were starting a team and they were in their prime. I know they were both great and all but sometimes I feel Demarco Murray doesn't get quiet the credit when discussing former Cowboy RB's.....

I think it's Elliott and I don't even think it is that close

 

[phildadon86]

Murray did take a lot of heat for that fumble, but I saw it differently. Peppers, the new HOF inductee, made a hell of a play.

He did. However. During the season Murray had a fumble issue because he didn’t hold the ball correctly.

He is quoted as saying he wasn’t going to change that or the way he ran. He gets blamed because he had a touchdown in front of him if he held onto the ball. That touchdown would have made that game impossible for GB to claw their way back into.

Even with the crookedness of Steratore. Cobb catch is what I am referring to btw

 

[quickccc]

Murray. Dude was a stud and would punish defenders.

Zeke .. .Dude would both punish defenders ...as well as go the distance in a blink.

If Murray had Zeke's homerun burst and speed, Cowboys would've re-signed Murray instead of drafting ZKE with the 4th overall pick.

 

[Carson]

Zeke. Without his suspension he would’ve been the rushing champ 3 years in a row

 

[DallasEast]

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[DallasEast]

DeMarco Murray impresses Cowboys by playing with broken hand​

By Schuyler Dixon | Austin American-Statesman
December 22, 2014

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Murray broke his left hand in the Dec. 14 win at Philadelphia, which gave the Cowboys the NFC East lead. He had surgery the next day, was doing individual drills with protective padding two days after that, and had 22 carries in a 42-7 win Sunday over the Colts that clinched the division title and ended Dallas’ four-year playoff drought.

“It affected me a little bit,” said Murray, who matched his season low in per-carry average at 2.6 yards from the previous week against the Eagles...Read more
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[DallasEast]

Okay. Now I'm done revisiting that play. Murray's cast (if there is one under that glove on his non-carrying hand) was not even remotely used to protect the ball running through the line of scrimmage.

Any former or current running backs reading this? Any football coaches? Anyone wish to weigh in about what is the running back's primary responsibility running through the line of scrimmage? Regardless if there is or isn't a hole for the running back to run through? Even if the back has an injured finger, hand, wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, etc.?

Loaf.

Of.

Bread.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Murray did take a lot of heat for that fumble, but I saw it differently. Peppers, the new HOF inductee, made a hell of a play.

And murray did not take care of the rock.

I love murray....but on that play he was careless. Sorry but it's a jackie smith play. It just is/

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Okay. Now I'm done revisiting that play. Murray's cast (if there is one under that glove on his non-carrying hand) was not even remotely used to protect the ball running through the line of scrimmage.

Any former or current running backs reading this? Any football coaches? Anyone wish to weigh in about what is the running back's primary responsibility running through the line of scrimmage? Regardless if there is or isn't a hole for the running back to run through? Even if the back has an injured finger, hand, wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, etc.?

Loaf.

Of.

Bread.

now post an emmitt protecting the rock. Wait I wanna do it!

Like this:

 

[DallasEast]

And murray did not take care of the rock.

I love murray....but on that play he was careless. Sorry but it's a jackie smith play. It just is/

I am critical of DeMarco Murray's fumble but it was not as bad as Jackie Smith's drop.

Murray's fumble occurred in a divisional game. He was a pretty good player.

Smith's drop happened in a Super Bowl. He was a Pro Football Hall of Fame caliber tight end.

Not the same in my book at least.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Murray had a better single season so its closer than you think

"single season"?

How many plays did we make murray block for?

and for how many seasons?

Murray was a good RB, and we should treat players like we treated him.

 

[DallasEast]

now post an emmitt protecting the rock. Wait I wanna do it!

Like this:

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I am critical of DeMarco Murray's fumble but it was not as bad as Jackie Smith's drop.

Murray's fumble occurred in a divisional game. He was a pretty good player.

Smith's drop happened in a Super Bowl. He was a Pro Football Hall of Fame caliber tight end.

Not the same in my book at least.

Murray was the BEST rb in that year. Jackie Smith was just another guy. A simple easy play to secure the ball.

Neither did it.

SAME PLAY.

Murray's play was so critical. He did not secure the easy TD. Run it in FREE AND CLEAR. He never expected a finger tip.

Subtract 7....add the 3...then pile on the td they scored next half.

The both just lost the game at different times.

 

[DallasEast]

Murray was the BEST rb in that year. Jackie Smith was just another guy. A simple easy play to secure the ball.

Neither did it.

SAME PLAY.

Murray's play was so critical. He did not secure the easy TD. Run it in FREE AND CLEAR. He never expected a finger tip.

Subtract 7....add the 3...then pile on the td they scored next half.

The both just lost the game at different times.

"Best rb in that year". That is 100% correct.

Me? I was pissed when Murray put the ball on the ground. For me, there was no shock involved. If any player will be victim of a critical turnover or not capitalize on a huge play, it will be a player with a limited distinction

"Jackie Smith was just another guy." My words will fail me so I will post this (link) instead:

Smith was one of the most reliable pass catchers in the game. He retired as the most prolific tight end in NFL history with a record 7,918 receiving yards, five straight Pro Bowls and 40 career touchdowns. He was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame after 15 seasons with the Cardinals and one Super Bowl season with the Dallas Cowboys. After his 1977 season in St. Louis, Smith retired; the next year, though, he was brought out of retirement by legendary Dallas Cowboys coach Tom Landry.​

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At 38, Smith became a key player for the Cowboys in their run to Super Bowl XIII against the equally titanic Pittsburgh Steelers. Although most of us remember Smith for the entirety of his career, there are some who know him only for the Super Bowl touchdown pass he didn’t catch. The surest hands in football wide open in the end zone, and he dropped the ball. The memorable video and call is replayed almost every year. “Bless his heart, he’s got to be the sickest man in America,” proclaimed announcer Verne Lundquist.​

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All of the above is just another example of two fans agreeing to disagree.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Rookie Zeke was incredible, and inarguably better than Murray.

Comparing Zeke from years 2-4 to Murray is a better comparison. They were both big, physical north-south power backs, but I would be tempted to take Murray just because of his top gear. Zeke was nearly unstuffable, and could wiggle 2 or 3 yards even out of blown-up plays. But he no longer had the speed to house the big runs.

 

[Sjoseph316]

Prime Zeke without question

 

[rags747]

In college back-to-back he had 1800 yard seasons regardless of whether they were all rushing or not I have to go back and look so stop with that he didn't do this or that he's number three all time Dallas cowboy running back that's underappreciated around here and that's all I'm saying but when you come out of college being the best running back and he was because he carried those nonsense 0 quarterbacks that they had at Ohio State go back and watch who was putting up 200 yard games in the college football playoffs.. It was zeke and who came in here as a rookie and put up 1600 yards which was almost Tony and emmett's rookie years put together it was top five all time rookie years I'm saying the man's five year stretch from college to 2019 in the NFL especially had he not been suspended gets overlooked on how great he actually was people are down on zeke and I'm tired of it he's underappreciated the man was great if he ended up on a better team he may have been appreciated a little bit better....

I mean the fans around here wanna discount what he did that's fine I'm sorry but his numbers put him up there with Terrell Davis he has better numbers than Terrell Davis and Terrell Davis was on a better team I'm just talking about career numbers he's underappreciated running backs are not supposed to last this long but if we're going Murray versus Eliot just simply everything points Elliott there's nothing that Murry did the Elliot wasn't at least a little better he was a not better at touchdowns total yards receiving yards receiving touchdowns everything...

Pick who you want I'm just making my debate and argument for my guy because this dude has been underappreciated around here and I get tired of hearing it it's like all the haters with Romo and Prescott somehow down the road when you have worse guys come in you'll appreciate them later and realize they put up dynamic numbers and leave the team out of it you know the records and the playoff losses just look at what they're doing as individuals you put them on the teams that Roger and Troy run they would have the same success in my opinion because this is a team....zekiel elliott was better than murray...

I’m not picking anyone as better. We have been slow to play new talent since forever. I was all for taking Elliott at #4 and I still feel that he can provide something today if he has some holes to run through. I’m just saying that Murray was a dam good back, we probably wasted his most productive years.