Mutually Parting Ways with Kellen Moore

[Haimerej]

yes you do find poorly coached teams make the playoffs. it takes all three phases of the game in the playoffs to get run and go deep.
there are teams that get to the playoffs depending on how the season played out, but they are not really contenders due to multiple factors, talent as well as coaching.
Garrett made the playoffs. few times. was he a good coach? or was the team poorly coached. we all saw the bone headed decisions he made right in front of our eyes and it had nothing to do with Dak.

secondly, was the right plan to execute? a bad plan never leads to good execution. so yes, I question that. it wasn't Moore's first time not having a good plan in place and not being able to address.

you want to exonerate Moore from all fault. your choice. but I hold him accountable as well.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify calling out the man who called plays for the 2nd most productive offense in the league since he started. The only guy to knock Reid and Mahomes out of #1 since he started. Cognitive dissonance is real.

 

[Haimerej]

I wonder if there's ever been an OC who has had the kind of success he's had yet the fans think he's "trash." Everybody loves Sean McVay. Here's his offensive rankings since entering the league-

2017- 10
2018- 2
2019- 7
2020- 11
2021- 9
2022- 32

People knock Kellen for having an above average offense with Dalton while others tout McVay as a genius, even though he just trotted out the worst offense in the league.

 

[Diehardblues]

I get your point and though it is a good one, there are a few more factors that affect a qb, coach, and team as a whole. One coach, one player doesn't always account for the lack of post/regular season success. I still say we win 11-12 games if we can stay relatively healthy. It's the playoffs that worry me.....but I won't start being worried until December.

Of course but Im not referring to just the results of the team but how our new play-caller and offense impact the effectiveness and production of our QB and offense .

 

[Diehardblues]

I wonder if there's ever been an OC who has had the kind of success he's had yet the fans think he's "trash." Everybody loves Sean McVay. Here's his offensive rankings since entering the league-

2017- 10
2018- 2
2019- 7
2020- 11
2021- 9
2022- 32

People knock Kellen for having an above average offense with Dalton while others tout McVay as a genius, even though he just trotted out the worst offense in the league.

Moore was being touted as a genius as well until we stumbled in the playoffs . Then we had a segment of fans which wanted to hold our play calling as more of the problem than our QB , talent and execution and or give credit to an Elite defense .

 

[Haimerej]

Moore was being touted as a genius as well until we stumbled in the playoffs . Then we had a segment of fans which wanted to hold our play calling as more of the problem than our QB , execution and or give credit to an Elite defense .

They buy what Jerry sells them.

 

[Diehardblues]

They buy what Jerry sells them.

Yep. Apparently this segment of fans do.

They also want to believe we don’t have any weaknesses on offense with talent or better defenses can stop us.

How many OC will we go thru before they propel our QB to perform at a higher level in the playoffs and against better defenses ?

 

[big dog cowboy]

2022- 32

People knock Kellen for having an above average offense with Dalton while others tout McVay as a genius, even though he just trotted out the worst offense in the league.

That is a huge distortion of the truth. They had so many guys hurt it would have been a surprise if they finished anywhere but last.

 

[Haimerej]

That is a huge distortion of the truth. They had so many guys hurt it would have been a surprise if they finished anywhere but last.

Perhaps you missed it, but I just had a guy ask if Kellen was so good, why did the offense rank 17th in points with Dalton.

 

[CCBoy]

You say they have the talent to make the scheme work, but all I've been seeing all off-season is how the talent sucked- o-line sucked, Zeke sucked, WRs were horrible outside of CD, etc.

Definitely from this fan...I've posted a ton on positive information. Myself, I'm a fan and will remain such.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify calling out the man who called plays for the 2nd most productive offense in the league since he started. The only guy to knock Reid and Mahomes out of #1 since he started. Cognitive dissonance is real.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify calling out the man who as the QB had the 2nd most productive offense in the league.

so according to you, all the credit goes to Moore. None to Dak....but Dak sucks. right?

 

[Zman5]

You expecting a steak when you get ground beef? As ridiculous as this assertion is, I'll indulge. Here's how Andy Dalton led offenses have ranked since 2017-

Yardage-

2017- 32nd
2018- 26th
2019- 26th
2020- 14th
2021- 24th
2022- 19th

Average- 23.5
Average without Kellen- 25.4

Points-

2017- 26th
2018- 17th
2019- 30th
2020- 17th
2021- 27th
2022- 22nd

Average- 23.16
Without Kellen- 24.4

Take note of which year was the most productive. Kellen took Dalton to the best production of his last 6 years in the league. Dalton ranked 10 spots higher in yards and 7 spots higher in points than his average with Kellen calling plays.

You are the one who made the ridiculous claim Moore was the reason the offense did so well and Dak had not much to do with the success

Back tracking already? LOL.

 

[GINeric]

He doesn't know anything but has had the 2nd most productive offense in the league since he took over. You must think this team is the most talented team in the league.

Man Kellen Moore is trash, period!

Hell Matt Stafford didn't win a playoff game until his 11th season in the NFL, then won a Superbowl ring the same year he led the league in interceptions.

Sometimes people succeed inspite of the weak link. Just ask Trent Dilpher.

With that said, there were many of our defensive opponents who publicly said they knew what we were running in certain situations just by the formation alone. Who designed these lame *** plays?? Yep... Kellen Moore.

Case close.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The measurable facts support KM's ability.

There is a wide consensus among analysts that support KM"s ability. PFF ranked him is second best in the entire NFL.

There's the fact that another good team swept up KM immediately.

and then there are some fans who think they know better. oh the homerism....

 

[Haimerej]

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify calling out the man who as the QB had the 2nd most productive offense in the league.

so according to you, all the credit goes to Moore. None to Dak....but Dak sucks. right?

This is the type of discourse that keeps you guys in your bubble.

 

[Haimerej]

You are the one who made the ridiculous claim Moore was the reason the offense did so well and Dak had not much to do with the success

Back tracking already? LOL.

Quote me.

 

[Haimerej]

Man Kellen Moore is trash, period!

Hell Matt Stafford didn't win a playoff game until his 11th season in the NFL, then won a Superbowl ring the same year he led the league in interceptions.

Sometimes people succeed inspite of the weak link. Just ask Trent Dilpher.

With that said, there were many of our defensive opponents who publicly said they knew what we were running in certain situations just by the formation alone. Who designed these lame *** plays?? Yep... Kellen Moore.

Case close.

You should watch more football. Defensive players say that every week from every team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This is the type of discourse that keeps you guys in your bubble.

That's a non answer if I have ever seen one.

It was the same statement you made. Except change Moore for dak. You blew a fuse!!!

Dak sucks. Moore is great so much that he took a sucky QB to #1 offense in the league. I mean move over bilicheck. Your replacement is here.

 

[Haimerej]

That's a non answer if I have ever seen one.

It was the same statement you made. Except change Moore for dak. You blew a fuse!!!

Dak sucks. Moore is great so much that he took a sucky QB to #1 offense in the league. I mean move over bilicheck. Your replacement is here.

You're boring.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You're boring.

Yeah. Sure. You got stumped by your own logic.

 

[G2]

Not many teams in the postseason making awful adjustments. Both teams do it, which is why the spotlight is on the players.

The fact that they attempted Elliott at Center, not to mention the timing is all we need for reference. If Moore wasn't inept he may have gotten a promotion.