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Yep, the "I wAnna be Brett Favre" syndrome isn't cutting it anymore. He doesn't have the talent or brains of Favre: problem is he thinks he does. We'll see how much he is reigned in this week: probably A LOT. Forget the balanced attack. Run, Run and Run again now. If MB3 is hurt we can still run Choice and Felix. Can't trust Turnover Tony anymore
 

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Yakuza Rich;2958119 said:
I think this team is far more mentally soft than they are physically soft.

My thoughts on Romo are like dealing with the friend who is a drug addict that constantly relapses. After awhile you don't want to stop being their friend and you don't want to stop rooting for them to get better, but you are just at the point where you refuse to believe a word they say until they prove you beyond a shadow of a doubt otherwise.

I refuse to believe Romo will stop making careless decisions (and that's what it's about, not about a misread or a great play that's understandable, but careless decisions) until he proves me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.

YAKUZA

That is a perfect analogy Yakuza. I also agree with your assessment on Garrett's play calling last night.
 

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you can count the number of games lost by a team that runs for 250 yards on one hand
 

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I agree with most of this post. I don't think anyone can legitimately criticize Garrett when we managed to put up 31 points despite Romo's screw-ups.

I'm also very disappointed in the defense so far. Were Ellis and Canty more important to us than we were led to believe? I was one who was not sorry to see Ellis go, but I was concerned about losing Canty.
 

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You're right. Your post is meaningless. It's NFL football. Your hot one day and cold the next. Happens to every QB or player I've ever seen. You must minimze the chance for mistakes and manage the game when you are ahead; Cowboy coaches could help here and they didn't. The Cowboys had a circus atmosphere in years past. Not now. Be patient.
 

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Mr Cowboy;2958116 said:
Again, as bad as Romo played last night, he led the team to 31 points and the lead with 2 minutes to go.

Not absolving Romo, he played very badly, but he still put this team in position to win.

He also put his team behind the eight-ball with his miscues and overall erratic play. Sorry, I don't give someone credit for being resilient after their mistakes.
 

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fanfromvirginia;2958088 said:
Good post, well argued. I agree with most of this except giving up on Romo. For the first time, I'm down on the guy but still not ready to throw in the towel.

This team is soft, though. My gawd, they're soft.
Agreed, this team simply has to stop turn the ball over time and time again, especially Romo, although Jones fumble was bad.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2958436 said:
Great post!

We are in trouble.

We aren't in any more trouble today than we were last year.

We are in exactly the same situation were in last season. Minus one loudmouth WR. Otherwise, continuity reigns supreme. Same QB mistakes. Same heartless defense.
 

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BALCO;2958373 said:
Cutler is as streaky as Romo and much more of a headcase. Did you see the Broncos collapse last year. No thanks.

Romo will win you more games than he loses...that is proven. Maybe not at the right times, but I don't think you jump ship after 2 1/2 years. Remember what everyone was saying about Eli his first few years...they wanted his butt out of there?

Drafting a QB is a crapshoot...you hit gold or you don't. Both Tebow and McCoy give you a better chance to win than Romo right now? Not in a million years.

Cutler's defense the past 2 years in Denver was horrendous. Put it this way, if last year's Denver team played defensively like we did against the G-Men last night, that would be Denver's best defensive performance of the year. So you get a QB who was always playing catchup. And I don't buy that Cutler has an attitude. The new coach in Denver was a moron (he wanted Matt freaking Cassel for pete's sake) and completely handled the situation wrong and basically told Cutler there was no guarantee he wouldn't do it again. Sorry, but if anybody here was in Cutler's situation we would've wanted out as well. But, because the Denver ownership doesn't want to make their new head coach look bad, they place the blame on Cutler. So if Dallas can get a talent like Cutler in a reasonable trade, I'd take it without losing any sleep over it.

And yes, drafting a QB is tough to do (it's not exactly a crapshoot). But I look at it like we have given Romo more than enough chances and we know what he is, a reckless QB who loses too many games for the team and it really shows up come up December. I'd rather get a young QB in here and get him going while the supporting cast is pretty good.

Finally, I think a huge part of the problem is that there's just no recourse for Romo when he is reckless and careless with the ball. Wanna know why he has that 'oh well' attitude? Because he's in an 'oh well' situation. Cost the multiple games in the season...oh well, I'm still the starter because they wouldn't dare bench me and look elsewhere. I say if he starts putting another game like last night again, and I'm guessing it will be against the Falcons in week 7, bench him. See what Kitna can do. If Kitna can't do anything, then maybe there's more issues than Romo. But if Kitna plays well, then we know right where the blame belongs.

I look at the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys to be a fantastic gig, even by NFL standards. So if a benching and the threat of losing that gig can't motivate Romo to stop being reckless, then nothing will and we need to move on and dump him while he still has good trade value.





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Yakuza Rich;2958119 said:
I think this team is far more mentally soft than they are physically soft.

My thoughts on Romo are like dealing with the friend who is a drug addict that constantly relapses. After awhile you don't want to stop being their friend and you don't want to stop rooting for them to get better, but you are just at the point where you refuse to believe a word they say until they prove you beyond a shadow of a doubt otherwise.

I refuse to believe Romo will stop making careless decisions (and that's what it's about, not about a misread or a great play that's understandable, but careless decisions) until he proves me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.






YAKUZA
good post
 

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Yakuza Rich;2958206 said:
I agree. Although you never know if a Cutler like situation comes around. And yes, I know Cutler threw 4 picks against the Packers, but his WR's are much worse than Dallas' and were not on the same page, which is understandable in their first game together. He then played the Steelers defense in some bad rain and played quite well (and didn't turn the ball over).

But I look at guys like Ratliff, Ware, Bradie, Sensabaugh, Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Witten, Martellus, Felix, etc. etc. All somewhat young guys heading into their prime or in their prime. If we can find a replacement now and trade Romo (and we should get exceptional value for him), we can get a Colt McCoy or a Tim Tebow and start looking towards the future. We have the talent to protect them in the first year, much like the Falcons did with Matt Ryan, the Ravens did with Flacco, the Steelers did with Big Ben and the Jets are doing now with Sanchez. By a year or two, those guys I mentioned will still have plenty of gas in the tank and the QB we drafted should just get better and better.

Do we really believe the Jets have more talent? I sure don't.





YAKUZA

It's really hard to agree with this--because of the implications--but I do anyways. It's so frustrating to see Romo's ups and downs, and they happen so frequently that I too believe that is what the rest of his career will be like. Some great great games followed by horrible piece of crap games.

It might prove to be a very wise move, getting rid of Romo, but I know there's no way in hell it's gonna happen.
 

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I got pounder at the beginning of last year when I suggested a straight-up trade: Romo for Jason Campbell. Campbell is far more like the QB Garrett understudied (tall, strong-armed, pocket-passer) than the gunslinger-like Romo. And I think Tony is more suited for the WCO that Zorn likes to run because of Tony's mobility.

All-in-all, an excellent post Yakuza...
 

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My thoughts on Romo are like dealing with the friend who is a drug addict that constantly relapses.

The thing is that Romo is probably going to have quite a few more Tampa Bay- like performances thoughout the season (most probably against weaker defenses), and overall he'll probably even crawl back to the top 5 in the league statistically again. The sad thing is I now think his great performances just sets himself up for continual regression (or "relapses" as you put it) when there hits a combination of his confidence being high again and his facing a defense that actually knows how to play him.

In the playoffs you likely have to beat 3+ good teams/defenses in a row to advance all the way. I still think Tony is a very talented QB, and I think Tony can/will eventually win a playoff game, but 3 or 4 in row? I'm now skeptical he'll ever be able to string together that many mistake free performances in a row, unless he "gets" it at some point and learns when he can be a gunslinger and when he needs to be a bus driver.
 

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lonestar6;2959134 said:
The thing is that Romo is probably going to have quite a few more Tampa Bay- like performances thoughout the season (most probably against weaker defenses), and overall he'll probably even crawl back to the top 5 in the league statistically again. The sad thing is I now think his great performances just sets himself up for continual regression (or "relapses" as you put it) when there hits a combination of his confidence being high again and his facing a defense that actually knows how to play him.

In the playoffs you likely have to beat 3+ good teams/defenses in a row to advance all the way. I still think Tony is a very talented QB, and I think Tony can/will eventually win a playoff game, but 3 or 4 in row? I'm now skeptical he'll ever be able to string together that many mistake free performances in a row, unless he "gets" it at some point and learns when he can be a gunslinger and when he needs to be a bus driver.

For us to be successful in the playoffs (if we even get there), he will likely have to have two-three games of nearly mistake-free football. I don't think he's had a single stretch like that in his career save his first few starts in 2006. It would require some quick mental maturation, much like what Manning went through two years ago.

I don't think Garrett or especially Phillips is going to get out the choke chain any time soon. It will have to wait until 2010 and whomever is in charge then.
 

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At this point I'm far more concerned about the defense than I am Romo.

No turnovers since the Baltimore game last year.

Over 800 yds in total offense given up the first two weeks.

Yeah, mistake free quaterbacking is an important part of a playoff-success soup, but what about a defense that can actually stop someone or force a turnover? And when your head coach is suppose to be some kind of defense guru and it still looks as bad as what this defense does-- that just makes my head hurt.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2959209 said:
At this point I'm far more concerned about the defense than I am Romo.

No turnovers since the Baltimore game last year.

Over 800 yds in total offense given up the first two weeks.

Yeah, mistake free quaterbacking is an important part of a playoff-success soup, but what about a defense that can actually stop someone or force a turnover? And when your head coach is suppose to be some kind of defense guru and it still looks as bad as what this defense does-- that just makes my head hurt.

I have to agree with you about the D, Michael. I posted last night that Campo should be fired today because the secondary is pathetic. The thing I most resent about the Parcells tenure was his installation of the 3-4. We had a pretty good D under Mike Zimmer's 4-3. I wish we'd never changed...
 

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Alexander;2959155 said:
For us to be successful in the playoffs (if we even get there), he will likely have to have two-three games of nearly mistake-free football. I don't think he's had a single stretch like that in his career save his first few starts in 2006. It would require some quick mental maturation, much like what Manning went through two years ago.

I don't think Garrett or especially Phillips is going to get out the choke chain any time soon. It will have to wait until 2010 and whomever is in charge then.

If i get some time this week I'll do some digging on Romo's mistakes. That is an interesting angle. Just from memory right now it seems Romo's turnovers come in bunches. right now thinking back to that playoff game with Seattle, Parcells probably knew what he was doing by not really challenging Seattle through the air like we all thought he should against that injury riddled secondary.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2959209 said:
At this point I'm far more concerned about the defense than I am Romo.

No turnovers since the Baltimore game last year.

Over 800 yds in total offense given up the first two weeks.

Yeah, mistake free quaterbacking is an important part of a playoff-success soup, but what about a defense that can actually stop someone or force a turnover? And when your head coach is suppose to be some kind of defense guru and it still looks as bad as what this defense does-- that just makes my head hurt.

Again...

Steve Smith and Mario Manningham had superstar nights. I haven't seen receivers run that wide open on the Cowboys defense in a long time...and that's saying something.

I don't care how many points the Giants didn't score in the redzone, they kept the ball for way too long, the receivers were open all night, and the tackling was just horrible.

Tony made mental errors and he took the blame, but somehow, someway this team that looks like JV most of the night was in position to hold Eli and company and win the game.

Great job by our three headed trio of RB's. They were the reason this team was in contention most of the night.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2958119 said:
I think this team is far more mentally soft than they are physically soft.

My thoughts on Romo are like dealing with the friend who is a drug addict that constantly relapses. After awhile you don't want to stop being their friend and you don't want to stop rooting for them to get better, but you are just at the point where you refuse to believe a word they say until they prove you beyond a shadow of a doubt otherwise.

I refuse to believe Romo will stop making careless decisions (and that's what it's about, not about a misread or a great play that's understandable, but careless decisions) until he proves me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.





YAKUZA

Spot on.Thank u. I am blunt in my words.Its like having faith in a lover and she keeps cheating or something.
 
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