My Mock: Version 4.0, Post Combine

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I like this Mock but would skip the trade and insert a top wideout or OL in the Rd1b.

Nice though.
 

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If we are lucky...Chris Johnson = Willie Parker....but then again, J Charles could be that too. That is IF we are lucky. CJ is very versatile and---assuming he is the real deal (always a big assuption for 100% of us)--then he would pair nicely with MB3.
 

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BigWillie;1975649 said:
Care to show me a clip where it doesn't show him simply outrunning people? I'm talking about those clips where he earns the tough yards on the 5-6 yard gains. The clips I have seen show him wanting to be an east-west runner, bouncing runs to the outside to use his speed to simply outrun people.

But if you have the clips I requested, I would be glad to see them.



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When a guy is a blazer, the clips usually show him blazing....the differnce is instead of 5-6 yards, this guy takes it to the house.:cool:

I would not pick him in round 1, but late in 2 maybe...and rd 3 for sure.

Here is a clip you may have seen...but maybe you missed some of the shorter gains at around the 1:50 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUhLtAC_Ok
 

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I like this Mock but would skip the trade and insert a top wideout or OL in the Rd1b.

O-line?
You want to use one of our 1st rounders on an O-lineman?
 

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ThatsmyQB;1977075 said:
I think you should switch your round ratings just a tad!
I'd put Desean Jackson on our radar since he's be a WOW player for our offense like Jerry said he'd want.
Adarius Bowman I think no way gets picked in the 1st 2 rounds, not that fast and showed horrific hands in senior bowl week.
Jammal Charles ran a damn good 40 time at the combines and will not last past round 2, he's a definate 2nd rounder, early to mid IMO, Nelson I think could be drafted in round 2 if not definately round 3, I don't think he has any chance of making it to round 4.
you don't have to change anything, I just feel those players are valued a little late is all, and cause you say you'd be happy with Cromartie, Johnson, and Nelson, which would leave me to believe you'd be happy with Nelson as our 2nd round pick, so that's why I suggest you move his rating to a round 2-3 range and not 3-4, don't take this the wrong way, just trying to give oyu my opinion and take it as you wish!
But I think you're dead on with the players you have in your sig that are on our radar!
If we just get DRC in round 1 I'd be happy no matter who else we picked!
Nelson in round 3 Id' be ecstatic!
I'm hoping for a DREAM LIST it would be
Round 1 DRC
Round 1b: Kenny Phillips (He could fall)
2: R.B. Jamaal Charles
3: W.R. Jordy Nelson
That woudl be ideal, not that we needed Phillips, but if we could get DRC and Phillips fell, the value would be so insane we'd have to take him.

I am not crazy about Jamaal Charles. I personally believe that someone who has even just one semester of college, should at the very least have a reasonable command of the english language.
 

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ndanger;1979010 said:
I personally believe that someone who has even just one semester of college, should at the very least have a reasonable command of the english language.

LOL, have you SEEN I mean HEARD Emmitt Smith talk?
Lets not forget Shannon Sharpe, he sounds like the guy from fat albert, aba deeba dooba lika demma colts to winn daa bahgame did weeekend!
Not only can they not speak proper english, they BUTCHER IT, and they had 4 years of college, well Emmittt was a Junior I believe, but you get my point, funny thing is, maybe Jamaal Charles can get a broadcasting job since I don't know how on God's earth anyone ever gave Shannon Sharpe or emmitt a job SPEAKING! :lmao2:

Oh, and you should here Emmitt when he's not on T.V., he speaks ebonics and has a big potty mouth on top of it!
And those are TWO hall of fame players who could be the best ever at their respective positions, so I wouldn't hold how they talk against them as player.
 

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Probably not...now that Flo is locked in. I do look at value more than just position, but I hear you. Ideally, I can see CB, WR, and RB...then maybe OL. But again, it depends on value.
 

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Hostile;1972178 said:
Well, I've digested what I could from the Combine. I guess that means taking another look at a Mock. I'm going to change this one up quite a bit. Even going to speculate on a trade out of round 1 at the 28 spot. As always I try and provide my previous Mocks for comparison.

Version 1.0
Version 2.0
Version 3.0

Also as always, your comments, good and bad are welcome. Okay, let's talk Draft.

1a. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State, 6'1", 184. Being from a small college could drop him down a bit, but his workouts this week opened eyes. Count on that. For good reason, this kid can flat out play. I'm giving up my insistence on Antoine Cason and believe me that isn't easy. I still think he's the most complete CB in this Draft.

1b. I'm projecting that the Atlanta Falcons will want to get back into the 1st round to take a QB and will trade us their 2nd round pick and their 4th round pick for Pick #28.

2a. Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina, 5'11", 195. McFadden, Mendenhall, & Stewart are the 1st round backs, leaving us to grab this speed demon at the top of the 2nd round.

2b. Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry, 6'5", 321. We can't run the risk of no grabbing this guy. and he is not going to last to the end of round 3. He is big, nasty, and if we lose Flozell to Free Agency and BIGG goes to LT he probably is an immediate starter. Quite possibly my favorite sleeper of the last 5 years.

3. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State, 6'3", 215. This is the kind of player that can fly under the radar for all the wrong reasons. The kind that when you add them to your team make a huge difference. He is a chains mover and has absolutely great hands.

4a. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia, 6'2" 247. Come on, you knew I was not going to give up on my favorite player in this draft. If we land Randy Moss in Free Agency we may never run the ball at all, but I am proceeding on the belief that we will.

4b. Justin King, CB, Penn State, 6'1", 186.
You can never have enough depth at CB and for some reason Justin has fallen to the 4th and 5th rounds. Good value at this point.

5. Curtis Johnson, OLB, Clark Atlanta, 6'3", 239. I really love this kid. He has a non stop motor and plays football with passion and a bit of anger. He is great depth and good value at this point.

6. Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii, 6'2", 185. I think he's going to drop. He's definitely a gamble because he played in an unconventional offense and does not have the standard QB check marks. However, he's worth the gamble and could be groomed to be a good backup. Besides with a name like Colt where else can he go?

7. Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona, 6'2", 243.
Why have I dropped him this far? He ran a 4.9 in the 40. I still think he is a bigger version of Zach Thomas and will always be around the ball and he will make his mark on Special Teams.

Well, there you go. I brought back a player I had previously and kept a couple of my favorites but I changed this version up a lot more than previous versions. Have fun.


The only thing I dont like is the lack of bigtime WR prospects out of this draft. I like Nelson a lot, but I wouldn't want to pin all my hopes on him.

I love the first two picks, but I think we waste the second if we dont go WR there. But, then again, I am not familiar with the guard you have us taking so you could be on to something there, I just dont see it as a big need position. I probably over value Free and Marten though.

But if we got King in the 4th, this would be by far the greatest draft day haul in recent memory. If we come away from the draft with DRC and King, I will be as giddy as a schoolgirl. It would go down as my favorite draft in history.
 

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BigWillie;1976590 said:
Saw the clips and that is what I am basing it of off. The clips show NOTHING about him running between the tackles, but simply how he can outrun people in the open field.

As I said, I want to see those 5-6 yard gains where he earns the tough yards. I already know he can outrun people. I want him to show me he is a complete back which gives him reason to be drafted this high.

One-dimensional backs earlier in the draft are not high up on my priority list and they should not be on yours either.

The common theme we get from Chris Johnson is the "OH HE SO FAST" that goes around one player every year. Unfortunately, it is Chris Johnson we have to hear about this year.

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If we are lucky. Chris Johnson = Wille Parker. They look similar to me, but we NEVER really know until a draft pick gets into the league.

I saw something else interesting: A post highlight Tony Dorsett's running style. Now I would NEVER say that a kid in college could compare to TD, and I'm not here. But thier running styles DO look similar. Take a look sometime and see. They hit the hole very fast (so not much hole needed) then are going so fast that a cutback is alsmost enough to take it to the house.

Again, I'm only comparing basics, not reality because that is unknown.
 
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