My prediction this day

[Star Guard_31]

I think it's more likely that Sam Bradford ends up in a Cowboys uniform next year.

 

[BHendri5]

he will not cost as much as people think he will. As far as court, please I have seen the pictures of his son, he said he may have went over board. Trust me, people do not know what a beating is if they called that beating his kid or abusing his kid. I grew up with kids that literally got beat by their parents, no belt no extension cord, not dog leash, no paddle or a switch, all fist.
I got whippings with a switch and I was told to go and get the switch, and when I came back with a small one, nah wrong thing to do. Dog leash, paddle, wooden spoon and a belt. It helped me grow into the man that I am. I whipped my kids just like my mother and my grandfather whipped me, I have great kids. from 18 months up until they were 6/7 with a belt or a switch or a wooden spoon or my hand, once they hit 6/7 all I had to do is have a certain tone in my voice or a certain look on my face and my kids knew DAD means business. The Bible states if you spare the rod you spoil the child, so they used a rod way back then which is just like a switch both are wood.

My mother is a preschool teacher, every time I talk to her she is telling how bad the kids are they all come from my old neighborhood, because their parents do not whip them, these kids are as young as 3 yrs old and they talk like they are grown people with the profanity and the things they do, fighting the other kids disrespectful to adults and teachers, I say put the belt switch whatever on that kid, because when they become teenagers or adults the justice system will then be claiming that they lacked that discipline or lack of whippings while they are closing the iron doors on them. So it pisses me off how all these righteous people are all up in arms about how a parent is disciplining HIS CHILD!

I coach, and this past summer two single mothers called me all summer to help them deal with their spoiled undiscipline sons, lack of whippings, they called me all I could do is talk with the guys but that was more than what their fathers did, those 2 young men I helped them get into college they are freshman this season, we will see how things turn out.

Anyway, back to the originall subject I'm not saying we will get rid of Murray, but I am prediccting AP will play here and we will have Murray here as well.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Eddie George comes to mind.

Forgot about that!

 

[noshame]

he will not cost as much as people think he will. As far as court, please I have seen the pictures of his son, he said he may have went over board. Trust me, people do not know what a beating is if they called that beating his kid or abusing his kid. I grew up with kids that literally got beat by their parents, no belt no extension cord, not dog leash, no paddle or a switch, all fist.
I got whippings with a switch and I was told to go and get the switch, and when I came back with a small one, nah wrong thing to do. Dog leash, paddle, wooden spoon and a belt. It helped me grow into the man that I am. I whipped my kids just like my mother and my grandfather whipped me, I have great kids. from 18 months up until they were 6/7 with a belt or a switch or a wooden spoon or my hand, once they hit 6/7 all I had to do is have a certain tone in my voice or a certain look on my face and my kids knew DAD means business. The Bible states if you spare the rod you spoil the child, so they used a rod way back then which is just like a switch both are wood.

My mother is a preschool teacher, every time I talk to her she is telling how bad the kids are they all come from my old neighborhood, because their parents do not whip them, these kids are as young as 3 yrs old and they talk like they are grown people with the profanity and the things they do, fighting the other kids disrespectful to adults and teachers, I say put the belt switch whatever on that kid, because when they become teenagers or adults the justice system will then be claiming that they lacked that discipline or lack of whippings while they are closing the iron doors on them. So it pisses me off how all these righteous people are all up in arms about how a parent is disciplining HIS CHILD!

I coach, and this past summer two single mothers called me all summer to help them deal with their spoiled undiscipline sons, lack of whippings, they called me all I could do is talk with the guys but that was more than what their fathers did, those 2 young men I helped them get into college they are freshman this season, we will see how things turn out.

Anyway, back to the originall subject I'm not saying we will get rid of Murray, but I am prediccting AP will play here and we will have Murray here as well.

What? No whippings? How did that work?

 

[visionary]

I doubt anyone is going to do the Vikings a favor and trade for that contract and scrutiny. Knowing he'll be cut if they are trying to shop him and don't find a suitor, I just can't see any team wanting to be "that team" who's chomping at the bit to bring a guy in who's being let go because his actions were unacceptable.

If not a Viking I would imagine any team interested would wait cause they know they can, but also so they can pretend like they did their homework, met with the guy, and saw a "good person".

You are unfortunately trying to apply common sense to a process that has none, namely decisions by cowboys front office

The Roy Williams (WR) debacle comes to mind

 

[DallasEast]

Ok. Be sure to bump this thread next August.

I predict he will create a new thread next August, instead of violating forum rule number 12.

 

[visionary]

he will not cost as much as people think he will. As far as court, please I have seen the pictures of his son, he said he may have went over board. Trust me, people do not know what a beating is if they called that beating his kid or abusing his kid. I grew up with kids that literally got beat by their parents, no belt no extension cord, not dog leash, no paddle or a switch, all fist.
I got whippings with a switch and I was told to go and get the switch, and when I came back with a small one, nah wrong thing to do. Dog leash, paddle, wooden spoon and a belt. It helped me grow into the man that I am. I whipped my kids just like my mother and my grandfather whipped me, I have great kids. from 18 months up until they were 6/7 with a belt or a switch or a wooden spoon or my hand, once they hit 6/7 all I had to do is have a certain tone in my voice or a certain look on my face and my kids knew DAD means business. The Bible states if you spare the rod you spoil the child, so they used a rod way back then which is just like a switch both are wood.

My mother is a preschool teacher, every time I talk to her she is telling how bad the kids are they all come from my old neighborhood, because their parents do not whip them, these kids are as young as 3 yrs old and they talk like they are grown people with the profanity and the things they do, fighting the other kids disrespectful to adults and teachers, I say put the belt switch whatever on that kid, because when they become teenagers or adults the justice system will then be claiming that they lacked that discipline or lack of whippings while they are closing the iron doors on them. So it pisses me off how all these righteous people are all up in arms about how a parent is disciplining HIS CHILD!

I coach, and this past summer two single mothers called me all summer to help them deal with their spoiled undiscipline sons, lack of whippings, they called me all I could do is talk with the guys but that was more than what their fathers did, those 2 young men I helped them get into college they are freshman this season, we will see how things turn out.

Anyway, back to the originall subject I'm not saying we will get rid of Murray, but I am prediccting AP will play here and we will have Murray here as well.

After reading your post, I would recommend educating yourself in how to deal with kids and subordinates

 

[AsthmaField]

After reading your post, I would recommend educating yourself in how to deal with kids and subordinates

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but that is the way a lot of people on this forum were raised, including myself to a certain degree. The spankings/switchings were pretty bad, but as the child you quickly learn to not do what resulted in the spankings. You very quickly become a well behaved child.

As for my children, I only had to spank them one time each and I never had to do it again. I didn't use a switch or even a belt, i just spanked their behinds with my hand, but I made sure they felt it. After that, they did what I said every time I said it. To be fair though, I have two girls, so they were easier than boys to discipline.

I'm not sure that I could have made myself use a switch on them though. It would have been overkill IMO... and my wife probably would have beat me with a switch if I would have. I certainly wouldn't have considered it child abuse though, and I understand some people doing it because it was done to me and my parents clearly loved and cared for me.

I don't know... this is a subject that I've just been staying away from. I understand both sides of it. One thing I do know, I don't think using a switch in a normal manner is child abuse. IMO you can use a switch/belt/hand and it not be abuse... and you can certainly abuse a child with a switch/belt/hand. It is the person wielding it that determines if it is abuse... not what they use.

 

[fifaguy]

No offense, but what is the obsession with AP?

 

[John813]

No offense, but what is the obsession with AP?

Could be that he still is the #1 back in the league, a superb athlete and could very well be a generational player at RB. That being said, RB isn't as highly valued as before, he's hitting 30, and there's no guarantee he would keep up the pace 1-2 years down the road.

I don't think Jerry &Co. are salivating at acquiring Peterson. I think he may be an option if they can't come to an agreement with Murray and decide to use the draft picks on other positions next year.

If they lose Murray, and if they don't draft a RB, and Peterson comes here on a cheaper, short, contract I wouldn't be opposed. That being said, I'me happy with the status quo at RB.

 

[jazzcat22]

Could be that he still is the #1 back in the league, a superb athlete and could very well be a generational player at RB. That being said, RB isn't as highly valued as before, he's hitting 30, and there's no guarantee he would keep up the pace 1-2 years down the road.

I don't think Jerry &Co. are salivating at acquiring Peterson. I think he may be an option if they can't come to an agreement with Murray and decide to use the draft picks on other positions next year.

If they lose Murray, and if they don't draft a RB, and Peterson comes here on a cheaper, short, contract I wouldn't be opposed. That being said, I'me happy with the status quo at RB.

Never thought of it that way, but agree. I would not want him as a long term options. Defeinately do not want to overpay obviously. But if a year or two, might not be all that bad at a cap friendly figure. Written along the lines like Melton and others. Can be released without cap issues.

 

[visionary]

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but that is the way a lot of people on this forum were raised, including myself to a certain degree. The spankings/switchings were pretty bad, but as the child you quickly learn to not do what resulted in the spankings. You very quickly become a well behaved child.

As for my children, I only had to spank them one time each and I never had to do it again. I didn't use a switch or even a belt, i just spanked their behinds with my hand, but I made sure they felt it. After that, they did what I said every time I said it. To be fair though, I have two girls, so they were easier than boys to discipline.

I'm not sure that I could have made myself use a switch on them though. It would have been overkill IMO... and my wife probably would have beat me with a switch if I would have. I certainly wouldn't have considered it child abuse though, and I understand some people doing it because it was done to me and my parents clearly loved and cared for me.

I don't know... this is a subject that I've just been staying away from. I understand both sides of it. One thing I do know, I don't think using a switch in a normal manner is child abuse. IMO you can use a switch/belt/hand and it not be abuse... and you can certainly abuse a child with a switch/belt/hand. It is the person wielding it that determines if it is abuse... not what they use.

I appreciate your perspective

IMO Just because we were raised a certain way is no reason to continue to do things the way they were done 20 or 30 or 40 years back.

Racial discrimination, child abuse, spousal abuse, are just some of the MANY things we have a different perspective on now than back then

The opinions espoused by the poster I quoted are especially troubling when they come from teachers or coaches

In my experience, most people who beat kids are ones that are not willing to spend the appropriate time with them and are unwilling to engage them in a manner that will produce much more meaningful and lasting results. To me, beating kids or spousal abuse etc tells me more about the nature of the abuser than anything about the child or the abused

Just my .02

 

[AsthmaField]

I appreciate your perspective

IMO Just because we were raised a certain way is no reason to continue to do things the way they were done 20 or 30 or 40 years back.

Racial discrimination, child abuse, spousal abuse, are just some of the MANY things we have a different perspective on now than back then

The opinions espoused by the poster I quoted are especially troubling when they come from teachers or coaches

In my experience, most people who beat kids are ones that are not willing to spend the appropriate time with them and are unwilling to engage them in a manner that will produce much more meaningful and lasting results. To me, beating kids or spousal abuse etc tells me more about the nature of the abuser than anything about the child or the abused

Just my .02

Yeah, I understand that and you make good points.

Like I said, I am somewhere in the middle of this argument and I see points on both sides that I agree with. I do know that when given the chance to use a switch on my own children, the thought never occurred to me to get a switch. I just spanked with my hand and they felt it plenty. A switch would have been big time overkill for me and they couldn't have minded what I said any more than they already did. If I said hop on one foot, they hopped on one foot.

I do understand that going to pick out the switch was a big part of the punishment, and like I said, it happened to me several times (so did paddlings at school)... it was just never necessary for me as a parent and would have certainly seemed excessive.

I do not like to see the kids who are clearly not disciplined at all these days... the one's who run rampant at Wal-Mart and their parents just let them scream and run around the store while they just shop like it isn't even happening. That is clearly a case of no discipline at all and that probably draws my ire more than most things we're talking about. My father would have yanked a knot in my *** if that would have been me... but I never would have done that to begin with because I would have known it would result in serious consequences for me.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Sept. 17, 2014 I am predicting that Adrian Peterson will be wear the star next season. I do not believe he will play another down for the vikings. He made the call to Jerry this past offseason. The vikings will be trying to move him this offseason and I am willing to bet he will point his agent toward the Cowboys and tell him to make it happen he wants to come home.

That is my prediction.

Wrong. Dude has a "whipping room".

He is DONE! < - - - now, THAT is an accurate prediction.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Sept. 17, 2014 I am predicting that Adrian Peterson will be wear the star next season. I do not believe he will play another down for the vikings. He made the call to Jerry this past offseason. The vikings will be trying to move him this offseason and I am willing to bet he will point his agent toward the Cowboys and tell him to make it happen he wants to come home.

That is my prediction.

Nah Stephen is on record as saying this team is done bringing in old vets. Spend his money on Murray and the defense.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Sept. 17, 2014 I am predicting that Adrian Peterson will be wear the star next season. I do not believe he will play another down for the vikings. He made the call to Jerry this past offseason. The vikings will be trying to move him this offseason and I am willing to bet he will point his agent toward the Cowboys and tell him to make it happen he wants to come home.

That is my prediction.

My prediction is that even Jerra will see the folly of bringing this child abuser here with a monstrous contract to replace a younger and emerging Murray. I further preduct that Jerra will check his billfold and find IOUs to Romo and say, whaaaaa?

Too many downsides to AP, aka child abuser, and we half not seen what Murray will do this year behind this potentially great O line.
My advise is to predict less and drink more mead or its beer cousins.

 

[Flinger]

Hey - heard right here on CZ that we don't need Murray. So, why the heck would we need AP?

RB's that lead the league in rushing are a dime a dozen and it's a passing league, haven't you heard?

After all, there's only so many balls to go around. And, where the heck have our no. 2 TE and no. 2 WR been? Beasley? What a joke.

We don't need no stinkin' runnin' game.

Heard it. Right here.

 

[Wayne02]

After reading your post, I would recommend educating yourself in how to deal with kids and subordinates

Why do people like you constantly bring up "education" when you don't agree with someone else? It's the worst form of argumentation.

 

[Craig]

I understand hitting a kid sometimes, and i understand going too far one time if thats actually what happened with AP. These people talking about closed fists and stuff like that...its not a matter of education, you just shouldnt be allowed near children ever.

 

[Joe Realist]

Sept. 17, 2014 I am predicting that Adrian Peterson will be wear the star next season. I do not believe he will play another down for the vikings. He made the call to Jerry this past offseason. The vikings will be trying to move him this offseason and I am willing to bet he will point his agent toward the Cowboys and tell him to make it happen he wants to come home.

That is my prediction.

On September 19, 2014 I am predicting you are wrong...