My take on Drew Henson. Why the hell not, right?

[Juke99]

Most definitely

On the nosey, fellow Arthian....

Bring it on Sorgites!

 

[Arch Stanton]

Funny what I remember was through TC and the first two preseason games last year Parcells was asked in every PC, if he was going to cut the struggling Romo to bring in a vet QB.

Darn, I must have just imagined that 'cause Romo was just lighting it up last year.

Darn, if that ain't some funny s......

 

[Jarv]

No sir. Romo looked better than Henson last year. And he didn't look lost. He still had that "moxie" that he's shown why Bill used that word.

Don't forget, Romo didn't start playing football until his Jr. year in High School. That's another reason he went to a small school. But he has never looked lost behing center.



My agenda is an abundance of wins for the Dallas Cowboys. The depth chart at QB is key to that agenda. At this point, it's pretty clear that Romo is the glimmer in Bill's eye ... Bledsoe is the twinkle ... Henson is an eye booger.

Henson has been playing better since the beginnings of training camp.

Sorry you can't see it "with your own eyes"...But, maybe if you could read you would have seen the articles saying he has been improving.

But hey kid, thump your mighty chest and say your hate statements.

Like it was said earlier, some people want to say "I told you so" more than care about the developement of this team...You sonny boy are one of those.

From what I have seen with my eyes is that I would be starting Romo or Henson over Bledsoe right now. He's the one that has the deer in the headlights look. But he has experience which BP seems to desire at QB more than anything (see Vinny).

Spew your hate, because you can in this country thank god. I just totally disagree with your statements, which is my right and I have expressed my thoughts on your opinion.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

It still pisses me off that Carter screwed up in what was his payoff year.

Romo and Henson are both getting the benefit of learning everything about the offense before they ever have to step on the field in a real game. That should make things easier for them...I think it is why Romo looks much more comfortable...he has a clue as to where everyone should be and what his reads are.

Henson just isn't there yet. And he basically is taking a step back in the hopes that the end result will be better. Henson will have at least one more year to get it right.

If Bledsoe has a good year this year, I think Henson gets shipped off to NFLE to get some playing time.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Also let me point out that this thread had nothing to do with Romo or the back up position. Rack made his own observation and then YOU came along (banned) and did what you and/or Nors always do... serve your agendas by making snide remarks in hopes you can start a flame war, completely hijacking the thread.

Worthless.

Hey ... look at it this way ... nothing is official ... Henson could still be #2 ... there is still hope ...



I didn't start a flame war. Who have I flamed in here?

I'm having a civil discussion over 2 guys that are on the team. And here's something else to consider while your barking foul. There is actually tangible evidence of the two QB's play to discuss. It's the preseason.

When the season starts and Bledsoe is behind center for 4 QTRS. I'd assume that most of the discussions would consist of Bledsoe. But I'm not certain though, because this Hensonitis thing that has been going around the Dallas fandom is ugly ... and it makes people think crazy and deranged things ... you bring it up ... you invite opinions regarding that matter. And it'll be a cold day in hell when I stop giving my opinion.

Lighten up. This is the preseason. The reason the starting QB battle isn't interesting is because there is nothing there to debate. Bledsoe is the starter.

Sure, it's fun to paint me as the big bad wolf, because your thong is in a wad about Henson. But I'm just a hard-core fan that wants the best for my team. Give the I'm a bad guy stuff a rest. I just want what's best for my team and it is the time of the year when we as fans should be discussing things like ...oh .... back up QB's ... it's the freakin' preseason, Slappy!

 

[Martice]

Only time will tell on this matter. On another note, I keep hearing that DH has this upside that Romo doesn't have. Other than maybe a stronger arm, what does he really have over Romo? Maybe I missed the past discussions on this subject so I'd like to be brougt up to speed on this one. Then again, I'd rather save this question for another thread.

Back to the subject at hand. I think it is totally logical to assume that DH could be struggling because of the degree of difficutly of what he is learning right now. When you are trying to apply something that you have just learned to everyday use, it is only obvious that you may struggle some to get it to where it is second nature.

Also, I find it funny that many assume that DH has this upside potential that he hasn't reached yet and Romo has somehow reached his ceiling already. Who knows what we'll see from either of these QB's when the mental aspect of the game becomes the deciding factor. Romo has already shown you what happens when a QB has a better grip on the mental aspect of a game plan. He get's the #2 spot. However, the scary thing is that we don't know if DH will ever get this aspect of the game.

Only time will tell.

 

[rw54]

I agree with Rack. Henson is suffering from information overload. When he has time to process it, like 7 on 7, he is good. When he doesn't, like in a game with the blitz, he thinks to much and is uncomfortable. As he gets used to processing the information it will come quicker. He still will have many hurdles to clear after that. The same hurdles Romo still has to clear: Can he stay healthy for long stretches, does he know when to give up on a play, will pressure moments make him press to do too much: when teams find out his physical limitations (they all have them) and start to attack them, how will he respond, and many more. Romo and Henson both remind me of that quote in Apollo 13, "We have to have 500 things go right in order and we currently are on number 3." That's why I think pedigree matters somewhat. It's a resource on which you can draw to see if they can answer the questions. It's by no means perfect, but it can be an aid. I think Rack deserves some kind of reward for starting a reseasonable post on a topic that has gotten way out of hand. for Rack.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Banned: Carter more talented than Henson? Don't make me laugh.

As much physical talent, absolutely. Him and Hutch both have as much. Both had major league arms - very good ones. Quincy is just as mobile. Hutch probably has a better arm than Henson. Both QB's are physically gifted.

Laugh all you want, but I'm laughing at you laughing at it. That's the facts.

 

[Martice]

" That's why I think pedigree matters somewhat. It's a resource on which you can draw to see if they can answer the questions. It's by no means perfect, but it can be an aid.

I'm not sure how the pedigree label applies to DH or Romo. Can you explain a little further in detail. I'm sorry but I don't get it.

Thanks

 

[Banned_n_austin]

When the opportunity came as to who would play when Vinny went down it was Henson not Romo so this ideal that Tony was well ahead of Henson last year is BS. I like what I have seen out of Romo this off-season and he has shown improvement in his play. Giving Henson time just as Romo was afforded time I don't think is asking too much. With the reg season fast approaching I'm getting less concerned with all this bantering back and forth regarding 2nd and 3rd team QB's. Lastly I still don't get where you come up with Parcells thinks Henson is a clown those are your words not Parcells

Romo earned the #2 spot his 2nd year ... and don't forget Romo didn't play football until his Jr. year in HS.

I think Henson will get the time to develop. But my guess is he'll be #3 this whole season, behind Romo. If he can develop from there fine, but he's got a lot of catching up to do IMHO.

He needs to make the improvement he should have made this year, next year ... he's behind, farther behind than some of you are capable of seeing. But he'll get a chance to develop.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Well, I think the other burning question is, "Who's better Jim Sorgi or Tom Arth?"

I can't believe some people think Sorgi is the better of the two.

What imbeciles!

The Sorgites are friggin blind; they really are. They're agenda driven fools.

I like Sorgi, Juke. I really do.

 

[Doomsday101]

Romo earned the #2 spot his 2nd year ... and don't forget Romo didn't play football until his Jr. year in HS.

I think Henson will get the time to develop. But my guess is he'll be #3 this whole season, behind Romo. If he can develop from there fine, but he's got a lot of catching up to do IMHO.

He needs to make the improvement he should have made this year, next year ... he's behind, farther behind than some of you are capable of seeing. But he'll get a chance to develop.

Well when the chance came to start someone other than Vinny aginst the Bears who played? Bill could have went to Romo if he was that far ahead of Henson as your suggesting but the facts are Henson was called apoun not Romo. I do agree at this stage Henson will be looking at the 3rd spot and the pressure will be on him to show improvement just as it was with Romo heading into this past off-season.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Funny what I remember was through TC and the first two preseason games last year Parcells was asked in every PC, if he was going to cut the struggling Romo to bring in a vet QB.

Darn, I must have just imagined that 'cause Romo was just lighting it up last year.

And IN TC ... Romo beat out Henson.

What's your point?

Is it that Henson was "lighting it up"?

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I've come to the point where I trust my own eyes and not the ostrich spectator's view from Tempe AZ ... but that's just me ..

Just curious, while were on this kind of ridiculous argument. Whatever happened to the "Romo isn't even signed yet" theory?

Oh ...

You got that right. We signed him. AGAIN!.

 

[rw54]

I'm not sure how the pedigree label applies to DH or Romo. Can you explain a little further in detail. I'm sorry but I don't get it.

Thanks

I'm talking about stuff you are born with, the stuff that can only be improved upon not taught: Size, strength, speed, arm strength, intelligence, quickness of release. It doesn't always work but it is a helpful aid in determining probabilities.

 

[Martice]

Well when the chance came to start someone other than Vinny aginst the Bears who played? Bill could have went to Romo if he was that far ahead of Henson as your suggesting but the facts are Henson was called apoun not Romo. I do agree at this stage Henson will be looking at the 3rd spot and the pressure will be on him to show improvement just as it was with Romo heading into this past off-season.

I see what you are saying Dooms but are you also saying that last year DH had a better grip of the game than Romo and this year Romo has a better grip? Now Drew knew enough last year to play but not this year? What has changed other than Romo playing better this year? Did DH regress or is that Romo has made that much progress or maybe a little of both?

I'd like to get your take on this as someone who I respect on this forum.

Thanks

Banned feel free to chime in as well.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Well when the chance came to start someone other than Vinny aginst the Bears who played? Bill could have went to Romo if he was that far ahead of Henson as your suggesting but the facts are Henson was called apoun not Romo. I do agree at this stage Henson will be looking at the 3rd spot and the pressure will be on him to show improvement just as it was with Romo heading into this past off-season.

And who got yanked half-way through the game?

I just think at that point of the season, we were hanging on by a thread and Parcells was willing to lend Jerruh his ear and he gave in.

Then he turned around and went right back to his guns and put the "injured" Vinny Testaverde back in the game.

I see your point here, Dooms. But it doesn't mean much to me. If it did, we'd all be speculating that Henson would be the primary back up right now. He's not though.

 

[Martice]

I'm talking about stuff you are born with, the stuff that can only be improved upon not taught: Size, strength, speed, arm strength, intelligence, quickness of release. It doesn't always work but it is a helpful aid in determining probabilities.

Thanks for making it clear to me.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

Henson has been playing better since the beginnings of training camp.

Sorry you can't see it "with your own eyes"...But, maybe if you could read you would have seen the articles saying he has been improving.

But hey kid, thump your mighty chest and say your hate statements.

Like it was said earlier, some people want to say "I told you so" more than care about the developement of this team...You sonny boy are one of those.

From what I have seen with my eyes is that I would be starting Romo or Henson over Bledsoe right now. He's the one that has the deer in the headlights look. But he has experience which BP seems to desire at QB more than anything (see Vinny).

Spew your hate, because you can in this country thank god. I just totally disagree with your statements, which is my right and I have expressed my thoughts on your opinion.

Ridiculous post.

I don't hate anyone. Not even a :mule: like you. I just don't have hate in me, my man.

Carry on though ... even if you don't have a point or a lick of substance other than your obvious bitterness.

 

[Juke99]

I like Sorgi, Juke. I really do.

I knew it...where'd you learn about football anyway, ballet school?

Sorgi?!

Juke said it last year, Juke says it again.

Beware the ARTHman!

 

[Doomsday101]

And who got yanked half-way through the game?

I just think at that point of the season, we were hanging on by a thread and Parcells was willing to lend Jerruh his ear and he gave in.

Then he turned around and went right back to his guns and put the "injured" Vinny Testaverde back in the game.

I see your point here, Dooms. But it doesn't mean much to me. If it did, we'd all be speculating that Henson would be the primary back up right now. He's not though.

I'm not saying Henson was ready but neither was Romo not by a long shot. Romo has shown improvement this year and deserves the #2 spot I have no issue with that what so ever and I feel Dallas will continue to work with Henson just as they were willing to work with Romo last year.