My tank and rebuilding plan

[Bigrandrn]

Well, I think we would use Jeanty fur sure. We have to. We need a running game. And I think this plan is the best way to build for the future.

We need a new coach, OC, OL coach, and offensive system for Jeanty to get ANYTHING done here though….this whole offense and its players isn’t conducive to running at this point.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

For Martin, I was saying it's probably a conditional pick, but I think I could see it being a 5 that can be a 4. That's still workable.

I think the comp pick limit is 4 unless you also qualify for the Rooney Rule, which I think gives you a draft pick (from what I've read and am still trying to understand it) if you have a minority coach that gets poached to a higher position. Like, if Al Harris gets taken by say, Washington to be their DC, we would get a pick as long as we didn't fire him.

As for point two, I get that about RBs, but Jeanty looks like someone that can have longevity like Henry does. I think he's one of those backs that we should make an exception for. I think he's what Jerry had in mind when he got Zeke. Plus, that's where getting extra first comes in. We can then use extra picks to try to move up to get a NT like a Walker if needed.

And exactly about Walker. If Jeanty gets picked before we can get him, he should be the pick, but I think he will still be there later in the first round. That's where I think the second of the two firsts would be crucial in terms of how we play it. But, we have to trade Parsons, I think, to get that pick.

As for Dak, exactly. Especially when we are eliminated, why not get our backups some game experience (even though Rush has had some a few years ago) to try to see if we can get some comp picks for them. Especially in Lance's case, we probably can't keep him after this year, so, why not throw him out there after the Bengals game (likely will be just about eliminated by then) and let him play? If he sucks, then we have a cheap backup next year or he goes to the UFL. If he's good, then we will get a good comp picks for him, especially with how many teams need a QB.

I think it's possible, if we continue on this trend, that we could even get Mason Graham, which would be a dream pick. DTs can slide a little, if there are DE, WR and QBs pushing them down.

Would love the VaTech DEnd if he slid to the 2nd as well. I like the cut of his jib (nh)

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Everything looks good except trading Parsons to the Ravens and getting two first-round picks at the end of each round would be like basically getting two second round picks. I'm trading Parsons to a crappy team and getting too early first rounds.

Well, that'd be great too. Maybe a team like the Bears might go for it. Or maybe a team like the Bengals who have no pass rush.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I think it's possible, if we continue on this trend, that we could even get Mason Graham, which would be a dream pick. DTs can slide a little, if there are DE, WR and QBs pushing them down.

Would love the VaTech DEnd if he slid to the 2nd as well. I like the cut of his jib (nh)

I think I'm done getting Michigan players round 1 lol

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I think I'm done getting Michigan players round 1 lol

Ok....fair enough.

Aiden Hutchenson looked OK though.... until his luck snapped (too soon? )

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Ok....fair enough.

Aiden Hutchenson looked OK though.... until his luck snapped (too soon? )

Yeah, I think I'd like to try other colleges on defence round one lol.

 

[Stsinaz12]

This was a thread that I was planning on posting yesterday, but I was sidetracked because my apartment was doing trick or treating. So, I had to scramble to get candy and suit up.

So, here is my tanking and rebuilding plan. I've said part of this in previous threads, so if you want to see the breakdown in Dak's contract, please refer to those threads as there is a way out of it that is beneficial. What I will say is we should in no way be restructuring his deal after this season. We are not going to be very successful next year either way, so just take the cap hit this offseason. Given the situation we are in, we are not going anywhere this season. So, we may as well begin tanking. Here's my best plan for this.

Firstly, we have a lot of injuries, so that will hamper the trade value for players like Parsons midseason, but he probably will be a good offseason trade. So, I'm probably going to move my trade ideas to the offseason part of this thread. However, if we do make a trade, I think we could trade Martin. He's been a legend for us, and I'd trade him to a team who is a contender like the Ravens or the Bills. Firstly, he'd have a chance at a Lombardi, and, secondly, I think we could get a conditional 3 that's a 4 but can be moved to a 3 if certain conditions are met. So, hypothetically, let's suppose he meets those conditions. We would have an extra 3rd in the 2025 draft.

Secondly, I'd bench Dak. He is not entirely the reason for this season being a bust, but he's played poorly. Additionally, since this season is a bust, we may as well preserve him for next year. I'd put in Trey Lance to start and rotate him with Rush. They are in the last year of their deals, and we could try to increase their compensatory pick values. If they play reasonably well, then there's a chance that a team after the season might give them a better contract than they would now. This means we could get a better comp pick for him. We dealt a 4th for Lance, so, hypothetically, let's say we get a 5th round comp pick for him in 2026. I think we would likely finish with a 5-12 pick regardless of which QB starts. Additionally, Cooper Rush's contract is up after this season, so we could probably get a 5th for him too depending on the contract he signs. I think we probably extend Rush though so that we have a backup QB next year. So, for this part of the plan, we probably have an extra 5th in 2026. Additionally, DLaw is a FA after this season. I think he will get a solid contract. So, let's say we get a 4th round comp pick for him for the purpose of this plan. Then, we probably get a 6 and a 7 for two other departures.

So, now we come to the end of the season. The new coach should be Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel. I know a lot want Bill, but I'd like to try something newer. Maybe we even get both Ben Johnson as HC and Vrabel as DC. Then, I'd start trading away pieces. I'd start with Parsons. As much as I like him, I'm not sure we can keep him. I think after this season, we should trade him. Let's say we get 2 first round picks (one in 2025 and one in 2026) from a team like the Ravens who will probably want to shore up their pass rush. I would then try to shop Bland. Let's say we get a 3rd for him in 2025 and a 6 in 2026 from the Chargers. Now, we would have 2, firsts in 2025, a second, and at least 2 3s a long with whatever comp picks we get in 2025. For 2026, we'd have two 1s, a 2, at least 2 3s, and lots of comp picks. That's now a lot of ammunition to work with.

I think, with a 5-12 record, we probably finish with the 8th pick. If first trade back to about the 12th pick, which would probably give us another 3 and a 6th. Then, I take Jeanty. I'd then use our other first and package a few of our spare 3s to move up earlier from the pick we get from the Ravens to get Walker (NT Kentucky) both in the first. Then, I'd use the second round pick on an olineman (probably a guard to replace Martin) and the 3rd we still have on a linebacker.

This improves our ability to run the ball and stop it. I think next year, since we'd be playing the AFC West, NFC North, and a 3rd place schedule, we finish with a record of about 8-9. But, we have 2 firsts. It's the 2026 draft, and we have the extra picks from earlier. I'd use those two firsts and some of our spare picks to move up and get Manning. I'd then use the other pieces to fix our other issues that we can.

For 2026, I'd have Manning sit behind Dak for a portion of the year like the Chiefs did with Mahomes behind Alex Smith. After the season, I would make Dak a 1 June cut, which gives us $45 mil in cap space just from that move with only $16 mil in dead money. Plus, we'd have a QB on a rookie deal. So, we could use that new found cap space on FAs that can fix any remaining issues prior to Manning making his first full season start in 2027. I think we would become a contender if this plan is followed by 2027. I think, if we can do this, then come 2028, we could be hoisting our 6th Lombardi.

I think this is the best way to both mitigate Dak's current deal and position ourselves to become legitimate contenders by 2027.

They are letting 10 more players go this offseason i predict. Osa Wilson Hooker Clarke Cooks Martin is retiring Dlaw etc. this is the 2 yr rebuild. They better do some trading down and get as many picks in the frst 4 rounds as they can

 

[ChuckA1]

i like a lot of this and think your ideas are good. i wish we had 1992 jerry he would have done all of this. but 2024 jerry just wants to Mc Scrooge it and count the money his mediocre team brings in from entertainment

Sorry, but it was the 1992 Jimmy Johnson who came up with ideas like this, not Jerry Jones. Sure he went along with the building of a SB team, but Johnson was the author of the novel.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

They are letting 10 more players go this offseason i predict. Osa Wilson Hooker Clarke Cooks Martin is retiring Dlaw etc. this is the 2 yr rebuild. They better do some trading down and get as many picks in the frst 4 rounds as they can

Right, but we may want to explore trading Martin before the deadline.

 

[Shane612]

Well, and I think the plan that I have written is the best way to rebuild the team. Like I said though, we do need to put Lance in at some point. I'd like it sooner rather than later, but at some point, it is a need. If nothing else, we should do it when we are just about mathematically eliminated from playoff contention.

Yeah. Your ideas aren’t bad, but you’re asking Jerry to do something he rarely does, make multiple trades. He usually picks up bargain players from the unemployment line.
He’ll never bench a healthy Prescott.
And the players you mentioned for possible trades… except for Parsons, I doubt you can get any more the a 6th round pick for any of them.
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But I’m no analyst of any kind, so what do I know?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Yeah. Your ideas aren’t bad, but you’re asking Jerry to do something he rarely does, make multiple trades. He usually picks up bargain players from the unemployment line.
He’ll never bench a healthy Prescott.
And the players you mentioned for possible trades… except for Parsons, I doubt you can get any more the a 6th round pick for any of them.
.
But I’m no analyst of any kind, so what do I know?

Oh, I know it's not something he normally does, but, if he was competent, he could get quite a bit of he could negotiate. I know I'm asking for the impossible from Jerry, but it's the fastest way i think to win a SB.

 

[TheCritic]

I mean, if not immediately, it would be smart once we're eliminated.

You're living in a fantasy world if you think the Jones Klan are going to bench Dak. They made their decision, now you personally get to live with the consequences. RustyBourneHorse=personal property of the Jones Klan.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

You're living in a fantasy world if you think the Jones Klan are going to bench Dak. They made their decision, now you personally get to live with the consequences. RustyBourneHorse=personal property of the Jones Klan.

I'm a free horse. I'm not owned by them. I'm a fan of the team but I'm not owned by them.

 

[TheCritic]

I'm a free horse. I'm not owned by them. I'm a fan of the team but I'm not owned by them.

Your participation on this forum says otherwise. Embrace your shackles.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Your participation on this forum says otherwise. Embrace your shackles.

So....are you saying that it's best to ditch the team? Cuz I could say the same thing about you participating on this forum too.

 

[Adreme]

This was a thread that I was planning on posting yesterday, but I was sidetracked because my apartment was doing trick or treating. So, I had to scramble to get candy and suit up.

So, here is my tanking and rebuilding plan. I've said part of this in previous threads, so if you want to see the breakdown in Dak's contract, please refer to those threads as there is a way out of it that is beneficial. What I will say is we should in no way be restructuring his deal after this season. We are not going to be very successful next year either way, so just take the cap hit this offseason. Given the situation we are in, we are not going anywhere this season. So, we may as well begin tanking. Here's my best plan for this.

Firstly, we have a lot of injuries, so that will hamper the trade value for players like Parsons midseason, but he probably will be a good offseason trade. So, I'm probably going to move my trade ideas to the offseason part of this thread. However, if we do make a trade, I think we could trade Martin. He's been a legend for us, and I'd trade him to a team who is a contender like the Ravens or the Bills. Firstly, he'd have a chance at a Lombardi, and, secondly, I think we could get a conditional 3 that's a 4 but can be moved to a 3 if certain conditions are met. So, hypothetically, let's suppose he meets those conditions. We would have an extra 3rd in the 2025 draft.

Secondly, I'd bench Dak. He is not entirely the reason for this season being a bust, but he's played poorly. Additionally, since this season is a bust, we may as well preserve him for next year. I'd put in Trey Lance to start and rotate him with Rush. They are in the last year of their deals, and we could try to increase their compensatory pick values. If they play reasonably well, then there's a chance that a team after the season might give them a better contract than they would now. This means we could get a better comp pick for him. We dealt a 4th for Lance, so, hypothetically, let's say we get a 5th round comp pick for him in 2026. I think we would likely finish with a 5-12 pick regardless of which QB starts. Additionally, Cooper Rush's contract is up after this season, so we could probably get a 5th for him too depending on the contract he signs. I think we probably extend Rush though so that we have a backup QB next year. So, for this part of the plan, we probably have an extra 5th in 2026. Additionally, DLaw is a FA after this season. I think he will get a solid contract. So, let's say we get a 4th round comp pick for him for the purpose of this plan. Then, we probably get a 6 and a 7 for two other departures.

So, now we come to the end of the season. The new coach should be Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel. I know a lot want Bill, but I'd like to try something newer. Maybe we even get both Ben Johnson as HC and Vrabel as DC. Then, I'd start trading away pieces. I'd start with Parsons. As much as I like him, I'm not sure we can keep him. I think after this season, we should trade him. Let's say we get 2 first round picks (one in 2025 and one in 2026) from a team like the Ravens who will probably want to shore up their pass rush. I would then try to shop Bland. Let's say we get a 3rd for him in 2025 and a 6 in 2026 from the Chargers. Now, we would have 2, firsts in 2025, a second, and at least 2 3s a long with whatever comp picks we get in 2025. For 2026, we'd have two 1s, a 2, at least 2 3s, and lots of comp picks. That's now a lot of ammunition to work with.

I think, with a 5-12 record, we probably finish with the 8th pick. If first trade back to about the 12th pick, which would probably give us another 3 and a 6th. Then, I take Jeanty. I'd then use our other first and package a few of our spare 3s to move up earlier from the pick we get from the Ravens to get Walker (NT Kentucky) both in the first. Then, I'd use the second round pick on an olineman (probably a guard to replace Martin) and the 3rd we still have on a linebacker.

This improves our ability to run the ball and stop it. I think next year, since we'd be playing the AFC West, NFC North, and a 3rd place schedule, we finish with a record of about 8-9. But, we have 2 firsts. It's the 2026 draft, and we have the extra picks from earlier. I'd use those two firsts and some of our spare picks to move up and get Manning. I'd then use the other pieces to fix our other issues that we can.

For 2026, I'd have Manning sit behind Dak for a portion of the year like the Chiefs did with Mahomes behind Alex Smith. After the season, I would make Dak a 1 June cut, which gives us $45 mil in cap space just from that move with only $16 mil in dead money. Plus, we'd have a QB on a rookie deal. So, we could use that new found cap space on FAs that can fix any remaining issues prior to Manning making his first full season start in 2027. I think we would become a contender if this plan is followed by 2027. I think, if we can do this, then come 2028, we could be hoisting our 6th Lombardi.

I think this is the best way to both mitigate Dak's current deal and position ourselves to become legitimate contenders by 2027.

Lance is borderline out of the NFL and at best going to be someone's 3rd string QB. This idea that he is going to be a comp pick needs to die because it is a fantasy. Even if he magically came in and looked good for a game that would earn him the league minimum somewhere to compete for a backup job next season which again is not a comp pick. The 4th round pick was a waste and there will be no returns from that trade. Similarly you are not getting ANYTHING from Rush. You drastically overestimate the value of these backup QBs. Rush was a player that the ENTIRE league could have signed and the entire league passed on. He is at best another vet minimum practice squad guy.

Martin is not getting you a 3 or a 4. A mediocre older player on a 1 year deal about to retire is getting you a 6th at best. Furthermore lets talk about what getting 2 1s for Parsons is. The Cowboys last 3 1s were around where those picks would be (note that the Ravens cant actually afford Parsons but if they could it would be around this spot or later) are Guyton, Mazi Smith, and Tyler Smith. Imagine trading a top 5 defensive player entering his prime for 2 of the names on that list because that is your proposition.

If you also think the hottest names are coming to Dallas after they trade away their best defensive players, you are also kidding yourself.

Finally assuming Manning is the number 1 pick in 2026, 2 firsts are not going to be enough to move up to get him. Trading 2 firsts can move you from 23 to 10 but its not going to get you from 10 to 1 or even 16-20 to 1. To make that trade happen you would need to trade those 2 1s and your first next year as well as both your 2nd round picks for the next 2 years and possibly throw in a 3rd round pick as well. That is the type of collateral we are talking about to make that move and if you make all those moves congratulations you are a roster with no talent on it, no picks for the future, but you have a young QB.

 

[OmerV]

Th NFL will tolerate "tanking" in the form of sitting starters at the end of the season to see young players, but that's only after it's certain who is getting into the playoffs. The media and the public can see a purpose to that. But it's not going to accept a team quitting 7 games into the season. It doesn't want allegations of game fixing, scripting outcomes & lack of integrity. Of course, some of those allegations already exist, but this would fuel those allegations in a way never seen before. The NFL would have a new rule in place before next season

 

[TheCritic]

So....are you saying that it's best to ditch the team? Cuz I could say the same thing about you participating on this forum too.

Or you can just admit like most of us that we are stuck with the Jones Klan and their stupid decisions. Why would you make a suggestion for them to bench Dak when you know there's no way in hell that's ever going to happen?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Or you can just admit like most of us that we are stuck with the Jones Klan and their stupid decisions. Why would you make a suggestion for them to bench Dak when you know there's no way in hell that's ever going to happen?

I mean, yeah, I know we are stuck with them. That said, I'm not going to just silently. If I see an opportunity to try to improve the team, I'm going to post my suggestion. That's kind of the point of a forum.

 

[calicowboy54]

Sorry, but it was the 1992 Jimmy Johnson who came up with ideas like this, not Jerry Jones. Sure he went along with the building of a SB team, but Johnson was the author of the novel.

Yes and Yes But again 2024 Jerry is too interested in his stars to sell Jerseys to Go along with a 1992 plan. He's only interested in making money off the cowboys now not winning championships