My "the sky is not falling" thread

[Garrettop]

Even Steven JG has to come out to 8-8.

We went 12-4 last year so its 4-12 this year.

I think without key injuries, Garret is a 10-6 coach. Dallas has been incredibly unfortunate with a variety of calls and injuries in his tenure. His time management actually isn't an issue anymore, but the vanilla-ness is. Plus the infatuation with bad fullbacks as well as underutilized second string TEs. The 12/21 personnel confusion is the thing that frustrates me the most on the offensive side of the ball. If he is going to want the flexibility on the O side for 12/21 he wants on the D side for LBs, he needs an Hback type for the second string TE. But we keep drafting "Gates" model TEs and then barely playing them and wasting roster slots on scrub FBs.

 

[Stash]

I guess forum credibility is important to you. Unfortunate.

More the credibility of being regarded as someone who knows what they're talking about. Which obviously means nothing to you based on your repeated baseless and inaccurate statements

Ah lets see. Adam Gase. Did really well with Peyton Manning dictating the offense and has the Bears averaging 20ppg and less than 300 yards of offense. Sounds like a serious upgrade.

Much better than the job your hero's doing here. Anything else you'd care to look stupid about?

 

[Rogerthat12]

I'd probably get a lot of downvotes for this thread if that were an option, but fortunately it isn't.

I'm as disappointed as anyone this season. I had completely retreated from sports years ago outside of Dallas Cowboys football and UNC Basketball, and was as hyped as anyone about this season only to be crushed like a clavicle in Week 2. While I don't think the Coryell system is as bad as some here, it definitely needs some "updating", and I thought Linehan was the guy to get it done. Maybe, maybe not, but I think judging the coaches based on super conservative playing with bad QBs is an incorrect approach to analysis.

Despite problems across the team this year, I believe they are all easily fixable in the offseason, and that the lack of a top 10 QB is being handwaved by the boobirds on the board. This D is young and hungry, and Marinelli has showed he is willing to dial up the pressure as he has confidence in both his players and the other side of the ball. Garrett and Linehan aren't BB, but no one else in the league is either. I believe we have the best we are going to get with Jerry alive, and that it's good enough to be commanding the division next year and into the future with Romo or an understudy in command. Of course, all of this is contingent on getting a legitimate understudy.

Some guys on here want to discount Garrett's non-gameday abilities. You can learn time management and you can tweak your Xs and Os. Organizational and motivational skills are nearly impossible to teach. Id rather have someone born with the latter.

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[Garrettop]

More the credibility of being regarded as someone who knows what they're talking about. Which obviously means nothing to you based on your repeated baseless and inaccurate statements

Much better than the job your hero's doing here. Anything else you'd care to look stupid about?

"Your hero". Are you basing that on the avatar? I guess you want Beavis for HC?

Garrett has done very well running an offense with Romo under center. Gase has done very will with Peyton under center. Garrett's offense is 3 pts and 40 yards behind Gase's this year with Weeden and Cassel throwing to the other team, and then TWill and butterfingerBeaz most of the year. Cutler isn't amazing, but he's worth at least 3 pts and 40 yards over Weeden/Cassel. Of course, you'll probably just respond with more ad homs and make some pedantic post about how awesome your hero Gase is.

 

[EST_1986]

Sky isn't falling because it crashed down a few months ago

 

[Rogerthat12]

Sky isn't falling because it crashed down a few months ago

The full body of work has not been good!

 

[movaughn88]

I guess forum credibility is important to you. Unfortunate.

Ah lets see. Adam Gase. Did really well with Peyton Manning dictating the offense and has the Bears averaging 20ppg and less than 300 yards of offense. Sounds like a serious upgrade.

'top, I admire your perseverance in this thread. You make a lot of solid logical points. There are many on your side, but the vocal minority (now strong, they are, yes?) will only bash coaching and Garrett and anything to do with the team really, make some jokes about clapping or his hair color or some pejorative name for him, and get some likes from the others. It's a pile on.

It's very easy to say "I don't agree with what's happening" because there is only about a 1/32 chance they will be wrong in any given year. It's a bail of out supporting the team as it currently stands. There is a lot of frustration, and that leads fans to ask for anything and everything else besides the reality of what's going on with the team. It gives them a way to distance themselves.

As you have pointed out, there aren't many men that can walk through the door next year, work under the existing ownership/GM structure we have, and command the respect of the team.

 

[Garrettop]

'top, I admire your perseverance in this thread. You make a lot of solid logical points. There are many on your side, but the vocal minority (now strong, they are, yes?) will only bash coaching and Garrett and anything to do with the team really, make some jokes about clapping or his hair color or some pejorative name for him, and get some likes from the others. It's a pile on.

It's very easy to say "I don't agree with what's happening" because there is only about a 1/32 chance they will be wrong in any given year. It's a bail of out supporting the team as it currently stands. There is a lot of frustration, and that leads fans to ask for anything and everything else besides the reality of what's going on with the team. It gives them a way to distance themselves.

As you have pointed out, there aren't many men that can walk through the door next year, work under the existing ownership/GM structure we have, and command the respect of the team.

Thank you. I'm not going to pretend Garrett is the best coach in the NFL. He's not even top ten as best as I can tell. But the Anyones think he is 32. That's simply incorrect. Furthermore, they can't understand the nuance of working with the Jones family and under the spotlight of the Star. Garrett is most likely the best we can hope for until Jerry is dead. Payton is the only possible upgrade that's on my radar and I have no expectation of a Garrett for Payton change.

Edit: If somehow Payton became the HC of the club during the offseason, I'll be requesting a name change to "Halfhat".

 

[Stash]

"Your hero". Are you basing that on the avatar? I guess you want Beavis for HC?

Eh, wouldn't do a worse job anyway...

Garrett has done very well running an offense with Romo under center. Gase has done very will with Peyton under center. Garrett's offense is 3 pts and 40 yards behind Gase's this year with Weeden and Cassel throwing to the other team, and then TWill and butterfingerBeaz most of the year. Cutler isn't amazing, but he's worth at least 3 pts and 40 yards over Weeden/Cassel. Of course, you'll probably just respond with more ad homs and make some pedantic post about how awesome your hero Gase is.

Actually, I'll point out that Gase has also coached games that Cutler has missed, while also helping Cutler have a fine year, putting up better numbers than any of our quarterbacks.

Gase will get a head coaching job, here or somewhere else. Once Jones fires Garrett, he will never, ever see another head coaching job in the NFL.

 

[movaughn88]

Thank you. I'm not going to pretend Garrett is the best coach in the NFL. He's not even top ten as best as I can tell. But the Anyones think he is 32. That's simply incorrect. Furthermore, they can't understand the nuance of working with the Jones family and under the spotlight of the Star. Garrett is most likely the best we can hope for until Jerry is dead. Payton is the only possible upgrade that's on my radar and I have no expectation of a Garrett for Payton change.

Edit: If somehow Payton became the HC of the club during the offseason, I'll be requesting a name change to "Halfhat".

Exactly. I'm a Garrett supporter, and I'm certainly not saying he's some coaching legend the making. I also agree that Peyton is a very viable replacement, and would probably be on board with that because he's had some success. Do I think he could *poof* make this team better next year than Garrett would? Doubtful, but worth a shot.

This league works on margins, and very slim ones at that. If you analyze any coach in the league, there are massive mistakes made in hindsight. That's the media's job. I'll keep stealing a friends quote, Jason is a leader of men, and you don't find that very often in any field.

 

[Garrettop]

Eh, wouldn't do a worse job anyway...

Actually, I'll point out that Gase has also coached games that Cutler has missed, while also helping Cutler have a fine year, putting up better numbers than any of our quarterbacks.

Gase will get a head coaching job, here or somewhere else. Once Jones fires Garrett, he will never, ever see another head coaching job in the NFL.

Cutler is a better QB than Weeden and Cassel. Are you high right now? Ofc Gase has a decent shot at a HC job in the future. The Browns et al are always looking for bad HC candidates.

@movaughn88: Yes, having been in the military and in a variety of other fields, I appreciate a leader of men, having suffered through the lack thereof. Of course, you'd have to be a man and/or a leader to appreciate a leader of men, and the Anyones can lay claim to neither.

 

[Doomsay]

"Your hero". Are you basing that on the avatar? I guess you want Beavis for HC?

Even Beavis would know tha rub routes rule. "He said rub. Heh, heh"

 

[Stash]

Cutler is a better QB than Weeden and Cassel. Are you high right now? Ofc Gase has a decent shot at a HC job in the future. The Browns et al are always looking for bad HC candidates.

And even they wouldn't hire the in-over-his-head cheerleader we currently employ. You tried - and failed - to attack Gailey and Wade Phillips, but at least they are coaches who can coach one side of the ball very well. Garrett brings nothing to either side. Any wins come despite him, not because of him.

He'll never see another NFL head coaching job after Jones eventually wises up. The word is out on him.. His record speaks for itself.

 

[Garrettop]

Even Beavis would know tha rub routes rule. "He said rub. Heh, heh"

Rub routes are technically illegal and should be consistentally called illegal. It's not Redhead's fault the league reps won't treat it as such.

And even they wouldn't hire the in-over-his-head cheerleader we currently employ. You tried - and failed - to attack Gailey and Wade Phillips, but at least they are coaches who can coach one side of the ball very well. Garrett brings nothing to either side. Any wins come despite him, not because of him.

He'll never see another NFL head coaching job after Jones eventually wises up. The word is out on him.. His record speaks for itself.

Garrett did just as fine as an OC with a comparable QB as your golden boy. Any argument for Gase can be discounted via Peyton as those for Garrett can be via Romo. You are outmatched, Beavis. Might want to get some sort of education in logic/argumentatation as well as football. Your tryhard status is showing.

 

[Stash]

Garrett did just as fine as an OC with a comparable QB as your golden boy. Any argument for Gase can be discounted via Peyton as those for Garrett can be via Romo. You are outmatched, Beavis. Might want to get some sort of education in logic/argumentatation as well as football. Your tryhard status is showing.

Seriously? Is your sense of self -awareness so lacking that you're not aware that everything you've posted since the beginning of this thread has been totally, utterly, and completely wrong?

You've made yourself look foolish ever since you started this thread.

But hey, keep going...

 

[Doomsay]

Rub routes are technically illegal and should be consistentally called illegal. It's not Redhead's fault the league reps won't treat it as such.
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Rub routes aren't illegal w/o contact, you are being as obtuse and unimaginative as your just barely above 500 coach.

Never has a coach done so little with so much. The guy who has been stripped of almost any game day responsibility, couldn't get a coordinator position with any other team much less another head coaching chance. What does that say about his fitness to coach here?

 

[Garrettop]

Seriously? Is your sense of self -awareness so lacking that you're not aware that everything you've posted since the beginning of this thread has been totally, utterly, and completely wrong?

You've made yourself look foolish ever since you started this thread.

But hey, keep going...

You haven't a clue how to recognize, differentiate, nor address a simple argument properly. That is the embarrassment. "Picard is disappoint". Here are some terms for you to google:

Logic
Premise
Conclusion
Syllogism

You have demonstrated a lack of understanding of all 4.

Rub routes aren't illegal w/o contact, you are being as obtuse and unimaginative as your just barely above 500 coach.

Rub routes are designed with contact in mind. Seriously?

 

[dfense]

You sound like a Browns fan.

Actually, he makes a lot of sense. He has a rational outlook on a constructive off-season. This site can use a little more of it.

The blow it up argument is just foolish. Dallas might go 4-2 in their own division. What does that say for the other "healthy" teams?

 

[dfense]

The fact is, this team wasnt much better even when Romo was healthy. We barely beat a Giants team with a healthy Romo and should have lost that game. Screw this teams effort in 2015.

Ha ha, yup, barely wins. They also barely beat Philly with their backup, barely beat Washington to. What was their excuse?

 

[dfense]

Seriously? Is your sense of self -awareness so lacking that you're not aware that everything you've posted since the beginning of this thread has been totally, utterly, and completely wrong?

You've made yourself look foolish ever since you started this thread.

But hey, keep going...

I wish there was a dislike button.