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I don't know how anyone can say that with a straight face. Especially since the guy opposite of him is pulling off one of the greatest houdini tricks I've ever seen.

Guess you haven't read the OP's usual Dez rants every week.
 

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The amazing thing is that Romo is limping between every play and is still putting the ball where it needs to be, for the most part. There was one of those throws to Dez where he threw it off his back foot, like Matthew Stafford, and it was a frozen rope. You don't see that too often from Romo.
 

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McClain (DT) did something real idiotic last night but I can't remember what somebody help

He got a personal foul, but it shouldn't have been called, IMO. He was running across the field looking back towards the ball carrier and as he got near the sideline an Eagles player was just standing there. T. McClain looked up at the last second and extended his hands/arms into that player as he realized that he was going to run into him.
 

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IM going to start this week by saying sometimes its better to be lucky then good. And i mean this wholeheartedly in reference to Wilcox. The guy was so out of posistion on that INT that you just have to laugh when something good comes out from something so horrible that you wonder why he is starting. He is single high and he is literally going in the opposite direction from the way intended pass is going. LOL its tipped and falls right to him. He held on to it so thats all that matters.

The Defense started great and end the game ever better. It was clear that the defense benefited from the practice bootcamp the team put them through this week. That move was pure genius. That got them prepared for the tempo they were going to face vs philly.

Mincey is turning into the DLs workhorse. He's slow and not very strong but the guy never stops moving and finds ways to get sacks. I dont know what happened to him in jacksonville and i dont care, all i know is the guy is a gamer for this team. He never quits.

I think we mightve saw the starting DTs for 2015 tonight in Crawford and McClain. Melton is clearly affected by not getting on the field because of Crawford. And im not even mad about it.

In 2015 this team needs to get some DEs. I have a feeling Jerry is going to sell out and i wouldnt be suprised to see JPP in Dallas next yr. I would love to see him rushing from the right side. If he was the only FA signing for the defense he would make a big difference for this team.

Rolando McClain will make some super plays like the first series of this game and them level off and make you scratch your head. Thats why i dont think he is a lock for this team next yr.

The OL dominated today early, and Free went out of the game. Xwalker Parnell is a backup plain and simple. Sorry to bust your bubble but all this you talk about Free getting all this help is so wrong its not even funny. Free is a huge peive to the success of this OL. I see a 3 yr deal coming for Free at the end of the yr.

Dez bryant had a monster game, but i have to say give alot of that credit to Romo with them perfectly placed balls. But he abuse fletcher tonight. That had to be the longest game of his career.

Romo had a couple misthrows but the guy was money the whole game. Romo got them back in the game with his arm tonight and that was a good thing to see.

Why the hell has it taken this long to get Beasely involved in the gameplan?

I know i mention this alot but it really gets to me. There are some of you in this forum who have to be some of the worst fans this team has. Its like some of you get more happy with Cowboy failure then theyre success. And thats a sad thing.

And lastly ill say Leary didnt win the battle with cox tonight but he didnt lose it either. He controlled Cox for the most part. And Barwin was controlled aswell for the most part. And those two were the two most disruptive players on thanksgiving.

Get ready to have some fun cause the boys are playing for keeps. And the ride is just starting. So get on the wagon and enjoy it. Every minute of it.

Wilcox, Dez and Romo were the players of the game. You've been trying to convinced people that Wilcox can't play all season.

Dez had an incredible game but you can only give him a backhanded compliment?

RoMc is a problem?

Parnell didn't give up a sack and was not penalized. I can't say that for Free. Parnell even tried to block 2 pass rushers on one play where Martin was late getting over.
 

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Wilcox, Dez and Romo were the players of the game. You've been trying to convinced people that Wilcox can't play all season.

Dez had an incredible game but you can only give him a backhanded compliment?

RoMc is a problem?

Parnell didn't give up a sack and was not penalized. I can't say that for Free. Parnell even tried to block 2 pass rushers on one play where Martin was late getting over.

One thing that is certain, Martin and Parnell were not as in sync as Free and Martin are. Not sure if that's practice or not, but something to keep an eye on. Parnell gets benefit of the doubt because he wasn't expected to play, but if we let go of Free we need to bring competition in.
 

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IM going to start this week by saying sometimes its better to be lucky then good. And i mean this wholeheartedly in reference to Wilcox. The guy was so out of posistion on that INT that you just have to laugh when something good comes out from something so horrible that you wonder why he is starting. He is single high and he is literally going in the opposite direction from the way intended pass is going. LOL its tipped and falls right to him. He held on to it so thats all that matters.

The Defense started great and end the game ever better. It was clear that the defense benefited from the practice bootcamp the team put them through this week. That move was pure genius. That got them prepared for the tempo they were going to face vs philly.

Mincey is turning into the DLs workhorse. He's slow and not very strong but the guy never stops moving and finds ways to get sacks. I dont know what happened to him in jacksonville and i dont care, all i know is the guy is a gamer for this team. He never quits.

I think we mightve saw the starting DTs for 2015 tonight in Crawford and McClain. Melton is clearly affected by not getting on the field because of Crawford. And im not even mad about it.

In 2015 this team needs to get some DEs. I have a feeling Jerry is going to sell out and i wouldnt be suprised to see JPP in Dallas next yr. I would love to see him rushing from the right side. If he was the only FA signing for the defense he would make a big difference for this team.

Rolando McClain will make some super plays like the first series of this game and them level off and make you scratch your head. Thats why i dont think he is a lock for this team next yr.

The OL dominated today early, and Free went out of the game. Xwalker Parnell is a backup plain and simple. Sorry to bust your bubble but all this you talk about Free getting all this help is so wrong its not even funny. Free is a huge peive to the success of this OL. I see a 3 yr deal coming for Free at the end of the yr.

Dez bryant had a monster game, but i have to say give alot of that credit to Romo with them perfectly placed balls. But he abuse fletcher tonight. That had to be the longest game of his career.

Romo had a couple misthrows but the guy was money the whole game. Romo got them back in the game with his arm tonight and that was a good thing to see.

Why the hell has it taken this long to get Beasely involved in the gameplan?

I know i mention this alot but it really gets to me. There are some of you in this forum who have to be some of the worst fans this team has. Its like some of you get more happy with Cowboy failure then theyre success. And thats a sad thing.

And lastly ill say Leary didnt win the battle with cox tonight but he didnt lose it either. He controlled Cox for the most part. And Barwin was controlled aswell for the most part. And those two were the two most disruptive players on thanksgiving.

Get ready to have some fun cause the boys are playing for keeps. And the ride is just starting. So get on the wagon and enjoy it. Every minute of it.

I think you are referring to prior seasons where Free is noticeably lined up further back? That definitely happened for quite some time. Be happy about Free ('14) but let's not play dumb here. Free was a major liability @ times and the team orchestrated the OL to protect Free from inside moves? Now as to Parnell being his replacement, that is another topic. But XWalker was completely correct in pointing out that space alignments (and assignments) were adjustments made by team (scheme wise) to specifically compensate for Free...remember the outside in arguments? The RG was basically going (outside-in) in terms of his responsibilities to protect Free against inside moves.
 

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Way to start off your post criticizing a guy who was responsible for two of the biggest defensive plays in the game.

Yeah Wilcox was in the right place at the right time, but that was far from a gimme INT. Wilcox was also the one who forced the fumble on Celek in the 4th.

Actually Wilber is the guy who knocked the ball out. Celek just happened to fall on top of wilcox. Like i said better to be lucky then good. ill take it
 

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LOL…Wilcox lucked into his INT whereas Church made some great play against the Giants?

If you're going to criticize, at least be consistent.

Both were late in support, but Church's INT was an absolute Eli gift right into his gut. At least, Wilcox made an athletic play.

Heck, I think Wilcox showed some major athleticism on the Carr goof. Yes, it took him a while to get turned, as he was dealing with a downfield screen block, but he ultimately did and made a decent tackle under the circumstances.

Church wouldn't have even been in the picture on that play or he would've tripped over his feet at the 20.

If you've got to choose one of the two, give me the athletic guy who appears to be slowly getting it.
 

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IM going to start this week by saying sometimes its better to be lucky then good. And i mean this wholeheartedly in reference to Wilcox. The guy was so out of posistion on that INT that you just have to laugh when something good comes out from something so horrible that you wonder why he is starting. He is single high and he is literally going in the opposite direction from the way intended pass is going. LOL its tipped and falls right to him. He held on to it so thats all that matters.

All due respect but your analysis her is completely inaccurate. I read your post and something didn't make sense to me. Having watched the play in real-time I thought it was a great play/reaction by Wilcox, but figured I must have been wrong in what I saw after reading your post. However, I just re-watched the game and watched this play in particular several times. Wilcox, despite your claim, is in PERFECT position. He is running in the same direction and towards the TE. He would have had a chance to deliver a big shot and perhaps knocked the ball away had it been completed. Once it was tipped, he made a terrific reaction to the ball and made a really good catch. Not sure what you were watching on the play but your analysis, at least on this one, was just wrong sir.
 

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IM going to start this week by saying sometimes its better to be lucky then good. And i mean this wholeheartedly in reference to Wilcox. The guy was so out of posistion on that INT that you just have to laugh when something good comes out from something so horrible that you wonder why he is starting. He is single high and he is literally going in the opposite direction from the way intended pass is going. LOL its tipped and falls right to him. He held on to it so thats all that matters.

The Defense started great and end the game ever better. It was clear that the defense benefited from the practice bootcamp the team put them through this week. That move was pure genius. That got them prepared for the tempo they were going to face vs philly.

Mincey is turning into the DLs workhorse. He's slow and not very strong but the guy never stops moving and finds ways to get sacks. I dont know what happened to him in jacksonville and i dont care, all i know is the guy is a gamer for this team. He never quits.

I think we mightve saw the starting DTs for 2015 tonight in Crawford and McClain. Melton is clearly affected by not getting on the field because of Crawford. And im not even mad about it.

In 2015 this team needs to get some DEs. I have a feeling Jerry is going to sell out and i wouldnt be suprised to see JPP in Dallas next yr. I would love to see him rushing from the right side. If he was the only FA signing for the defense he would make a big difference for this team.

Rolando McClain will make some super plays like the first series of this game and them level off and make you scratch your head. Thats why i dont think he is a lock for this team next yr.

The OL dominated today early, and Free went out of the game. Xwalker Parnell is a backup plain and simple. Sorry to bust your bubble but all this you talk about Free getting all this help is so wrong its not even funny. Free is a huge peive to the success of this OL. I see a 3 yr deal coming for Free at the end of the yr.

Dez bryant had a monster game, but i have to say give alot of that credit to Romo with them perfectly placed balls. But he abuse fletcher tonight. That had to be the longest game of his career.

Romo had a couple misthrows but the guy was money the whole game. Romo got them back in the game with his arm tonight and that was a good thing to see.

Why the hell has it taken this long to get Beasely involved in the gameplan?

I know i mention this alot but it really gets to me. There are some of you in this forum who have to be some of the worst fans this team has. Its like some of you get more happy with Cowboy failure then theyre success. And thats a sad thing.

And lastly ill say Leary didnt win the battle with cox tonight but he didnt lose it either. He controlled Cox for the most part. And Barwin was controlled aswell for the most part. And those two were the two most disruptive players on thanksgiving.

Get ready to have some fun cause the boys are playing for keeps. And the ride is just starting. So get on the wagon and enjoy it. Every minute of it.

Does this call for popcorn to enjoy? If so i'm getting mine ready to go .
 

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OP has no idea what he's talking about re: Wilcox. Woeful lack of understanding of the position and defense as a whole, for that matter.

0/10, didn't read.
 

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I used to be a big Wilcox fan and I thought he had potential to be a good player for us. I no longer think that, but I do think he can be a serviceable safety in this league. Will he impact games? No, probably not. But he's a 2nd year player who isn't embarrassing himself. Low bar, but I'll take it with the relative lack of talent we have on the defense elsewhere. Or at least, I'm ready to see what he can do in year 3.

INT, forced fumble, fumble recovery in a prime time road game against the shoe in Sper Bowl representative Eagles.

If you don't think he impacted the game, then you simply don't know what you're watching.
 

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i dont think mcclain's game has changed much, i just think people are really underestimating justin durant's loss. him and durant had some good chemistry building before he got hurt. durant was cleaning up a lot of plays in the run game. the negative effect of his loss is obvious.

Well said regarding Durant. He was playing with great intensity/energy this season.

IMO, they also lost their top 3 coverage LB's...Lee, Holloman & Durant. Two before the season even started. Holloman had the potential to be really solid in that area given his safety background at SoCar. Carter has had a couple of nice picks...to include vs. the Eagles. Looking forward to seeing Hitch continue to develop.
 

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Actually Wilber is the guy who knocked the ball out. Celek just happened to fall on top of wilcox. Like i said better to be lucky then good. ill take it

He was torquing the arm in his judo takedown that took Celek off his feet and didn't let him hit the ground because he was underneath him. In fairness both deserve credit because Wilber putting his pads into him sealed the deal but it was Wilcox excellent tackle that presented the stage.

One thing I like about Wilcox is that he puts the safe in safety. He was single high in cover 3 when Hayden got washed by a double team, McClain got laid out by a trap block and Celek overwhelmed Carter. Wilcox came up 5 yards and met McCoy at the 10 yards past the los and stopped him for a 14 yard gain.
 

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INT, forced fumble, fumble recovery in a prime time road game against the shoe in Sper Bowl representative Eagles.

If you don't think he impacted the game, then you simply don't know what you're watching.

Also saved the touchdown Maclin was about to get. This board in general has unreasonably high expectations for safety IMO. They is want two Earl Thomas's back there.

As a side note, safety is becoming incredibly harder to play. You easily get flagged for being over aggressive just like Eric Reid this past weekend.
 

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I'd bring him back if i can get a reasonable deal, but if he chases the money I think it's a business decision. McClain is a quality MLB and has been playing it, but his play against the run far exceeds that against the pass, and you're starting to see each week a little more that if you stretch him to the sideline he can be a tick slow in reaction. He is also a little over aggressive on play action which leaves the seam open from time to time - I think he masks it a little though because he's one of the taller MLBs out there.

McClain is a very nice player, and I'd love to keep him, but I don't know how he will react when he gets paid, that so called rust - well, it's 14 games into the season. It should be off by now. At the very least, cleanup the repetitive mistakes.

Yes he makes mistakes. But you know what? I think we are fortunate to have him. He makes mistakes but he still is a quality linebacker playing the middle. Now what I want you to do is take a deep breath and close your eyes. Imagine not having #55 in the lineup. Imagine Sean Lee being hurt for the season and not having a quality MLB to fill the void. Imagine this defense without him. Now that I got your attention you can open your eyes. As you can see McClain has been a blessing. Because without him this defense would have been a disaster.
 

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Also saved the touchdown Maclin was about to get. This board in general has unreasonably high expectations for safety IMO. They is want two Earl Thomas's back there.

As a side note, safety is becoming incredibly harder to play. You easily get flagged for being over aggressive just like Eric Reid this past weekend.

Well, for a long time there, our Safety play was awful. It's actually been pretty consistent this year. I don't know why people are down on Wilcox. He's a decent young player with some real strengths to his game who's still got upside to develop. He plays hard. He hits. He tackles well in space with the guy in front of him. He's got range. He's just got to recognize faster and take some better angles when he's not hammering a guy on the edge at the line of scrimmage.
 

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If Lovie smith is there he will be there.

Well he is there. I don't understand the logic for him going there since the only reason you've stated is that their friends. Kiffen is here and will probably be here next year. So there is a high possibility Marinelli will be back. Sorry but I don't buy that Marinelli wants to be with Lovie all the time. Its seems that some here wants it to happen.
 
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