My Thoughts New Era in Dallas

[Sydla]

You know you and I are on the same spectrum on a lot of issues with this team. But I will say this about the D....they stepped up yesterday when they had to, especially on the final drive. We've seen all too often where Romo takes us down the field for the go-ahead score only to have the D fold. No matter how little time was left, no matter who we played, no matter which back-up QB was facing us, no lead was safe. It's the curse Romo has lived with most of his career.

The next few games will be very telling for our season and the future of the QB position. It's hard not to like what we see from Dak. If we pull out a couple of wins against Cincy, GB or Philly, this team might be for real in terms of playoff caliber.

I'll agree with that but also point out that stopping Blaine Gabbert and a bunch of no name WRs late is a lot different than trying to stop Aaron Rodgers or even Andy Dalton and AJ Green late.

 

[DandyDon1722]

I'm older and Romo deserves his job back simply because he gives us the best chance to win as the season unfolds.

Remember, the teams we've played and look at the teams coming up.

Finally, there's this - no QB in the history of the league has won a Super Bowl with a Def. Pass Rating in the bottom ten in the league which is where we've been for years and still are this season.

If Dak beats those odds - he's going to the HOF.

 

[JoeKing]

Meh. I don't feel like explaining it, because that's going to beget an exchange where your try to defend it. If you really think Tony Romo is 'scared' 'a chicken' and a 'scared old man,' I won't spend the time disabusing you of those notions. And I don't want to legitimize any discussion on the topic by actually engaging it.

I think it's really poor form for any Cowboys fan given Tony's ability, commitment, and his overall level of play his entire career in Dallas. I also think you're way, way out on a limb of your own making with the stance you're taking. It would be better just to be really happy about Dak and prefer him to Tony. But that's just my $.02.

You think too highly of your own opinion, that's isn't what legitimizes the discussion, it's just the reality of it all. Father time is undefeated and Tony's time has expired. It's just the nature of all things. Romo knows this to be true and the organization is just giving him time to adjust to it. Harsh reality, I know.

 

[Idgit]

Romo was a great QB. BUt his body just cant take the hits anymore. Sorry but putting the team on the shoulders of a QB who has a bad shoulder and bad back is just ridiculous. That last hit to SEA wasnt anything like the hits last yr but it broke.

That hit v. SEA was a lot worse than the hits that have broken his collar bones.

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy the idea that a skeleton starts to disintegrate at 36 due to age. Tony's got a legitimate back condition that might well prove to be career ending at some point, but that's it.

Now, the question of whether or not Dak might be capable of outplaying Tony in a short amount of time while still on a rookie deal is legitimate. As is the question of whether or not we want to disrupt an offense that appears to be in the early process of finding a really effective rhythm. I'm not saying we should automatically sit Dak for Tony when he comes back. At this point, I just want to wait and see what happens because Dak's playing so much better than he was in week one already. It's possible he really does make things interesting if he keeps making the strides he has from week to week the first quarter of the season.

 

[Idgit]

You think too highly of your own opinion, that's isn't what legitimizes the discussion, it's just the reality of it all. Father time is undefeated and Tony's time has expired. It's just the nature of all things. Romo knows this to be true and the organization is just giving him time to adjust to it. Harsh reality, I know.

Obviously, what I'm saying here is based entirely on my opinion. Though a number of people seem to share it. If I didn't think highly of a particular opinion, I wouldn't bother to post it. Why go to bat over an opinion you don't think highly about? That would be stupid.

So that's fine. You think highly of yours, and I'll think highly of mine. That's how we get the reputations we get on the forum. Just don't act surprised at the reaction your reputation has earned you and we're all good.

Also, what you're posting here is not at all what I was referring to from your earlier post, and we both know that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well we were discussing playoff caliber teams
If we're going to give up 28 to those teams we really don't have a shot of winning with Dak this year

The defense is absolutely terrible
If not for Blaine Gabbert the game yesterday would have been over

I don't know if this is a playoff team or not.

It may not be.

Still many moving parts need to be sorted.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I set those targets mostly because I think it is reasonable to expect a Dak led offense to score 21 against GB but unlikely they would score 28

the strawman of 40 or 50 points is laughable just reflective of how little faith you (and Michael) have in the defense

Thank you for making my point

Oh I think this offense could score 28 vs. GB. GB is a playoff quality team, but their defense still isn't the equal of their offense (sounds familiar huh?).

 

[Idgit]

Oh I think this offense could score 28 vs. GB. GB is a playoff quality team, but their defense still isn't the equal of their offense (sounds familiar huh?).

Looking forward to that GB game. Great QB, good team overall, but I don't think they're quite as strong as they have been in recent years. MIN is the class of that division right now. GB is a likely wildcard team that we're going to get on the road. If we get by CIN, that's going to be another really fun game to watch.

 

[JoeKing]

Obviously, what I'm saying here is based entirely on my opinion. Though a number of people seem to share it. If I didn't think highly of a particular opinion, I wouldn't bother to post it. Why go to bat over an opinion you don't think highly about? That would be stupid.

So that's fine. You think highly of yours, and I'll think highly of mine. That's how we get the reputations we get on the forum. Just don't act surprised at the reaction your reputation has earned you and we're all good.

Also, what you're posting here is not at all what I was referring to from your earlier post, and we both know that.

Nuancing the argument to something that I did not say will not work. I didn't knock your comment for liking your own opinion, I knocked your comment because you said it would legitimize the argument. The argument doesn't need your opinion what-so-ever to be legitimate, but that's not to say it's not welcomed.

Is it really so gross to realize Romo's time is over and the new kid in town it taking over? I'm sorry you don't see it, but you will. This situation with Romo will work it's self out.

 

[Idgit]

Nuancing the argument to something that I did not say will not work. I didn't knock your comment for liking your own opinion, I knocked your comment because you said it would legitimize the argument. The argument doesn't need your opinion what-so-ever to be legitimate, but that's not to say it's not welcomed.

Is it really so gross to realize Romo's time is over and the new kid in town it taking over? I'm sorry you don't see it, but you will. This situation with Romo will work it's self out.

Here is the part of your post which I responded to, verbatim: "...He [Tony Romo] got scared and chickened out like the scared old man he is. The game has passed him by and he knows it."

There was no need whatsoever to 'nuance an argument to something you did not say.' I simply reacted to what you said.

 

[LatinMind]

That hit v. SEA was a lot worse than the hits that have broken his collar bones.

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy the idea that a skeleton starts to disintegrate at 36 due to age. Tony's got a legitimate back condition that might well prove to be career ending at some point, but that's it.

Now, the question of whether or not Dak might be capable of outplaying Tony in a short amount of time while still on a rookie deal is legitimate. As is the question of whether or not we want to disrupt an offense that appears to be in the early process of finding a really effective rhythm. I'm not saying we should automatically sit Dak for Tony when he comes back. At this point, I just want to wait and see what happens because Dak's playing so much better than he was in week one already. It's possible he really does make things interesting if he keeps making the strides he has from week to week the first quarter of the season.

no the skeleton starts to disintergrate when ur bones continually start to break.

 

[Idgit]

no the skeleton starts to disintergrate when ur bones continually start to break.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I set those targets mostly because I think it is reasonable to expect a Dak led offense to score 21 against GB but unlikely they would score 28

the strawman of 40 or 50 points is laughable just reflective of how little faith you (and Michael) have in the defense

Thank you for making my point

Wait. Your point was that you have little faith in the defense? If that was it then I agree. I was referring to you not acknowledging they are playing solid football. Especially if you factor in how the rest of the league is playing. They we're 10th in points allowed last week with 20 and they should be even better this week with San Fran scoring 17.

 

[Dodger12]

I'll agree with that but also point out that stopping Blaine Gabbert and a bunch of no name WRs late is a lot different than trying to stop Aaron Rodgers or even Andy Dalton and AJ Green late.

No doubt and you won't get an argument from me on your point. This D is challenged. But there was a time this D couldn't stop the Gabberts of the world. I'm not even saying they are going to stop Rodgers or Dalton. But they've played well and held on the final drive and it was refreshing not to need your QB to pull a miracle out of the hat.

I'm not expecting much against top tier QB's and receivers but they took care of their business this Sunday and I'm just hoping for the best moving forward.

 

[LatinMind]

I'm older and Romo deserves his job back simply because he gives us the best chance to win as the season unfolds.

Remember, the teams we've played and look at the teams coming up.

Finally, there's this - no QB in the history of the league has won a Super Bowl with a Def. Pass Rating in the bottom ten in the league which is where we've been for years and still are this season.

If Dak beats those odds - he's going to the HOF.

Dallas is top 10 in scoring defense. How come nobody mentions that when talking about this def? You know what they call them kind of yrds Dallas is allowing in the passing and rushing game? Empty yards

 

[Dodger12]

And let me add one more thing @Sydla . How many of us thought we'd be 3 and 1 without Romo, Smith, Dez, Lawrence, etc?

They failed miserably last season and I crucified the team for it because they deserved it. It's not the same game it was in years past. Young QB's can come in and make a difference in today's NFL whose rules are slanted towards the offense.

The next few weeks will give us an idea where we are. I like what Dak has shown but he's got a long ways to go. My only issue is whether or not this coaching staff can develop Prescott to his fullest potential and help him win because I don't think they've done Romo any favors.

 

[JoeKing]

Here is the part of your post which I responded to, verbatim: "...He [Tony Romo] got scared and chickened out like the scared old man he is. The game has passed him by and he knows it."

There was no need whatsoever to 'nuance an argument to something you did not say.' I simply reacted to what you said.

Your initial reaction was in response to what I said but then you tried to nuance away from that by monologuing about liking your own opinion. So, what is your reaction? It's tantamount to "them are fighting words" but you didn't want to fight. I said what I said and I stand by it. You don't agree. Noted.

 

[fifaguy]

I know the thought amongst you old folks is Romo should start once healthy. A rookie cant possibly win unless everybody is healthy.....Wait Dak just led the team from behind without 40% of his starting OL, his lead WR. The honest truth is this team is better off with Dak. A QB who isnt going to fold under a middle blitz. A young QB who is healthy, who doesnt have back problems, shoulder problems. Its time to turn the page, its time to let the present become your future. Dak is already changing plays at the LOS you see how smart the kid really is. You cant coach what he's doing. The guy made losing Dez this week look like Dez is a non factor. Its his time and I just cant see this team going back and putting Romo back at the helm when you have a rookie playing this good. You let Romo back him up and collect that money. If Dak get hurts you have a very good QB to back him up. This is Daks team now, fans are just going to have to get used to it. I dont get the whole Romo cry, fans criticize this team so much for not drafting a QB because Romo is injury prone. But They did and Romo got hurt, but the same people are begging for Romo to be the starter again.

I'm old folks but am with you on this 100%. The long talked about window of opportunity has pretty much closed and it's time to move forward in another direction.

 

[Idgit]

Your initial reaction was in response to what I said but then you tried to nuance away from that by monologuing about liking your own opinion. So, what is your reaction? It's tantamount to "them are fighting words" but you didn't want to fight. I said what I said and I stand by it. You don't agree. Noted.

I have no idea what you're talking about here, but that's ok.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Dallas is top 10 in scoring defense. How come nobody mentions that when talking about this def? You know what they call them kind of yrds Dallas is allowing in the passing and rushing game? Empty yards

I don't want to minimize the defensive effort. They've been admirable and are a big reason why we are 3-1, but they will eventually be the reason Dak will have to start throwing the ball down the field.

And yes, top ten in scoring defense is great - but it will not refute the fact that Romo or any QB in NFL history has ever overcome a poor Def. Pass rating and if Dak can do that, as I mentioned in another thread he should and will go to the HOF because we will win multiple Super Bowls.