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[Dodger12]

Ok
Let's see how this great defense does against GB in 2 weeks

If they hold GB to 21 or less I will come on and say I was wrong and this is a great defense

If GB scores 27 or more I will expect you to come in and admit that you were wrong and this is a putrid defense

Between 22-26 we will consider it a draw
Deal?

Now don't chicken out on me

You know you and I are on the same spectrum on a lot of issues with this team. But I will say this about the D....they stepped up yesterday when they had to, especially on the final drive. We've seen all too often where Romo takes us down the field for the go-ahead score only to have the D fold. No matter how little time was left, no matter who we played, no matter which back-up QB was facing us, no lead was safe. It's the curse Romo has lived with most of his career.

The next few games will be very telling for our season and the future of the QB position. It's hard not to like what we see from Dak. If we pull out a couple of wins against Cincy, GB or Philly, this team might be for real in terms of playoff caliber.

 

[zrinkill]

Dumb thread after dumb thread.

Jeebus people.

 

[AsthmaField]

All of this foolishness will stop after Dak has a bad game.

All QB's have bad days (just look at Rogers)... why would that change anything?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Off the top of my head a few things that really impress me about Dak:

1. He has no problem standing in the pocket, but he's also good at avoiding the hit. Like I said with Wentz...it's fun to romanticize the QB that hangs in there and gets blasted and still makes the throw, but the reality is that those QB's don't last that long. Guys like Brady and Peyton and Brees are able to hang in there, make the throw and still dodge the defender.


2. I have yet to see him make a bad decision of throwing across his body.


3. The speed of the game isn't too fast for him. He's still learning to anticipate at an NFL level, but the overall speed isn't an issue.


4. He hasn't fumbled either.


5. I thought he struggled with his mechanics in the first half. Second half he corrected whatever the issue was and was locating the ball much better.


There's still some things I'd like to see like him getting more comfortable under center, him learning to do play action from under center because it can be a back breaker in this offense and just generally getting better at anticipating and throwing the deep ball. But, so far he has far exceeded expectations.




YR

 

[RS12]

Do I think Romo is the starter when he is ready? Yep

Do I think he gives them the the best chance to win? Not necessarily.

Why you ask? I saw him play last year and for the most part it wasnt pretty. I dont have a nostolgic view of number 9. I need to see way better than I saw last year. And before you start with 2014, thats a lifetime ago in the NFL.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Ok
Let's see how this great defense does against GB in 2 weeks

If they hold GB to 21 or less I will come on and say I was wrong and this is a great defense

If GB scores 27 or more I will expect you to come in and admit that you were wrong and this is a putrid defense

Between 22-26 we will consider it a draw
Deal?

Now don't chicken out on me

Why on earth is that the bar though? They have to hold GB to 21? I'm not saying its a great defense. I'm saying take a wait and see approach because through 4 weeks they haven't been nearly as bad as advertised.

This is the thing.....you never know how bad or good your team is until you watch other teams play. And watching other teams play......this defense isn't the best but not the worst either.

I have no problem saying they suck on defense. Like Michael brought up, KC gave up 40 so are they terrible? You can't just look at stats and see replays and try and dictate how bad someone is.

I'm not fooled by this defense. To be honest, I think they are ok if they get a pass rush. I don't know what impact Lawrence will have but it can't be worse than what they have out there now.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Do I think Romo is the starter when he is ready? Yep

Do I think he gives them the the best chance to win? Not necessarily.

Why you ask? I saw him play last year and for the most part it wasnt pretty. I dont have a nostolgic view of number 9. I need to see way better than I saw last year. And before you start with 2014, thats a lifetime ago in the NFL.

He never got to get in a groove last year though. Remember how he came back in 2014? He had like 4 picks in that San Fran game and I thought his career was over. That was arguably his best year of his career even with throwing all those picks in that 1st game. He's gonna need a rust game to get back on track.......last season I don't think we got a chance to see that.

I'm concerned about what Romo we get because I don't think we have a few games to wait for him to get back to normal and that's if he goes back to how he was two years ago.

 

[visionary]

I think if they gave up 50+ that would be putrid.

KC doesn't have a putrid defense and they got wacked for 40+ last night.

GB has a heck of an offense... If the Cowboy defense gave up 28, I'd be pleased.

Well we were discussing playoff caliber teams
If we're going to give up 28 to those teams we really don't have a shot of winning with Dak this year

The defense is absolutely terrible
If not for Blaine Gabbert the game yesterday would have been over

 

[DFWJC]

in 2014 everybody had this same attitude for Murray, hes doing good but wait til he gets hurt. he had 1800 yrds

Actually, I think you specifically said Romo stunk before the 2014 season...that it was time to move.
Then he only became the first QB the lead the league in QB rating in the both the regular and post-season in the same season.

Just saying, you've been in that camp plenty yourself.

Having said that, Dak DOES deserve huge credit for what he's doing so far.
We should all be excited.

 

[visionary]

Why on earth is that the bar though? They have to hold GB to 21? I'm not saying its a great defense. I'm saying take a wait and see approach because through 4 weeks they haven't been nearly as bad as advertised.

This is the thing.....you never know how bad or good your team is until you watch other teams play. And watching other teams play......this defense isn't the best but not the worst either.

I have no problem saying they suck on defense. Like Michael brought up, KC gave up 40 so are they terrible? You can't just look at stats and see replays and try and dictate how bad someone is.

I'm not fooled by this defense. To be honest, I think they are ok if they get a pass rush. I don't know what impact Lawrence will have but it can't be worse than what they have out there now.

I set those targets mostly because I think it is reasonable to expect a Dak led offense to score 21 against GB but unlikely they would score 28

the strawman of 40 or 50 points is laughable just reflective of how little faith you (and Michael) have in the defense

Thank you for making my point

 

[TwoCentPlain]

All this beating up of the defense... Again they played competently. The secondary is really coming on and they only gave up 3.7 ypc against the Niners.

I thought I saw a stat where the defense has been pretty good against the run. They are getting gashed here and there but so is every team in the league.

On a related side note, that vaunted Carolina defense is getting absolutely destroyed so far. They can't stop the run or pass.

 

[JoeKing]

Whatever you sit on the Dak----Romo spectrum, posts like this are just gross.

You just wait and see how this plays out. Dak wins out to the Bye week. Philly game after the bye, Romo's hyped big return... only it won't be so great. He's going to crumble under the pressure and Garrett will have a decision to make. Let Dak save the day or take another divisional game loss. IMO, Garrett and Mr Jones will be the last people to admit the Romo era is over so... we'll take the loss. The following 3 weeks we have a series of NFC North games... Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore. If Romo can't get us a win versus the Browns, he's done. Pittsburgh... this is the game where it happens. Romo will take yet another hit that takes him out of the game... Dak may or may not save the day that week depending on how bad of a situation Romo hands him. Romo doesn't even answer the bell to play Baltimore. The Dak era officially begins that week. Book it.

 

[JoeKing]

You should lose the urge to post anymore.

You should lose the urge to kiss Romo's feet.

 

[Idgit]

You just wait and see how this plays out. Dak wins out to the Bye week. Philly game after the bye, Romo's hyped big return... only it won't be so great. He's going to crumble under the pressure and Garrett will have a decision to make. Let Dak save the day or take another divisional game loss. IMO, Garrett and Mr Jones will be the last people to admit the Romo era is over so... we'll take the loss. The following 3 weeks we have a series of NFC North games... Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore. If Romo can't get us a win versus the Browns, he's done. Pittsburgh... this is the game where it happens. Romo will take yet another hit that takes him out of the game... Dak may or may not save the day that week depending on how bad of a situation Romo hands him. Romo doesn't even answer the bell to play Baltimore. The Dak era officially begins that week. Book it.

It doesn't matter how it plays out. Perhaps your wild-*** guess is right. It's probably not, but even if it is, the attitude in that post from any Cowboys fan was just gross.

 

[JoeKing]

It doesn't matter how it plays out. Perhaps your wild-*** guess is right. It's probably not, but even if it is, the attitude in that post from any Cowboys fan was just gross.

Why? Romo isn't special. He's in the same category as Danny White.

 

[LatinMind]

I don't think Dez is selfish. He's genuinely happy for his teammates when they produce at the expense of his own production. I think he's just historically stupid. He responds poorly to any sign of adversity.

im not saying he's not happy for his teammates. MY rerason for his being a me player is because of his actions this past week not going in til wed, reports coming out the Cowboys and his agent have been trying to get him to prioritize his life. Him missing atleaat 20 meetings this yr. Im glad this team showed they can win without him.

 

[Idgit]

Why? Romo isn't special. He's in the same category as Danny White.

Meh. I don't feel like explaining it, because that's going to beget an exchange where your try to defend it. If you really think Tony Romo is 'scared' 'a chicken' and a 'scared old man,' I won't spend the time disabusing you of those notions. And I don't want to legitimize any discussion on the topic by actually engaging it.

I think it's really poor form for any Cowboys fan given Tony's ability, commitment, and his overall level of play his entire career in Dallas. I also think you're way, way out on a limb of your own making with the stance you're taking. It would be better just to be really happy about Dak and prefer him to Tony. But that's just my $.02.

 

[LatinMind]

I formally enjoyed LM posts, but now it the same stale takes posted 20 times during the week--Romo should start over Dak, Dez is horrble person...

its ok, i dont need a cheering crowd. If that gets to you you better not read my posts if this team looks bad. Im no homer but i love it when i see something good. If you cant enjoy what ur seeing then i dont know what u want to see. i suggest just move on when you see my posts if its not enjoyable.

 

[LatinMind]

Dak was far from perfect but if you look closely on two specific passes that sailed on the right side, there was an underneath defender directly in front of the target. Now that's a difficult nfl throw to fit in which requires tremendous touch. I think Dak was just being cautious trying to avoid the underneath DB.

Its funny that people want to point out them passes but ignore the perfectly placed td throws he made. Saw the CB was there for the td pass to TW so he threw it to TWs inside shoulder where he would be the only one able to catch it. And the one to Butler where there was a DL right in his face he flung a bullet to the outside shoulder of Butler where again he was the only one who could get it. Think people are trying to find stuff to not give his dak his credit

 

[LatinMind]

Meh. I don't feel like explaining it, because that's going to beget an exchange where your try to defend it. If you really think Tony Romo is 'scared' 'a chicken' and a 'scared old man,' I won't spend the time disabusing you of those notions. And I don't want to legitimize any discussion on the topic by actually engaging it.

I think it's really poor form for any Cowboys fan given Tony's ability, commitment, and his overall level of play his entire career in Dallas. I also think you're way, way out on a limb of your own making with the stance you're taking. It would be better just to be really happy about Dak and prefer him to Tony. But that's just my $.02.

Romo was a great QB. BUt his body just cant take the hits anymore. Sorry but putting the team on the shoulders of a QB who has a bad shoulder and bad back is just ridiculous. That last hit to SEA wasnt anything like the hits last yr but it broke.