My Thoughts on Dak's contract

Hadenough

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Dak has hit his ceiling, he's nothing more than a bus driver that has to have an elite team around him.
That's a BIG problem because even if Dallas wanted to keep Dak you just cant pay an avg QB top 5 money. People say well what about Wentz and Goff. Those teams made mistakes and those guys aren't worth what they are getting either.
 

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why you allow posters such as Willie B and Pappy and Matt James and the others that literally hate dak get to you is beyond me. those with football accumenn know that He isnt the main issue with this team. Hes not without fault but hes down the list of concerns. They're just trolling you because they know you love the guy.

Once he signs and he will just put the big smiley face emoji up and enjoy the meltdown

Sure why allow us to have an opinion that doesn't follow yours and the rest of the Dak-Zoids here that everyone is at fault when our offense and team cannot produce EXCEPT Dak!
How could this be???
OMG ??? There are Cowboy fans who think Dak is a DUD????
And growing WEEKLY!!
Why don't you have Dak shut us up!!!
WHY can't he?
I rest my case.
 

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No. Paying an average QB lite money is a poor strategy. If you have to have a top 5 OL, WR, RB to make your offense work and still struggle on offense, then your QB is over rated.
Except that only works if you can specifically attribute it all to just one person. Can you? Has thr oline been playing like a top 5 ol? Has our wrs and rbs been playing top 5 in the league? Careful bias is showing and not objectivity.
 

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Except that only works if you can specifically attribute it all to just one person. Can you? Has thr oline been playing like a top 5 ol? Has our wrs and rbs been playing top 5 in the league? Careful bias is showing and not objectivity.

Our OL has. Given up the least amount if sacks in the league and top five in least amount of QB hits, while Dak is leading the league in passing attempts and our passing routes are long developing.
 

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Its really not unless youre playing for the Cowboys. Dallas is gong to take care of their QB. They did this kind of thing with Romo his whole career which is why Romo had only 1 yr over 10mil in his career and that was after he retired.

Over $10M in what, base salary?

Vast majority of teams take care of their QBs if they are quality players.
 

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Our OL has. Given up the least amount if sacks in the league and top five in least amount of QB hits, while Dak is leading the league in passing attempts and our passing routes are long developing.
That's one part of a TEAM game. And all season if thr offense is good, defense is bad. If the defense is good offense is bad. And special teams is always hell. This entire team needs to lay the 6-7 at their feet. It's ridiculous to try and blame it all on one player.
 

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Sure why allow us to have an opinion that doesn't follow yours and the rest of the Dak-Zoids here that everyone is at fault when our offense and team cannot produce EXCEPT Dak!
How could this be???
OMG ??? There are Cowboy fans who think Dak is a DUD????
And growing WEEKLY!!
Why don't you have Dak shut us up!!!
WHY can't he?
I rest my case.
Throwing out the fishing rod again troll?
 

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We should be worried. Dak has shown he is not the type of QB who can without top shelf talent around him, which is fine, not many QB's are in that tier. But those that can are the one's who deserve top money. When you give all this money to Dak, you can't give it to others, you can't put the pieces around him he needs to excel.

Of course it could all just be on coaching. Hopefully we find out soon. I'm all for tagging him this off-season and seeing what next year brings.
I think these last couple years were finding out what Dak is about. He was a breath of fresh air his first season while having an easy schedule but defenses have adjusted to his play. He no longer is running and defenses play press man coverage and have taken away the short passing game. They give Dak the mid range and long passes and he cant beat them on a consistent basis. His 3 and out streaks are killing this team. He throws way too many balls behind the WR and when pressure and unable to step into the pass his arm weakness is evident. Dak isnt the biggest problem with the Cowboys but he is a problem.
 

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Our ol has become what the Miami dolphins ol line was under Marino, they could pass block, but sucked at run blocking. That's how our ol has become. That's not a complete ol. Which kills the team
Our OL has. Given up the least amount if sacks in the league and top five in least amount of QB hits, while Dak is leading the league in passing attempts and our passing routes are long developing.
 

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The past 2 games Elliot has been killing defenses on the opening drive, and the teams has abandoned the run right after. Its not about forcing the run, its about not running at all. I can only think that maybe some of you dont comprehend one from the other.
This is only half true. They didn't abandon the run against Chicago until they got down, same as Buffalo.

Also have to understand that those defenses are lining up to stop the run. You should never run the ball into a negative front, ever. That's what both defenses - and most who play the Cowboys - do when it's a close game.
 

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Except that only works if you can specifically attribute it all to just one person. Can you? Has thr oline been playing like a top 5 ol? Has our wrs and rbs been playing top 5 in the league? Careful bias is showing and not objectivity.


if our quarterback cannot win without the absolute best offensive line the best wide receiver in the best running back in only the best circumstances then why would you ever pay him like a top 10 quarterback that doesn't make any sense. When you go and you look at really good teams that have great quarterback play they really make up for some deficiencies in the offensive line deficiencies at wide receiver deficiencies at running back and if our quarterback can't do that then why are we paying him so much money cuz he's not that good. the entire reason you pay quarterbacks so much money is because they make up for those things when everything's not perfect.
 

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Our ol has become what the Miami dolphins ol line was under Marino, they could pass block, but sucked at run blocking. That's how our ol has become. That's not a complete ol. Which kills the team

They are ranked top three in run blocking. They’ve been completely abandoning the run in the red zone, but that is more play calling than anything else.
 

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This is only half true. They didn't abandon the run against Chicago until they got down, same as Buffalo.

Also have to understand that those defenses are lining up to stop the run. You should never run the ball into a negative front, ever. That's what both defenses - and most who play the Cowboys - do when it's a close game.
half true?

After the first drive Elliot had 5 carries the rest of the first half.
 

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half true?

After the first drive Elliot had 5 carries the rest of the first half.
They only ran 13 more plays...Those 5 carries went for 1-1-31-4-2.

But again, the issue isn't number of runs, it's when they run. Those first two one-yard runs were on first down, against loaded fronts. You can't do that because it puts you behind the sticks, and then you have to throw more.

Balance in today's NFL means calling plays that put your offense in advantageous situations, number of runs vs. passes is irrelevant. With the way that teams play against the Cowboys, they should be throwing the ball about 75% of the time.
 

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They only ran 13 more plays...Those 5 carries went for 1-1-31-4-2.

But again, the issue isn't number of runs, it's when they run. Those first two one-yard runs were on first down, against loaded fronts. You can't do that because it puts you behind the sticks, and then you have to throw more.

Balance in today's NFL means calling plays that put your offense in advantageous situations, number of runs vs. passes is irrelevant. With the way that teams play against the Cowboys, they should be throwing the ball about 75% of the time.

Thanks for proving my point. They dont give the run a chance. Or they just dont know any better.
 

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Thanks for proving my point. They dont give the run a chance. Or they just dont know any better.
No, I am not proving your point. Giving the run a chance should not exist in the NFL.

What exists for effective offenses is taking advantage of the defensive alignment. Committing to the run for the sake of committing to the run is a death sentence.

If a team is playing 8 in the box (or 7 against 11 personnel) every snap, you should almost never hand the ball off.

Running on 1st and 10 or, even worse, 2nd and 10, with the goal of establishing the run is the worst offensive strategy in football. Dallas does that in spades.
 
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