My Vastly Different Take on the Romo INT

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The one thing I will say in defense of Williams, though I agree its his fault, is he saw that the CB was breaking on the slant and tried to make a play. Obviously you can't do that, but its almost the exact same read that Dez made on a slant against I think Cinci that went for a big play. If Tony sees that, its an easy TD.

He has to know that there is going to be pressure whatever, but I dont think it was as much a massive mistake as it was him not being on the same page with Tony.
 

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I think that's Monday morning QBing at its finest.

It's typical rookie growing pains. He'll learn from it.

Yep. This is a blessing in disguise. Your talented rookie WR learns a hard lesson that he will most assuredly never forget in front of the entire football watching world and it doesn't cost you the game. You can't buy that kind of training.

What I like is Romo went back to Williams multiple times to let the rook know he still has confidence in him.
 

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All I know is that on 3rd and 11, And I am Romo. I am looking for a Witten, Austin, or Bryant. Or, I am throwing it away.
 

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He also has to protect the field goal, even if they don't catch it for the TD.
 

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Because we let defenses dictate our offense. It would work better with more tempo and a better running game but when you do neither you're kind of just hoping you can dink and dunk your way to a TD without a drive stalling or committing a bunch of penalties.

Found ths article on when Cameron, whose style resembles Garrett's, was fired by the Ravens after the Commanders game:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...arterbacks-coach-ravens-owner-steve-bisciotti

A lot of it was Cameron’s fault. The running game was basic composed of mostly stretch plays. The passing game wasn’t sophisticated . There weren’t a lot of rubs, crossing patterns, motion or a variety of sets. The Ravens seldom attacked the middle of the field and Cameron didn’t have a feel for games. He ran when he should have passed and passed when he should have run.
 

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Bottom line is Romo has to stop changing the play or route, and if he does he shouldn't be looking to a guy who might not know what he is doing in the first place let alone what an audible should be...........of course you could also look at it as the coaching staff should not have a guy in the game in the first place if he doesn't really understand what he is doing.
On a good note, I would rather see the trial and error happen in a win rather than happen in a loss.
 

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Found ths article on when Cameron, whose style resembles Garrett's, was fired by the Ravens after the Commanders game:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...arterbacks-coach-ravens-owner-steve-bisciotti


And they went on to win the Superbowl when they fired him.

It's just a crap scheme and I hate it. Too late now though.
 

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How dare anyone even consider anything is Romo's fault. Nothing more disgusting than a die-hard Romo fan boy who is so insecure they have to bash anyone who points out, or in the OP's case, even questions a Romo fault. I get that some of us are tired of the senseless Romo bashing, but there was nothing senseless about the OP.

Good and valid question, OP.

I agree with those that say it's on the coaches. Harris should have started #3. And when I think back to the forced use of Dez in the 2010 opener, I can't help but wonder how much T. Williams was forced on the coaches.
 

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How dare anyone even consider anything is Romo's fault. Nothing more disgusting than a die-hard Romo fan boy who is so insecure they have to bash anyone who points out, or in the OP's case, even questions a Romo fault. I get that some of us are tired of the senseless Romo bashing, but there was nothing senseless about the OP.

Good and valid question, OP.

I agree with those that say it's on the coaches. Harris should have started #3. And when I think back to the forced use of Dez in the 2010 opener, I can't help but wonder how much T. Williams was forced on the coaches.

Has nothing to do with Romo other than that was not on him. Romo did have some passes that could have been picked and would have been on him. He fired one to Dez with 3 defenders around him not a wise move on Tony part. This has nothing to do with protecting a player it has to do with on this play the fault lied with a rookie WR. As far as Harris goes he was in the game as well so it is not like Harris did not play, Williams too will play and will learn. Williams did have a couple of important catches on the night.
 

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He played well and managed the game well overall.

I agreed with everything you said until this...

Seriously they need to strip Romo's audible privileges, it seems every time he flips the script something either goes wrong or the play completely fails..
 

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I agreed with everything you said until this...

Seriously they need to strip Romo's audible privileges, it seems every time he flips the script something either goes wrong or the play completely fails..

Being able to read the defense at the line of scrimmage and call the play based on the coverage is a huge advantage for any QB/team. We're very lucky to have a QB capable of doing that.
 

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The one thing I will say in defense of Williams, though I agree its his fault, is he saw that the CB was breaking on the slant and tried to make a play. Obviously you can't do that, but its almost the exact same read that Dez made on a slant against I think Cinci that went for a big play. If Tony sees that, its an easy TD.

He has to know that there is going to be pressure whatever, but I dont think it was as much a massive mistake as it was him not being on the same page with Tony.

Watch the play again, a double move becomes offensive pass interference as Witten and Austin are blocking defenders with the pass in the air. Also wouldn't be a TD since there was a safety over the top (the guy that caught the INT).

Based on CB behavior, he breaks on the ball coming at him, not the WR's route. The CB had an outside shade/gave up the inside, then the receiver gave up the inside to go outside. So a pass over the top isn't open given the CB's outside shade/WR not trying to take the outside and would be another good chance at an interception. I also think the WR's route might have been more in-breaking than a slant given the use and position of the blockers (otherwise why block?), but I can't tell from the TV's angles.

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so you are blaming Romo for the int because the slant pass would not have gotten the first anyways. I think there is a difference.

The int itself was on Williams, a QB has to be able to trust his WR to run the right route and Williams didn't. They will get it right, just takes time and experience.

If you are saying throwing that short 5 yard pass play would of been a bad decision because it would not have gotten a first down, well every QB I know does that from time to time and I would like to say that it was the last option available for Romo and all those other QBs who throw short on 3rd down. We do not really know if he wouldn't have gained enough yardage after the catch.
 

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...If you are saying throwing that short 5 yard pass play would of been a bad decision because it would not have gotten a first down, well every QB I know does that from time to time and I would like to say that it was the last option available for Romo and all those other QBs who throw short on 3rd down. We do not really know if he wouldn't have gained enough yardage after the catch.

Go back and watch the play. There is NO way that was Romo's last option on that play. You could tell Romo most likely called the audible for the slant and Williams was his first read (maybe only read) on the play. There was no hesitation at all and Romo forced the ball under no pressure. Also, pre-snap there is no way a QB could look at the way the CB was playing the WR along with other defenders in the area on that particular play and decide on a 5 yd slant on 3rd and 11. Williams would have had to make a catch with the CB draped on him and break two or three tackles to get the additional 6 yards.

It was a horrible play call/audible and bad decision to throw the ball based on the down and distance and location and time of the game. It doesn't absolve Williams from not continuing the route. Like I said, there is a bigger issue with that play than Williams breaking off his route. The best that play could have yielded was a 5 yard gain and 4th down. That's the best that play could have offered. It's not like we needed to get closer for a FG. Bad call by the QB further compounded by bad execution on both the WR and QB.
 

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I know you're supposed to take each play at a time, but watching that game, I wouldn't be surprised if mistakes on defense were because of T-Will, he stunk up the joint lol
 

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Watch the play again, a double move becomes offensive pass interference as Witten and Austin are blocking defenders with the pass in the air. Also wouldn't be a TD since there was a safety over the top (the guy that caught the INT).

Based on CB behavior, he breaks on the ball coming at him, not the WR's route. The CB had an outside shade/gave up the inside, then the receiver gave up the inside to go outside. So a pass over the top isn't open given the CB's outside shade/WR not trying to take the outside and would be another good chance at an interception. I also think the WR's route might have been more in-breaking than a slant given the use and position of the blockers (otherwise why block?), but I can't tell from the TV's angles.

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Man based on that video it sure seem's like we had a lot of receivers in the same area.........maybe they were all running the run routes...
 
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