NBC: Wade Phillips says Jerry Jones was “good to me”

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Good Guy. Great DC. Awful HC.

 

[SlammedZero]

Great coach esp DC but more importantly a great human being. Love this guy.

Same here. I was really glad he finally got a ring, even if it was as a coordinator.


Wade gets a lot of hate here, and I get some of it, but really, the guy has as many playoff wins as Garrett (as a HC) and did it in a shorter time frame. To be honest, even though we flamed out in the end, 2007 was a really fun season to watch. It was the first taste of "success" this team had experienced in a long time and Wade brought it.

 

[Idgit]

He inherited a 9-7 team that hadn't won a playoff game in forever so you are really stretching that fact about as far as it can be stretched... or however far one single regular season game can be stretched.

You mean that team Wade inherited from Parcells? That was a good squad. Not a stretch at all to say that was a good team.

And I'm not knocking Wade. I was among the very few that thought he needed to be given a chance when he got here. Everybody else was up in arms about Dallas hiring a 3 time re-tread. He did well in 2007, kept things stable for a while, and then gradually lost control of the team as talent left and he was unable to replace it. Just take a look at those draft classes and it's not hard to see what took them from 13-3 to 1-7.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Good Guy. Great DC. Awful HC.

Close. Was a decent head coach - not great, but never a losing record and a number of playoff appearances as I recall - before he got to Dallas.

He was only awful in Dallas. Exactly what the team didn't need. Managed to erode the culture of discipline and team unity that Parcells had instilled to the point that everyone was turning on each other before they all ultimately turned on him. I'm surprised he claims such a positive experience in Dallas. From a professional standpoint it was a disaster.

 

[Aven8]

You mean that team Wade inherited from Parcells? That was a good squad. Not a stretch at all to say that was a good team.

And I'm not knocking Wade. I was among the very few that thought he needed to be given a chance when he got here. Everybody else was up in arms about Dallas hiring a 3 time re-tread. He did well in 2007, kept things stable for a while, and then gradually lost control of the team as talent left and he was unable to replace it. Just take a look at those draft classes and it's not hard to see what took them from 13-3 to 1-7.

Wades problem was he was pretty decent at cooking, it was finding the groceries where he suffered. To steal a line from Big Bill!

 

[Zman5]

You mean that team Wade inherited from Parcells? That was a good squad. Not a stretch at all to say that was a good team.

And I'm not knocking Wade. I was among the very few that thought he needed to be given a chance when he got here. Everybody else was up in arms about Dallas hiring a 3 time re-tread. He did well in 2007, kept things stable for a while, and then gradually lost control of the team as talent left and he was unable to replace it. Just take a look at those draft classes and it's not hard to see what took them from 13-3 to 1-7.

The team JG inherited was a good squad also. They won a playoff game the year before and had Romo, Witten and DWare in their prime and Lee and Dez as rookies. The reason they were a "losing" team when Wade got fired was Romo was injured and Wade was handicapped by an imcompetent OC in training.

 

[Jerryrage]

jerry was good to him.

garret on the other hand...







RIP MCA

LMAO - You have no idea how deep the story goes. It was so bad..

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

"Yea, just don't ask me about 2010"

 

[Idgit]

The team JG inherited was a good squad also. They won a playoff game the year before and had Romo, Witten and DWare in their prime and Lee and Dez as rookies. The reason they were a "losing" team when Wade got fired was Romo was injured and Wade was handicapped by an imcompetent OC in training.

It really wasn't. They had pieces, sure, but it wasn't a good team. Dez was talented, but he was pretty clueless as a rookie (45 receptions, 561 yards). The OL and running game was old (they replaced Barber, Colombo, Gurode, and Leondard Davis after that season). They were 1-5 in games that Romo played, by the way. His injury wasn't the reason why Wade was losing.

As for the incompetent OC, they were 11th in offensive points/series under Garrett in 2010. The playoff team the year before? 13th.

Wade just lost that team. Then Romo went down. Then they got blown out badly by GB, and they went to the coach in waiting.

 

[Idgit]

Wades problem was he was pretty decent at cooking, it was finding the groceries where he suffered. To steal a line from Big Bill!

I think that was his deal, too. Even in Buffalo and Denver, he had a decent record as a head coach. But the drafting really did suffer during those years between Parcells and Garrett.

 

[DiResta]

Great coach esp DC but more importantly a great human being. Love this guy.

he also just post this

 

[dogunwo]

I don't bet in games where my team plays, but if I did, I would be going heavy on the Rams this week against the spread. I don't think we win and if we do, we won't cover.

 

[Zman5]

It really wasn't. They had pieces, sure, but it wasn't a good team. Dez was talented, but he was pretty clueless as a rookie (45 receptions, 561 yards). The OL and running game was old (they replaced Barber, Colombo, Gurode, and Leondard Davis after that season). They were 1-5 in games that Romo played, by the way. His injury wasn't the reason why Wade was losing.

As for the incompetent OC, they were 11th in offensive points/series under Garrett in 2010. The playoff team the year before? 13th.

Wade just lost that team. Then Romo went down. Then they got blown out badly by GB, and they went to the coach in waiting.

According to NFL.com, Dallas' offensive ranking in 2009 was #2 not #13th. The defensive ranking was #9. The team JG inherited was a playoff winning team the year before and some even picked it as a team to represent the NFC in the SB. It wasn't the Browns like you are trying to make it out to be.

 

[haleyrules]

Wade's a really good coordinator. And he's a moderately successful head coach. We're not the only team in the league to fire him from a HC gig, though.

No matter how you look at it, Wade inherited a winning team and left a losing one. Jason inherited a losing team and built a winning one.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Let's say the Cowboys hire Norv Turner instead of Wade in 2007. Norv is pretty much the offensive equivalent to Wade. How much better/worse do the Cowboys end up being over the next 4 years? The same? They went with Wade because of his experience with 3-4 defenses but I wonder about Norv when it comes to Romo's development during those years. Obviously Romo still put up great numbers but I wonder if he could have achieved an even greater level under Norv than Garrett.

 

[haleyrules]

Wade's a really good coordinator. And he's a moderately successful head coach. We're not the only team in the league to fire him from a HC gig, though.

No matter how you look at it, Wade inherited a winning team and left a losing one. Jason inherited a losing team and built a winning one.

OK. But, I seem to recall, that ole Red was a big part of that losing squad??? I believe he may have been the Offensive Coordinator!! HAHAHAHAH!!

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There's something about Wade I can't quite put my fingers on. Great coordinator, no question but he's always had eyes set on a head coaching position, even dating back to his time with the Falcons. Ever notice, to be such good coordinator he never stayed with any head coach longer than 3 years. It's like for whatever reason, he wears out his welcome after three years or so. Hell, he was out of work a bit before the Broncos hired him. Just his inability to keep a coordinate job with one coach is a bit odd..........

 

[visionary]

The team JG inherited was a good squad also. They won a playoff game the year before and had Romo, Witten and DWare in their prime and Lee and Dez as rookies. The reason they were a "losing" team when Wade got fired was Romo was injured and Wade was handicapped by an imcompetent OC in training.

This is a fact that Garrett apologists conveniently ignore

 

[yimyammer]

I see Wade Phillips. I think cupcakes.

 

[Idgit]

According to NFL.com, Dallas' offensive ranking in 2009 was #2 not #13th. The defensive ranking was #9. The team JG inherited was a playoff winning team the year before and some even picked it as a team to represent the NFC in the SB. It wasn't the Browns like you are trying to make it out to be.

As I said, I measure based on points/ offensive series. That #2/#9 ranking is based on what? Yards? Points?

And an offseason is a lifetime in the NFL. Teams turnover 25-30% of their rosters. Veterans get older. And that 2009 team was the one that completely collapsed in MIN. Which is what triggered the dismantling of the OL in that 2011 offseason.

The 1-7 is a much better measure of where that team was at. Playoff rosters don't earn 1-7 when everybody is healthy.