Neat info on Wade Phillips

[bbgun]

Well, you know what they say: "Spare the rod, spoil the Sacamano."

 

[adbutcher]

Well, you know what they say: "Spare the rod, spoil the Sacamano."

:laugh2:

 

[WV Cowboy]

When discussing disciplining kids, I wouldn't ask if you have kids, but if you have grown kids, adult kids, (finished products) .. where you can see the results of your manner of discipline as they grew up.

Maybe what you are doing is right, maybe it is wrong.

My two sons were quite different to raise, and to discipline. One is now 32 and the other is 26. I couldn't be prouder of both of them, and we are all three best friends.

Over the years we had issues with grades, chores, curfew, alcohol, money, but never any issues with disrespect.

My father spanked my butt when needed, with his open hand, and always on my butt only.

So that is how I disciplined my boys. I also would flip their earlob on occasion and maybe give the muscle between their shoulder and neck a little extra squeeze to get their attention. I can also remember squeezing their upper arm under their armpit and moving them in the direction I wanted them to go. None of these things are painful or abusive but they let the child know who is in charge.

It was different for me at school as I got paddled in every grade except 5th.(I was in love with my teacher and never wanted to disappoint her)

I got paddled so much and so often in grades 7-9 that it almost lost all meaning. But that stopped when I entered high school, I never got paddled in grades 10-12. I didn't get any better, they just stopped paddling in those grades.

But I am thankful for those paddlings, because I was very ornary and they kept me in line. If I knew that they had no recourse of discipline against me like in schools today, it is no wonder what I would have done or what I may have turned out to be.

I know that the paddling that got my attention the most and scared me the most was one that I didn't get, but one I watched another boy get.

He got 3 whacks, each one lifted him off the ground, scooted several and knocked over a couple of desks.

Scared me to death, .. that teacher got my attention and I never did ANYTHING in his class the rest of the year.

But I agree with those here saying that there is no need to use a paddle or anything else for that matter when discipling you children.

I firmly believe in disciplining your children, but not with paddles or anything.

My ingredients for this was pour on the love, and sprinkle on the discipline.
Discipline quickly, immediately, and then go back to pouring on the love.
I could smack one of my boys, and then two minutes later he might be sitting on my lap watching TV as we wipe away tears.

 

[Hoofbite]

these are the kinds of studies that prove absolutely nothing....

the exact bleeding heart equivalent of think tank studies....

a group funds studies and ... shockingly ... ends up producing the results they were seeking all along!!!

both of my kids have been spanked and both are straight A students.
i was spanked fairly routinely and graduated with high honors, 8th in my class.


kids who are less bright tend do more things that are less bright probably leading to more punishment. that isn't exactly a shocker!

and 2.8 points in IQ is statistically irrelevant. compare how those students fared in college and that may actually hold some water.

I agree. Not a lot of valuable info in that study. Number of different factors could be responsible.

 

[jterrell]

LMAO! You, too? The worst paddling I ever got was for starting the grass on fire in the backyard. We were cold (winter) and decided we'd warm up. My cousin got some matches from the kitchen and we all huddled around one spot in the backyard. Well, the wind picked up and the rest is history. Amazingly, I never did that again, lol!

Mine was from my mom for throwing a wiffle ball at her.

Wasn't my brightest move and I took a pretty good belt-whipping for that.

 

[jterrell]

Perfectly stated.

Some are acting as if you wake up in the morning get your daily beating then go about your business, lol.

My dad only spanked me twice and my mother was the one that routinely corrected me and even then it wasn't the 3 times a week, like the nonsense that was quoted in the bogus agenda laced IQ/Spanking study. I would go months without a spanking, then incidents like burning up a back yard would occur and a good stern talking to just was not going to cut it. As a rule of thumb, if a fire truck is involved somebody is going to get a whipping, lol.

you are both on point.
i have never spanked my kids with any real force.

it is more about them getting their feelings hurt knowing they were really wrong than anything. a simple swat when they cross a line that shouldn't be crossed suffices. usually when one hits the other and can't get them to plea bargain away from telling, lol.

i have girls tho... if i had a boy and he hit puberty he'd prolly earn at least a belt whipping.

 

[jterrell]

Sorry, but this conclusion is hilarious:

No matter where you live, if you spank your child, you risk lowering his or her intelligence (or IQ). That’s according to new research presented on Friday at an international conference.​

What that study says is that smarter people, on average, don't spank their children as much. Not that spanking stunts intellect.

I spank my kids when appropriate, and only with my hand. I've deemed circumstances appropriate probably three or four times in their lives.

That said, I don't see why superpunk not having kids invalidates his opinion on the matter in any way. Is there something about actually having children that makes us want to spank them more? Yes, because kids are annoying. Is there something about having children that makes spanking them more appropriate? Not at all.

This is akin to telling my my opinion on abortion isn't relevant because I don't have a uterus or that SLATE shouldn't talk football because he's a wangzta who doesn't know anything about sports.

yes, the study, like most, is flawed....

anyone with kids will take serious umbrage to ANYONE without kids telling them ANYTHING about kids.

it's not because kids are annoying it is because raising kids is a unique experience that encompasses a whole lot and one learns through that process almost daily. those with multiple children will tell each child is unique and they need different types of discipline.

those without kids haven't went through that process or learning and thus should keep quiet so sayeth most parents.

political firebomb aside most people who are discussing abortion are doing so from the point of view that says it is wrong at a level that has nothing to do with experience or knowledge but ideologically. fwiw there are a number of people who don't feel strongly one way or the other and try to stay out of that argument because they can't truly experience it.


as most have stated there is certainly a line parents shouldn't cross that makes normal punishment abuse. i would never paddle my kids because i am quite able to spank them if i need to. were i a 100 pound lady raising two large-boned sons by myself i'd probably stick a belt.

personally i am thankful for the punishments i received; i did learn valuable lessons about lines to be crossed and not crossed. my mother's main thing was education and i got spankings for bad grades... as you'd expect i didn't get many bad grades.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

When he was a high school coach he carried a padle to to whip kinds for punishment which was legal then

That's the side of coaches I've never liked. The inner bully pops out. Hitting kids. A real tough guy he must have been.

Kids usually didn't fear the paddle, jut the humiliation.
Speaking of humiliation, the sooner Jerra paddles Wade and firesl him the better.

 

[adbutcher]

That's the side of coaches I've never liked. The inner bully pops out. Hitting kids. A real tough guy he must have been.

Kids usually didn't fear the paddle, jut the humiliation.
Speaking of humiliation, the sooner Jerra paddles Wade and firesl him the better.

It is obvious that going to bed without dinner or sitting in a corner didn't do you any favors.