Negative Town?

[Cowboyz88]

I've been a Cowboys fan for 40+ years, and I will admit, I'm not comfortable with the thought that we'll win out.

I certainly hope we will, but yes, I will say it, the last couple of decades hasn't instilled any confidence.

In the 70s, some of the 80s and certainly the 90s, I along with probably every other Cowboys fan expected to compete for the playoffs and often, for a shot at the SB. Those days are gone.

Again, I love the Cowboys, but now, I get no comfort when Romo, Witten and the gang are lining up to compete for a playoff spot. I just don't, and it's not my fault. I, sadly, keep waiting for the other shoe to fall.

Recent history says it all, and truthfully, how can this defense instill anything but uncertainty? They're just not good, and the Eagles destroyed us on Thanksgiving.

I'm very pleased we've finally broken the 8-8 malaise, and I think the future is bright, assuming we land a young, stud QB to groom.

That said, I still hope things will turn and this will be the year we turn it around, and I'll be there watching like I have for the past 40+ years.

Hoping and praying that this time is different.

 

[Doomsday101]

I've been a Cowboys fan for 40+ years, and I will admit, I'm not comfortable with the thought that we'll win out.

I certainly hope we will, but yes, I will say it, the last couple of decades hasn't instilled any confidence.

In the 70s, some of the 80s and certainly the 90s, I along with probably every other Cowboys fan expected to compete for the playoffs and often, for a shot at the SB. Those days are gone.

Again, I love the Cowboys, but now, I get no comfort when Romo, Witten and the gang are lining compete for a playoff spot. I just don't, and it's not my fault. I, sadly, keep waiting for the other shoe to fall.

Recent history says it all, and truthfully, how can this defense instill anything but uncertainty? They're just not good, and the Eagles destroyed us on Thanksgiving.

I'm very pleased we've finally broken the 8-8 malaise, and I think the future is bright, assuming we land a young, stud QB to groom.

That said, I still hope things will turn and this will be the year we turn it around, and I'll be there watching like I have for the past 40+ years.

Hoping and praying that this time is different.

Screw history. Every year is new season what took place before does not matter at all.

 

[iceberg]

Just me, or did this forum make a turn to negative town this weekend? Man alive. I swear some of you guys think we lost to the bears are the worst team in the NFL and are 9-4 by sure luck.

over the weekend? there are some who have been here longer than me that have been negative since day 1. we win, they're upset. we lose, someone must be fired. week in and week out, they come back in here knowing more than the rest of us meagerlings yet they come back just the same to grace us with their unending knowledge of what of the NFL, it's past, and oddly enough, it's future.

people have gotten onto me for putting so many people on ignore but the people I put there have been shouting the same thing about the cowboys for so many years I know what they're going to say just based off not being able to fully ignore them in vbulletin. there are some I can strongly disagree with who will never see ignore cause they're not a 1 track pony or whatever reason makes sense to me if no one else.

then again, I've just not posted much this year and there could be a ton of reasons for it that have nothing to do with said posters, just me and what I get out of it. I can remember the times I'd sit all night long hitting refresh waiting for a reply just so I could pounce. maybe back then I was the one causing all the trouble and looking for fights and putting mods/friends in bad situations only to set me off they didn't take my side when it was oh so clear I was the one in the right.

wow. that was about what, 15 years of posting history all the way back to DMN and bronco babe?

so yea, I've changed in how I post, what makes me mad (not much anymore) and certainly how I respond, if at all these days. I'd love to come in and write up a post of historic times on how I feel the season has gone but its gotten to the point I can tell you who will reply, what they will say, and the good vs evil epic battle to follow so I just let it go and have a good time watching the games.

not so good when we lose.

the negative people will be negative long after I felt good about something. I just don't care, won't let it change why I care about this team, and I won't let not being the best in the nfl, even after all these prolonged years, make me something I'm not. so I just read some, post less, and work on other projects

 

[dirtycallahan]

Here is a positive trend you can consider;
since a week 4 bye each team that has played the seahawks has lost the following week except the cowboys.

2 teams have won the week after they played the cowboys, the saints and the cardinals.

 

[LandryFan]

Well, my degree in math says I understand probabilities

Those numbers are not cut and dry, it is an independent event and we need dependent events to occur. The 78% looks great and all but not when the other teams around us are near 100%, that is all I was getting at. If we lose to Philly, we will need some help. Other teams are in a much better situation due to tie-breakers and have more room for error.

Congrats on your math degree, Dexter. I don't have a math degree, but I do have extensive training/background in prob/stat and I stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night. Having said that, I'm sure you're more knowledgeable than me when it comes to such things. I'm not trying to put down anyone's opinion/take on the playoff situation, just saying a lot of people act like the probability percentages are based on "opinion".

 

[Cowboyz88]

Screw history. Every year is new season what took place before does not matter at all.

Well clearly, the rational guy in me gets that what happened yesterday, last year, whatever, has no bearing on today, but again, let's just say I'm a bit gun-shy.

But, I certainly have no confidence in the defense, and those saying otherwise, are kidding themselves.

However, if the Raiders can shutout the 9ers (which makes me very happy), I can certainly hope for a Cowboys victory,

 

[LandryFan]

I get that, I think 11 wins just may do it. For Dallas they can't take the time to think about the 3 games ahead of them they need to focus on the next game. Win next week and we sit in the cat birds seat.

With each passing week, the playoff picture should become clearer...with The 'Boys, it seems to get cloudier. This is one crazy year.

 

[rpntex]

This team has made us all schizo. I'm bordering on going ahead and ending it all so I don't have to endure another painful loss, or painting myself blue, climbing on my roof with my Cowboys flag and yelling "Screw the Eagles" at everyone who passes by.

To be fair, there are a great many on this site who didn't need any help from this team.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Just me, or did this forum make a turn to negative town this weekend? Man alive. I swear some of you guys think we lost to the bears are the worst team in the NFL and are 9-4 by sure luck.

I don't think it's negativity as much as the following:

1. We are nearing the time of year where, "win and you are in" has led to past disappointment.
2. Romo is hurt.
3. We lost 2 games where if we had lost only one of them we would not be in such a tight position.
4. It could very well be that we finish 10-6 or 11-5 and STILL miss playoffs.
5. In recent years, going 8-8 and we could have made playoffs, simply by winning one game to make 8-8 into 9-7.


I get the negativity.... But.... We have a shot.... Until we don't!

 

[TrailBlazer]

We're a playoff lock at 12-4. We've got between a ~78% chance of being in with 11 wins, and a ~25% chance of getting in with the various combinations of 10-6 that still exist. Across the board, we're still more likely to be in the playoffs then to be outside looking in. So the overwrought negativity *is* irrational.

11-5 we would need a ton of help. Percy pointed out to me that 78% is not indicative of our chances at 11-5. We'd need Arizona to lose out, or GB to lose 3 of 4, or Detroit, Philly, or Seattle to lose two

or

Seattle to be the only other team to finish 11-5.

It's just not probable. It's not, to use your word, irrational, to be a little upset.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well clearly, the rational guy in me gets that what happened yesterday, last year, whatever, has no bearing on today, but again, let's just say I'm a bit gun-shy.

But, I certainly have no confidence in the defense, and those saying otherwise, are kidding themselves.

However, if the Raiders can shutout the 9ers (which makes me very happy), I can certainly hope for a Cowboys victory,

I get that but I don't think the past effects the players.

 

[Doomsday101]

With each passing week, the playoff picture should become clearer...with The 'Boys, it seems to get cloudier. This is one crazy year.

anytime you control your own fate that is a good thing. Right now Eagles game is the only game they need to concern themselves with. Beat Philly and the road to the post season gets a bit easier

 

[Crown Royal]

People wanted Seattle to "help" us get in. I prefer to think that the Cowboys may be the real deal and will take care of their own business.

In other words, people are worried we can't beat Philadelphia. My opinion is that if we are swept by Philly then maybe we don't deserve the playoffs. Take care of business.

 

[LandryFan]

anytime you control your own fate that is a good thing. Right now Eagles game is the only game they need to concern themselves with. Beat Philly and the road to the post season gets a bit easier

You're right. Take care of business and nothing else matters. Now, if we can just get them to take care of business, we'll be in business...

 

[iceberg]

Well clearly, the rational guy in me gets that what happened yesterday, last year, whatever, has no bearing on today, but again, let's just say I'm a bit gun-shy.

But, I certainly have no confidence in the defense, and those saying otherwise, are kidding themselves.

However, if the Raiders can shutout the 9ers (which makes me very happy), I can certainly hope for a Cowboys victory,

it certainly is easy to see us late in games giving up points like we have recently and not think "oh hell, here we go again". I'd have to say we've all done it especially recently when Chicago lit us up late. however, while I do believe our defense still needs some major improvements, to say they've not improved simply isn't true from my recliner.

how much of that being the offense keeping them off the field more vs. actual improvements cannon fodder for forums. but as a team we've made improvements and each year will continue, I hope, to do so.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're right. Take care of business and nothing else matters. Now, if we can just get them to take care of business, we'll be in business...

I like our chances. Does the Thanksgiving Day game cast doubts? sure it does. I also think having this OL go back and see where they made mistakes and having a fresher Romo and extra time off gives Dallas a legit chance of going to Philly and winning. I don't think Dallas played any where close to their ability in that game, I expect them to do so Sunday Night

 

[CATCH17]

Just me, or did this forum make a turn to negative town this weekend? Man alive. I swear some of you guys think we lost to the bears are the worst team in the NFL and are 9-4 by sure luck.

As Cowboy fans we haven't felt much luck here in awhile.

 

[Alexander]

As Cowboy fans we haven't felt much luck here in awhile.

Still does not appear that luck is favorable. It is extremely aggravating that they finally get over the 8-8 rut and could receive nothing for it. If curses are real, this franchise has it.

 

[Kevinicus]

It's the age old adage: Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. This team has put the fan base through the wringer multiple times, I think it's only natural to be skeptic. Granted, there are some that are over the top negative and they're idiots.

If Seattle wins out, GB won't clinch before week 17.

 

[LandryFan]

I like our chances. Does the Thanksgiving Day game cast doubts? sure it does. I also think having this OL go back and see where they made mistakes and having a fresher Romo and extra time off gives Dallas a legit chance of going to Philly and winning. I don't think Dallas played any where close to their ability in that game, I expect them to do so Sunday Night

Personally, I have a lot of doubt. It's hard to blame all of that beatdown on a short turnaround, although I am certain that had a lot to do with it. I just know how I feel after pulling an "all nighter", which is what the players, in essence, had to do. They're all quite a bit younger than me, but it still had to effect them for that game. I don't know if Dallas wins the game, but I sure don't expect this game to look anything like that Turkey Day game.