New Dallas Cowboy Greg Hardy: 'I don't care if [you] like me'

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Doomsday101

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Why do you think she bailed and did not show up? Because she got paid?

Dude...what was more important to her? A conviction for getting her arse whipped, or a bag of cash? If she had any moral obligation to curb this kind of behavior not only for all women but to help set a precedence that a man cannot pay you off if he kicks your arse , if indeed true, she would have gone to civil trial and possible got more money that what Hardy is accused of paying her. Not all women are gods gift to society.

I don't know I have seen a woman (next door neighbor) who her boyfriend was beating her with a high heel shoe leaving major wounds on her arm, legs and head. She came to my house to escape when yet when police show up she chooses not to press charges. 2 months later he beats her again and leaves town.

As for Holder, I don't know why she left, maybe it was getting the money and moving on. Not trying to make her a saint but does not change the fact that a man has no business hitting a woman period.
 

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Obviously this is a fundamentally good person full of remorse who deserves a second chance. .

What is obvious is that most fans here will overlook anything in order to get football bliss. The willingness to rationalize amazes me.
 

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What is obvious is that most fans here will overlook anything in order to get football bliss. The willingness to rationalize amazes me.

I agree. No wonder athletes and other entertainers feel they can get away with anything. Maybe it is because they can.
 

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The guys who support Hardy aren't interested in logic or justice. Never mind stats that show women are by far the greater victims of domestic violence. Never mind the fact that many rich and powerful men are never accused of similar actions and never find themselves in the situation Hardy found himself in. Never mind the fact that women generally don't speak out against domestic or sexual abuse because of the reaction of people who won't believe them. Never mind the fact that Hardy carelessly had weapons displayed in his home (the type of reckless and careless attitude associated with "gangstas"), a recklessness and carelessness that speaks, at the very least, to his judgment - or lack thereof. Never mind ANY of those facts and logic. Hardy can sack a quarterback, and the Cowboys need him. And their need for their team to win makes them not only feel good about themselves but makes them sacrifice their moral sensibilities on the alter of entertainment. And that is why they turn arguments that clearly have moral distinctions into arguments about moral equivalency. That's why they can treat incidences involving domestic violence cavalierly. That's why they can criticize those who speak out against it as "self righteous" or demand that critics "get off their high horses." They don't want anyone to disturb their entertainment. They don't want anyone to derail their precious dream of seeing their team in the Super Bowl. And a situation that would bring them outrage if it had occurred to their mothers, daughters or sisters, merely gets a wave of the hand because it's some unknown woman who made up the encounter just to get money. So they dismiss. They're not interested in the plight of women in domestic abuse. They're not interested in shining the light on this problem. They want to just show women their backhand, "Go away, little girl. Your problem is of no concern to me. You're interfering with my favorite team's chance to go to the Super Bowl."
But the only way to deal with it is not to ignore it, like they would do, but to speak out because in speaking out we bring attention to an issue that needs attention. No, we're not like those who bow out and act as if nothing is wrong. We continue to raise our voices until we're heard. Because, to us, it's not about being self righteous. It's not about being on a high horse. It's not just about seeing our football team win. It's about our mothers and daughters and sisters and girlfriends and wives. They need to know we care. They need to hear us, even over the cheers of thousands yelling, "Go Cowboys!"

Just wanted to add a balanced perspective. :)

You used a **** ton of words not to say a single thing.
 

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I don't know I have seen a woman (next door neighbor) who her boyfriend was beating her with a high heel shoe leaving major wounds on her arm, legs and head. She came to my house to escape when yet when police show up she chooses not to press charges. 2 months later he beats her again and leaves town.

As for Holder, I don't know why she left, maybe it was getting the money and moving on. Not trying to make her a saint but does not change the fact that a man has no business hitting a woman period.

Men should not hit women. However, women should follow up it they perceive that they have been wronged.

What lesson could be learned by other women in this case? That maybe they can cash in because they are beautiful and find a rich man they can perturb so that he eventually hits her...she gets a fat bag of cash and now she is good to go?

I would honestly believe that if Holder was at some nightclub and some drunk punk hit her but he is not rich, she most likely sure as hell show up in court. I mean, how much can a women get the shitt knocked our of her before she decides money is not the answer?
 

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We have had at least 5 different threads for this discussion... Sorry folks but go to one of those threads .This one is closed
 
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