New Head Coach... "Sooner" than later....

[Avenging Hayseed]

Who else you gonna bring in after BP leaves. ?? Kubiak woulda been GREAT, too bad were a day late and a doller short. Zimmer? HOPE NOT. Palmer?...NO WAY. Ferentz would be fantastic but I just dont see him leaving Iowa for awhile. JJ's old bud Houston Nutt...HOPE NOT. Then you have the usual recycled failure coaches who are available every year to pick from. Norv, guys like that. Dont want that either. Not saying Im a big proponent of stoops. But tell me, if NOT Stoops...........WHO?

 

[jimmy40]

Who else you gonna bring in after BP leaves. ?? Kubiak woulda been GREAT, too bad were a day late and a doller short. Zimmer? HOPE NOT. Palmer?...NO WAY. Ferentz would be fantastic but I just dont see him leaving Iowa for awhile. JJ's old bud Houston Nutt...HOPE NOT. Then you have the usual recycled failure coaches who are available every year to pick from. Norv, guys like that. Dont want that either. Not saying Im a big proponent of stoops. But tell me, if NOT Stoops...........WHO?

I think the coach from Notre Dame would be a good bet.

 

[Chuck 54]

Bob Stoops to be next HC after Bill Parcells retires after upcoming season. He was asked a few years back about a NFL job. He replied he would take a TOP level position in Dallas = Head Coach.

Any Thoughts?

Sorry, 1 Sooner coach was 1 too many....I'll always say NO to Stoops...overrated. Let's see if he gets that mess of a program straightened out this year.

 

[Sasquatch]

Ugh....Barry Switzer phase 2. No thanks....

Will he be packing heat?

 

[Fletch]

Mike Stoops is building a good program here. I do consider him the better coach and actually Bob does too. Said so when Mike got hired.

Well I don't think Bob would tell the media or whoever that he is better than his own blood. He's just being humble. Mike rode the recruiting and the 3 National Championship game coat tails of his brother Bob.

Not taking anything away from Mike, I am sure he is an up and coming college coach over there in Arizona.

 

[Fletch]

Sorry, 1 Sooner coach was 1 too many....I'll always say NO to Stoops...overrated. Let's see if he gets that mess of a program straightened out this year.

LOL @ mess of a program! Too funny wayne. Bob has done more with that program than a lot of coaches in college have with their respective teams. Oklahoma also has a lot of young talent ready to build on.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

I think the coach from Notre Dame would be a good bet.

....True. I just dont see Weiss leaving ND that soon.

 

[Fletch]

....True. I just dont see Weiss leaving ND that soon.

Not with that huge extension Weiss just signed to stay with Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants a power house football team, and keeping Weiss for at least another 5 years is the only way to do that.

He stays. No Weiss in Dallas.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Fletch....Check your instant messages....

 

[Hostile]

Well I don't think Bob would tell the media or whoever that he is better than his own blood. He's just being humble. Mike rode the recruiting and the 3 National Championship game coat tails of his brother Bob.

Not taking anything away from Mike, I am sure he is an up and coming college coach over there in Arizona.

This is from College Football Resource...

August 06, 2005

CFR: Mike Stoops over Bob Stoops

CollegeFootballResource gives their two cents on the great driveway debate at Chez Stoops: Which Stoops is the better coach? CFR says that Arizona's Mike Stoops has a bigger upside than Oklahoma's Bob Stoops and that the Sooners coach is a capable Big XII coach, but lacks the talent to step up against power teams.

 

[Fletch]

This is from College Football Resource...

August 06, 2005

CFR: Mike Stoops over Bob Stoops

CollegeFootballResource gives their two cents on the great driveway debate at Chez Stoops: Which Stoops is the better coach? CFR says that Arizona's Mike Stoops has a bigger upside than Oklahoma's Bob Stoops and that the Sooners coach is a capable Big XII coach, but lacks the talent to step up against power teams.

Thanks for the source Hostile. But isn't that just the mediot talking head's opinion? Yeah I know, mine is simply an opinion as well, but I still feel like Bob Stoops would be a nice pick up for the Dallas Cowboys when the time comes.

 

[jimmy40]

Not with that huge extension Weiss just signed to stay with Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants a power house football team, and keeping Weiss for at least another 5 years is the only way to do that.

He stays. No Weiss in Dallas.

Extensions don't mean anything except for a few recruits stupid enough to think they mean anything. If Parcells helps pick his replacement It will be Weiss over Stoops for sure.

 

[Fletch]

Extensions don't mean anything except for a few recruits stupid enough to think they mean anything. If Parcells helps pick his replacement It will be Weiss over Stoops for sure.

And that wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit. But I just don't see Tuna Jr. coming over from Notre Dame to Dallas.

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for the source Hostile. But isn't that just the mediot talking head's opinion? Yeah I know, mine is simply an opinion as well, but I still feel like Bob Stoops would be a nice pick up for the Dallas Cowboys when the time comes.

I reported a comment by his own brother. In fact I created a thread here when Mike was hired where I posted something like 19 articles about I from every source I could find. I focused on that one comment. It was brushed aside.

No big deal. But I still felt the idea that someone might be better has value to the discussion. So I decided to do a quick search.

I provided a link with a non family opinion, but a reputable source. It's brushed aside because a "mediot" wrote it. In other words nothing I provide on this topic will carry any weight or be merited as something to think about, at least in regards to you.

That's cool. No sweat. Just want you to consider one thing.

After Arizona hired Mike the Sooners went from the obvious #1 team in the country with a scary defense, to Big 12 runners up to Kansas State (I believe) and also lost the National Championship. Since Mike left the Sooners that program has not been the same.

Maybe, just maybe, the loss of Mike Stoops mattered.

Just food for thought. Do with it as you wish.

 

[cobra]

....True. I just dont see Weiss leaving ND that soon.

I agree as a general principle that it looks like Weiss isn't leaving Notre Dame for awhile but...

if Jerry Jones comes knocking and offering the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and general manager role of like Parcells had, Jerry will get his man. He will make it finacially attractive and will be able to persaude anyone to leave their old job.

 

[burmafrd]

Weis's new contract has a $15 million buyout. I don't see JJ wanting to spend THAT much money- and Weis does not seem like he wants to move for at least 5 more year at the least; and he has stated on several occasions that he would be happy to RETIRE at ND. So realistically no chance of him coming here; almost CERTAINLY not when BP leaves.

 

[Skeptic]

Overrated...his brother was the brains of that operation.

I'd rather have a good young, energetic assistant from within the NFL. Someone like a Jim Mora Jr. or Jeff Fisher when they became HC's. We'll just have to see who is available when Parcells retires. But not Stoops.

Oh God Almighty.

Do you even follow the OU program?

Mike was a hell of a coach, but brains of the operation?

Believe me, living in Norman we all know that Bob had to vouch for Mike's "maturity" to Arizona. Mike, he uh.....likes the nightlife.

But the brains? No.

 

[Dallas]

Sorry, 1 Sooner coach was 1 too many....I'll always say NO to Stoops...overrated. Let's see if he gets that mess of a program straightened out this year.

Funny ,

Overated you say. Not a good coach you say. Off how the man can go to 3 NC games in his time so far at OU and he is not a very good coach. His brother made him him say. Get real.

Need I remind you that the OU team this year went into its bowl game not even rated but playing the BCS #6 team and beat them.

Mike Stoops is a fine coach. I dont think he is a better coach. Im not saying Bob is the all time great. The staff that has been assembled in the past made that program. They have some fantastic coaches now. They did then. Thats why every year OU has to fill coaching spots because assistants are given HC positions elsewhere. Personally, Im glad Chuck Long is gone. I could not stand his play calling ( but avg 400 yards/game and 36 pts/game the past 4 years isnt laughable I guess ). Now w/ Kevin Wilson in place - well you saw how things went for the Ducks. That OU was not predictible at all like it was earlier in the year.

Stoops is a great coach. You people are fooling yourselves saying hes not. Saying he is over-rated is pretty laughable.

The talent at OU is spooky. The team was turning it on at the end.

Do I want Stoops in Dallas? NO! I want 2-3 more NC for OU.

Sit tight Bob. Your needed where your at.

 

[Dallas]

I reported a comment by his own brother. In fact I created a thread here when Mike was hired where I posted something like 19 articles about I from every source I could find. I focused on that one comment. It was brushed aside.

No big deal. But I still felt the idea that someone might be better has value to the discussion. So I decided to do a quick search.

I provided a link with a non family opinion, but a reputable source. It's brushed aside because a "mediot" wrote it. In other words nothing I provide on this topic will carry any weight or be merited as something to think about, at least in regards to you.

That's cool. No sweat. Just want you to consider one thing.

After Arizona hired Mike the Sooners went from the obvious #1 team in the country with a scary defense, to Big 12 runners up to Kansas State (I believe) and also lost the National Championship. Since Mike left the Sooners that program has not been the same.

Maybe, just maybe, the loss of Mike Stoops mattered.

Just food for thought. Do with it as you wish.

Yes losing Mike mattered. ****, any team who loses its DC right before a NC game is going to have huge issue. We did and we all know what happened.

Saying that Mike is the better coach than Bob just because they lost the NC on his departure? Not holding much weight w/ me. I think Bret has done a fine job w/ our D since Mike's departure. A damn fine job actually. We need some secondary help but the beef of the OU D up front is prime A certified.

Bob is better than Mike? Who knows. Who cares tho? I mean really.

Saying that - I do recall Arizone leaning heavily toward Mike BECAUSE of his brothers reputation and the program Mike came from. The Bob endorsement vaulted Mike to where he's at I feel.

Dont you go kicking dirt at me Hos. Just my opinion mio. =)

 

[kojak]

When Jerry hired Bill he admitted he was wrong in the past to hire guys without previous NFL Head Coaching experience. As much as I like Stoops I don't see it happening.

No he was wrong to get involved with the team the way he did after Jimmy. That is what actually caused the demise of the Cowboys.