New Head Coach... "Sooner" than later....

[Hostile]

Yes losing Mike mattered. ****, any team who loses its DC right before a NC game is going to have huge issue. We did and we all know what happened.

Saying that Mike is the better coach than Bob just because they lost the NC on his departure? Not holding much weight w/ me. I think Bret has done a fine job w/ our D since Mike's departure. A damn fine job actually. We need some secondary help but the beef of the OU D up front is prime A certified.

Bob is better than Mike? Who knows. Who cares tho? I mean really.

Saying that - I do recall Arizone leaning heavily toward Mike BECAUSE of his brothers reputation and the program Mike came from. The Bob endorsement vaulted Mike to where he's at I feel.

Dont you go kicking dirt at me Hos. Just my opinion mio. =)

I'm not saying Bob is over rated or a bad coach. I was just commenting on a comment by someone else.

I find it interesting that Bob made that comment about Mike. It was encouraging.

 

[joseephuss]

I like Bob Stoops, I just don't know if I can trust a coach that wears a visor. Just looks weird. Parcells did it for one game and it looked very odd. And that is the kind of stuff I base decsions on because it is way more important than football knowledge.

 

[DallasCowpoke111]

He was asked a few years back about a NFL job. He replied he would take a TOP level position in Dallas = Head Coach.

That's just flat out not true. Stoops never said anything of the like, regarding ANY NFL team.

 

[Verdict]

Mike Stoops is building a good program here. I do consider him the better coach and actually Bob does too. Said so when Mike got hired.

I told you at the time Mike Stoops got hired you would love the hire. :toast2:

 

[Hostile]

I told you at the time Mike Stoops got hired you would love the hire. :toast2:

I remember that.

 

[Verdict]

Bash Switzer all you want, but I'd hate to see how good the Falcons might become if he got the Falcons job. Could you imagine Mike Vick running the wishbone?

 

[Verdict]

I remember that.

I figured you would remember that. I just thought I'd tell you "I told you so" to something good happening rather than something bad. LOL

I think he is going to be a perennial winner if you guys can keep him there, which, at some point will probably equate to a raise. Just how much is Mike Stoops making as the head coach there?

 

[Jarv]

Bash Switzer all you want, but I'd hate to see how good the Falcons might become if he got the Falcons job. Could you imagine Mike Vick running the wishbone?

You know, that just might be an idea...

 

[Hostile]

Bash Switzer all you want, but I'd hate to see how good the Falcons might become if he got the Falcons job. Could you imagine Mike Vick running the wishbone?

If the Wishbone would work in the NFL some team would run it.

I hate that offense.

 

[royhitshard]

Jimmy was successful. Switzer, like Stoops at Oklahoma, lived off the players and program someone else had built, but failed when he had to do it himself.

That is funny, Bob took the same team that Blake recruited to a National Championship. Funny also that when Blake was there (with the same players) he couldn't get the team to .500. Hmmm Stoops failed when he had to do it himself? And if you call a 75-16 record in 7 years a failure, you are mistaken. Plus 5 of those losses were in his first year. Get a clue.

 

[BigDFan5]

It's what he's done with that talent. So far, with his own players, he's been a failure. Might turn out different eventually, cuz they are crazy talented.

How is Stoops a failure he made the Championship last season, and this season had almost an entire new team of starters including a Soph QB

 

[DallasCowpoke111]

I have a question for all you Stoops apologists and the "he had a" etc etc crowd.

Did someone fail to inform the Stoops' coaching staff that players LEAVE after a 4-5 year period!!??

I think I'd question a littile more, a coach who went from 1-3 in BCS, w/ the recruiting clout that that brings, then falls back on the BS excuse of we've graduated a bunch of players.

 

[BigWillie]

Stoops was all alone coaching John Blake's kids?

Hmmm....maybe I should phone Mike Leach (HC at Texas Tech), Brent Venables (DC at Oklahoma), Mike Stoops (HC at 'Zona), Mark Mangino (HC at Kansas), Chuck Long (HC at San Diego State) and others who were apart of that staff and let them know they had zero effect on how that team performed.

Stoops was surrounded by a college coaching staff comparable to that of the Bill Walsh led 9ers of the NFL.

Without those coaches, what exactly has Stoops proven besides the ability to choke in the big game and to underachieve?

Now personally, do I believe Stoops is an NFL caliber HC? Heck no. I think he is an average college coach who is a great recruiter. To say the least -- overrated.

If we're going the college rout, give me someone like a Pat Hill. He learned under Bill Belichick and gets the most out of lesser amounts of talent than anyone I have ever seen. After schools like Cal, UCLA, USC and other top schools around the country cherry pick talent from California, Pat Hill swoops in and gets people who he turns into quality players.

 

[joseephuss]

Jimmy was successful. Switzer, like Stoops at Oklahoma, lived off the players and program someone else had built, but failed when he had to do it himself.

Didn't Howard Schnellenberger build the Miami program prior to Jimmy's arrival? Switzer enjoyed many years of success at Oklahoma. He readily admits that it was the talent that made him successful and he was a reason those players were there. It wasn't as if he came in and the team started to suck. They stayed good for over a decade. Stoops re-built OU. There were some talented players there and he worked with them and the recruits that he got to get the program back in the limelight. I don't know if he is NFL material, but he has been successful at the college level.

 

[burmafrd]

Stoops has not impressed me the last few years.He has had a lot of talent but in the big games he is coming up short. 2 NC games and a Big 12 champ game he has lost -that tells me he is not getting it done. AND most of them have been BLOWOUTS.

 

[royhitshard]

Stoops was all alone coaching John Blake's kids?

Hmmm....maybe I should phone Mike Leach (HC at Texas Tech), Brent Venables (DC at Oklahoma), Mike Stoops (HC at 'Zona), Mark Mangino (HC at Kansas), Chuck Long (HC at San Diego State) and others who were apart of that staff and let them know they had zero effect on how that team performed.

Stoops was surrounded by a college coaching staff comparable to that of the Bill Walsh led 9ers of the NFL.

Without those coaches, what exactly has Stoops proven besides the ability to choke in the big game and to underachieve?

Now personally, do I believe Stoops is an NFL caliber HC? Heck no. I think he is an average college coach who is a great recruiter. To say the least -- overrated.

If we're going the college rout, give me someone like a Pat Hill. He learned under Bill Belichick and gets the most out of lesser amounts of talent than anyone I have ever seen. After schools like Cal, UCLA, USC and other top schools around the country cherry pick talent from California, Pat Hill swoops in and gets people who he turns into quality players.

Is that kool-aid good? So what you are saying is that there are no good head coaches, they are only as good as their assisstants? Maybe his assisstants were good because Bob Stoops. They most likely wouldn't have gotten head coaches jobs as fast as they did without Bob Stoops. Get a grip and then pour yourself somemore kool-aid.

 

[royhitshard]

If we're going the college rout, give me someone like a Pat Hill. He learned under Bill Belichick and gets the most out of lesser amounts of talent than anyone I have ever seen. After schools like Cal, UCLA, USC and other top schools around the country cherry pick talent from California, Pat Hill swoops in and gets people who he turns into quality players.

So you are knocking a coach becuase he can recruit the best talent in America. Ya, that sucks. Give me the coach that can get the best talent. Speaking of talent, how many OU players were drafted to the NFL and made it from the 2000 OU national champ team...not very many. Looks like Stoops took average players and made them into winners. The way you are talking, I am guessing you are just a jealous fan of a losing team. Keep drinking the kool-aid.