New Man of Steel Trailer

[CashMan]

The Avengers was also very character driven, not just in the relationship between the heroes and the villains, but also between the heroes and themselves. If all you see is a "movie that appeals to the average kid" then it's obvious you just don't get it.

If someone doesn't like something, it doesn't mean they do not get it. I like DC and Marvel equally, but there is a BIG difference between Batman and Disney's Marvel. Disney is shooting for the wider audience to make money, and action equals money, which is what The Avengers is. On the other hand, Batman is more dark, more of a story. I do not think Marvel or Disney(using Marvel characters) will produce anything close to TDK.

Even if you look at the new Spiderman movies, why didn't they make SM4? Because they wanted to appeal to this hipster kids and make money. I couldn't even watch the new Spiderman movie, it was garbage, but it made money.

 

[Trendnet]

If someone doesn't like something, it doesn't mean they do not get it. I like DC and Marvel equally, but there is a BIG difference between Batman and Disney's Marvel. Disney is shooting for the wider audience to make money, and action equals money, which is what The Avengers is. On the other hand, Batman is more dark, more of a story. I do not think Marvel or Disney(using Marvel characters) will produce anything close to TDK.

Even if you look at the new Spiderman movies, why didn't they make SM4? Because they wanted to appeal to this hipster kids and make money. I couldn't even watch the new Spiderman movie, it was garbage, but it made money.

Spiderman movies are made and produced by Sony, not Disney. They made a new Spiderman movie so the rights didn't revert back to Disney.

 

[CashMan]

Spiderman movies are made and produced by Sony, not Disney. They made a new Spiderman movie so the rights didn't revert back to Disney.

I know they are not made by Disney, I was just saying rather than keeping with the same story, they rebooted it, to catch a younger audience.

 

[theogt]

LOL @ "the Avengers is character driven".

Well, yeah, it had characters in it. That's about where that stops.

 

[Rogah]

Even if you look at the new Spiderman movies, why didn't they make SM4? Because they wanted to appeal to this hipster kids and make money.

I know they are not made by Disney, I was just saying rather than keeping with the same story, they rebooted it, to catch a younger audience.

No offense, but these statements show you really just don't know what the heck you're talking about. After multiple attempts and multiple scripts where they tried to get Spider-Man 4 into production (and for a while it looked like they would) they just couldn't put anything together which Sam Raimi and Tobey McGuire were on board with. You can't blame those guys for wanting to move on - and once the producers lost the 2 of them, they really had little choice but to reboot.

It had nothing to do with "appealing to hipster kids," it was about the fact that the director and actors who made S-M 1, 2 and 3 ultimately just didn't want to do a 4th.

 

[Rogah]

LOL @ "the Avengers is character driven".

Well, yeah, it had characters in it. That's about where that stops.

Yeah, and that was just such great character development how Nolan put in a scene where Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are at a masquerade but, unlike all the other guests, Bruce isn't wearing isn't wearing a mask because being Bruce Wayne is his mask..!!

That was just so clever and original and utterly unlike anything we've ever seen before! Nope, never seen anything like that before in any other Batman movie! That came straight from Nolan's cinematic genius!

 

[speedkilz88]

Yeah, and that was just such great character development how Nolan put in a scene where Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are at a masquerade but, unlike all the other guests, Bruce isn't wearing isn't wearing a mask because being Bruce Wayne is his mask..!!

That was just so clever and original and utterly unlike anything we've ever seen before! Nope, never seen anything like that before in any other Batman movie! That came straight from Nolan's cinematic genius!

And I bet that Bruce's girlfriend being a baddy, you thought that just came out of left field didn't you?

 

[Teren_Kanan]

No offense, but these statements show you really just don't know what the heck you're talking about. After multiple attempts and multiple scripts where they tried to get Spider-Man 4 into production (and for a while it looked like they would) they just couldn't put anything together which Sam Raimi and Tobey McGuire were on board with. You can't blame those guys for wanting to move on - and once the producers lost the 2 of them, they really had little choice but to reboot.

It had nothing to do with "appealing to hipster kids," it was about the fact that the director and actors who made S-M 1, 2 and 3 ultimately just didn't want to do a 4th.

This guy is pretty much correct. But the simplified version is that Spiderman 3 was so bad, certain people wanted nothing to do with 4. Raimi actually spoke out about 3. He had things (like venom) forced on him in that movie.

Spiderman 3 was one of the worst superhero movies ever made. I'm not sure if X3 or SM3 tops the cake, but they are both pretty close, which is upsetting because SM2 and X2 were fantastic movies.

Unfortunately The Amazing Spiderman is pretty crap too, even if I like the cast more.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, and that was just such great character development how Nolan put in a scene where Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are at a masquerade but, unlike all the other guests, Bruce isn't wearing isn't wearing a mask because being Bruce Wayne is his mask..!!

That was just so clever and original and utterly unlike anything we've ever seen before! Nope, never seen anything like that before in any other Batman movie! That came straight from Nolan's cinematic genius!

What a bizarre response.

 

[Rogah]

Spiderman 3 was one of the worst superhero movies ever made. I'm not sure if X3 or SM3 tops the cake, but they are both pretty close, which is upsetting because SM2 and X2 were fantastic movies.

Spider-Man 3 was bad, but nowhere near the putridness of Superman 4 (The Quest For Peace) and Batman & Robin.

 

[Rogah]

What a bizarre response.

Think about it a little harder.

 

[theogt]

Think about it a little harder.

I understand you may perceive this as high-brow, intellectual stuff here, but there's nothing left for me to think about.

 

[Rogah]

I understand you may perceive this as high-brow, intellectual stuff here, but there's nothing left for me to think about.

Considering the comments you've made, obviously there is. But hey, reasonable men can disagree.

You're clearly obsessed with having the last word in this little sidebar, so please feel free to have at it.

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Spider-Man 3 was bad, but nowhere near the putridness of Superman 4 (The Quest For Peace) and Batman & Robin.

Well, in terms of Movie quality Superman 4 might be the worst superhero movie ever made (mean Atom man carries a chick through space and she doesn't die, superman moves the moon ). But as far as expectations went, the bar was set pretty low with Superman 3.

Spiderman 3 and Xmen 3 both had huge expectations coming after two amazing movies, the disappointment was great.

As for batman.. after Batman 2 it was all pretty much down hill =p

 

[joseephuss]

Well, in terms of Movie quality Superman 4 might be the worst superhero movie ever made (mean Atom man carries a chick through space and she doesn't die, superman moves the moon ). But as far as expectations went, the bar was set pretty low with Superman 3.

Spiderman 3 and Xmen 3 both had huge expectations coming after two amazing movies, the disappointment was great.

As for batman.. after Batman 2 it was all pretty much down hill =p

Supergirl was bad. So was Steel starring Shaquille O'Neal. There are lots of bad comic book movie adaptations. It is a tough genre to bring to the big screen. Even the ones considered good or great have some holes in them.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Between Superman 4 and Batman and Robin, I'd tap B&R as the worst superhero movie ever. My reasoning is that I loved Christopher Reeve as Superman growing up. For that fact alone, Superman 4 hangs on to the bottom rung of the superhero movie ladder.

Some mentioned Steel, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, etc., but those had nowhere near the amount of hype that Superman and Batman movies have had.

I'm keeping my expectations low for Man of Steel because I was so let down from Superman Returns. I wanted to like it but I just couldn't it. It's in my collection, but if I said I have watched SR in the last two years, I'd be lying.

Superman the Movie is my all-time favorite superhero movie with the Dark Knight a close second.

 

[CashMan]

Between Superman 4 and Batman and Robin, I'd tap B&R as the worst superhero movie ever. My reasoning is that I loved Christopher Reeve as Superman growing up. For that fact alone, Superman 4 hangs on to the bottom rung of the superhero movie ladder.

Some mentioned Steel, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, etc., but those had nowhere near the amount of hype that Superman and Batman movies have had.

I'm keeping my expectations low for Man of Steel because I was so let down from Superman Returns. I wanted to like it but I just couldn't it. It's in my collection, but if I said I have watched SR in the last two years, I'd be lying.

Superman the Movie is my all-time favorite superhero movie with the Dark Knight a close second.

I thought Brandon Routh, had the look, I thought he was perfect for the role, although the movie was not fantastic. I think Bryan Singer, got a big head, after the 2 X-Men movies, and tried to do too much. I did read, they cut a real expensive intro to SMR. I am just glad, he never got a hold of the Star Trek franchise.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I thought Brandon Routh, had the look, I thought he was perfect for the role, although the movie was not fantastic. I think Bryan Singer, got a big head, after the 2 X-Men movies, and tried to do too much. I did read, they cut a real expensive intro to SMR. I am just glad, he never got a hold of the Star Trek franchise.

When I first heard that Singer would be making a "direct" sequel to the Reeve movies, I was very happy. In fact, the very first teaser trailer was incredible with the John Williams score, shots of Smallville, etc.

Now that I look back, I think he (Singer) put a lot of pressure on Routh to be exactly like Reeve, which is next to impossible. The entire formula and approach just didn't work out.

Hopefully Snyder and Nolan learned from this. The trailers make me believe they did. We will see.