Newman - how many have faith?

[dbair1967]

This year, there is gonna be a ton of pressure on the CBs, because Wade is going to be playing plenty of man. I don't expect a lot of confusion in the back-field and soft-zone anymore. Remember, we played a lot of zone, especially during the era of Parcells.

If Newman is healthy, I expect the INTs to come.

He's had at least 4 in 4 of his 6 seasons, so he does get them

That said your bolded statement doesnt mean anything because teams can simply continue to so as they have, to throw elsewhere. Which I expect to be the case becasue teams will much prefer to try and go after Jenkins and Scandrick rather than Newman.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah, Newman does good against top flight receivers, when healthy. He struggles against the James Thrashes and Mike Williams' of the world though. .

Dude, just stop.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Dude, just stop.

Did he not give up TDs to James Thrash and Mike Williams?

Nice emoticons.

 

[CATCH17]

Did he not give up TDs to James Thrash and Mike Williams?

Nice emoticons.

Yeah but your pointing out single instances that are more the exception and not the rule and you make it sound like its the rule.

When you compare how well Newman has played over the course of his career when it comes to stopping his opponent you wont find anyone better.


Case closed and thats all she wrote.

Go cry about some other scrub but dont start trying to throw one of our better players under the bus.

 

[khiladi]

Given the amount of pressure we put on the QB, you'd expect our secondary to have impressive turnover numbers.

Our pressure came when Wade took over. Again, from then on, we averaged close to 2 turnovers a game, not once having a game where we didn't have a TO.

Our lack of TOs was actually a reflection of Stewart, where 2 games, we didn't have a single TO and one game, the Arizona game, we had 3 TOs, which obscures the tenure of Stewart overall.

 

[khiladi]

He's had at least 4 in 4 of his 6 seasons, so he does get them

That said your bolded statement doesnt mean anything because teams can simply continue to so as they have, to throw elsewhere. Which I expect to be the case becasue teams will much prefer to try and go after Jenkins and Scandrick rather than Newman.

I'm referring exclusively to TOs. I'm not bagging on Newman and understand that teams refuse to throw at him. The point is, Wade's philosophy is going to create more situations where INTs will come, because the pressure is going to come and force the QB to throw it.

 

[burmafrd]

Our problem is continuing to have the Cbs play OFF when we put the pressure on. We need to tighten up and have our CBs closer to the play in order to get more turnovers.

 

[Frozen700]

Newman is far from the best 2 or 3 in the league. He's a top 10, maybe at 9.

As far as Scandrick is concerned, he made play after play last year as a rookie.

Newman, for a top 10 pick should be scooping up INT after INT, or at least shutting his side of the field down at his age.

9? are you serious? name the corners...i cant wait to see this...i can tell you don't watch football

 

[Frozen700]

No, not even close. The pick 6 against the Jets, in a 34-7 route, was a gift. He undercut an out route, and walked into the endzone basically.

The pick against the Skins was Newman in good position, but more a poor throw by Campbell than a great play by Newman.

I'm glad this thread is starting to help sway this perception that some of our players are untouchable and can't be ridiculed. I love Newman as a person, and when he is healthy - there aren't many better.

I like him for being a tough guy and playing through injuries, but very often I think he and we use that as an excuse entirely too much. You're our top shut down corner, we paid like you're one of the 5 best in the league - make a couple of plays please.

a gift? bro.....have you ever played the game? Nothing....unless your just standing there like a Donkey...and the ball comes your way is a gift

 

[Frozen700]

Scandrick had 4 pass deflections. 0 picks. 0 FF. That's hardly making "play after play".

Fun fact: Mike Jenkins made more plays than Scandrick in half the playing time.

The More You Know.

Just wait and watch how fast the board turns on Scandrick when he gives up his first TD...or gets burnt..or has 1 bad game

 

[Frozen700]

Santana has gotten the best of Newman his fair share of times too.

Owens used to absolutely own Newman, so did Randy Moss - but that was when he was young.

I believe it was Harrison when we knocked them off from being undefeated. That was a great win.

Yeah, someone got a screen shot of it from Hard Knocks. I hope they keep that locker when they move to the new stadium. History.... Fires me up every time. Especially knowing it came from Woody, the consummate professional.

Randy moss? so i guess 2 2 yard hitch's for TD's abused him? i forgot td's are that matter, forget the fact Newman held him under 35 yards

stats.....lol i tell you madden and sports center, will really _______ a person up

 

[GoBoys41]

Did he not give up TDs to James Thrash and Mike Williams?

Nice emoticons.

You can pick about any cornerback in the league and they've gotten beat by a below average player a few times. Seriously.

 

[Frozen700]

You can pick about any cornerback in the league and they've gotten beat by a below average player a few times. Seriously.

they can't

1) they don't know or understand football

2)they only watch Cowboy's game

 

[EPL0c0]

With Newman going on 31 and having missed games the last two years odds are that he will not play a 16 game season. With that said how many have faith that Jenkins/Scandrick/Ball can hold the secondary together for say 4 games. I say 4 because that's what I think Newman will miss. Not trying to sound like a sour puss because i think Newman is a heck of a player but the team needs to be prepared just in case.

Options:

1) sign a vet and draft a couple of CB's.

2) just draft a couple of CB's and them as the 4th/5th CB's.

I think we just have to hope Newman can keep it together a year or two more; give Scandrick/Jenkins good direction/help/leadership and a chance to develop.

 

[dadymat]

always some blow hard saying "you dont understand football"..."have you ever played the game"...." you only watch Cowboy games"......gimme a break ....you know nothing more than the rest of us.....youve just convinced yourself that you do...

 

[Clove]

It'd be awesome if we could actually get opinions of Newman from front office types - it'd settle the debate once and for all.

Teams that are not intimidated by Newman go at him and succeed, it's the truth.

Newman is not used to being picked on, and when he is picked on, he's 50/50.

BTW, I never said Newman was a bad or even average corner, I said he was a tad overrated and if you can't handle that, then believe what you want.

He's a top 9 Corner in this league.

 

[Vintage]

Teams that are not intimidated by Newman go at him and succeed, it's the truth.

Newman is not used to being picked on, and when he is picked on, he's 50/50.

BTW, I never said Newman was a bad or even average corner, I said he was a tad overrated and if you can't handle that, then believe what you want.

He's a top 9 Corner in this league.

I can't handle what? Quit getting your panties in a wad.

All I said was it would be awesome if we could get some front office types to comment on Newman; so we could see what guys with football knowledge thought of Newman, which would settle the debate....

That's all.

 

[Clove]

I can't handle what? Quit getting your panties in a wad.

All I said was it would be awesome if we could get some front office types to comment on Newman; so we could see what guys with football knowledge thought of Newman, which would settle the debate....

That's all.

No disrespect my friend, but I can tell you now that a few of those coaches that went after Newman will give an assessment some may be surprised by.

This is really not an argument, I think Newman is a fabulous player, I honestly do. I don't think he's a play-maker, but he's an amazing talent.

 

[28 Joker]

Did he not give up TDs to James Thrash and Mike Williams?

Nice emoticons.

The Thrash TD was on Pat Watkins.

You can count on one hand the amount of TDs he's given up in four years.

 

[28 Joker]

2004, when we got destroyed by Philly 49-21. Owens had a career day, Newman had the opposite.

Same year, against Minny in the season opener. One of Newman's worst games as a pro.

You're cracking me up with your fellatious support.

What?

Roy Willams and Terrence Newman spent the entire game chasing other players' guys in that Monday night game. Newman was a little outnumbered that day. Newman wasn't the guy getting abused, it was the terrible Dallas secondary.

Newman completely owned Owens in Philadelphia that year until Owens left the game in the middle of the 3rd quarter.