News on Ware

[slick325]

I suspect a deal gets done with DWare relatively soon. Somewhere between what Polamalu got in Pittsburgh and Suggs got in Baltimore. I'd say, Three years 24mil with 16 guaranteed and 12mil signing bonus. By the time year three (2016) rolls around he can be released for a minimal cap hit. DWare will be 35 by then and will likely retire as a Cowboys great. His cap number this year will probably be around 6-8mil....saving the team plenty of cap room to pursue any free agents they like.

With Austin's pending release and the $5.5mil cap savings.....rookies and Brian Waters (if he wants to play again and the team will have him back) can be signed from that savings.

I am in the camp that wants DWare back and believes this isn't a bad move by Jerry at all actually. Hopefully, Jerry, DWare, Pat Dye and Bill Johnson (Ware's agents) can get something done.

 

[Blackspider214]

I agree 100%....I know I'm almost alone here but I just want him gone. Use that money on someone else. At this point I think he's easily replaced with his age and injuries and his disappearing acts.........

No you are definitely no alone man. That is the problem with many, especially Jerry. Letting go of the past and pretending these players are what they used to be. Paying age in this league besides QB at times is a recipe for disaster. Same with many back in the day who wanted to hold onto Emmitt. When it was clear he was at the end of his career.

There is no reason to give Ware any type of money he wants. Let another team make that mistake. He's old and has injury problems.

 

[Leadbelly]

Today's the first day teams can contact agents for pending free agents on other teams and get a feel for contracts. I wonder if the team is looking at Ware's contract as something they could dump if get good feedback from some potential targets. Essentially, shopping like they are free of the contract.

If targets are available at the right price, Ware gets cut and Dallas uses it to sign the free agent(s).

If targets are not, Ware gets restructured in a way that gets him some guaranteed money in exchange for the team being able to limit dead money when the two sides ultimately do move on.

I like Ware as much as any player who's ever played in Dallas, but he doesn't really provide $16M worth of impact. I'd rather have 4 good players in the $3.5M to $5M range.

 

[theSHOW]

I suspect a deal gets done with DWare relatively soon. Somewhere between what Polamalu got in Pittsburgh and Suggs got in Baltimore. I'd say, Three years 24mil with 16 guaranteed and 12mil signing bonus. By the time year three (2016) rolls around he can be released for a minimal cap hit. DWare will be 35 by then and will likely retire as a Cowboys great. His cap number this year will probably be around 6-8mil....saving the team plenty of cap room to pursue any free agents they like.

With Austin's pending release and the $5.5mil cap savings.....rookies and Brian Waters (if he wants to play again and the team will have him back) can be signed from that savings.

I am in the camp that wants DWare back and believes this isn't a bad move by Jerry at all actually. Hopefully, Jerry, DWare, Pat Dye and Bill Johnson (Ware's agents) can get something done.

8 million a year! wow lol and a big fat guarantee in case he goes downhill again...to a player who has done nothing. Sorry but Ware plain sucks at stopping the run and he cant rush either now with all his injuries. Lets get some new younger players in the draft and another 1 or 2 during free agency. On the defensive front.

 

[rwill784]

8 million a year! wow lol and a big fat guarantee in case he goes downhill again...to a player who has done nothing. Sorry but Ware plain sucks at stopping the run and he cant rush either now with all his injuries. Lets get some new younger players in the draft and another 1 or 2 during free agency. On the defensive front.

I agree,I thought we stood a chance at redd bryant, we need to just let ware go and sign 2-3 hungry players for that money. Depth and a rotation with average ends trumps having a "stud" who can't be counted on anymore. He's not a DE let go of the past and move on.

 

[slick325]

8 million a year! wow lol and a big fat guarantee in case he goes downhill again...to a player who has done nothing. Sorry but Ware plain sucks at stopping the run and he cant rush either now with all his injuries. Lets get some new younger players in the draft and another 1 or 2 during free agency. On the defensive front.

The deal I propose is fair for both. DWare is still capable of getting double digit sacks so Dallas would have a ten sack guy for 2yrs (he would be cut prior to year 3 in my opinion) and save on current and future cap space. The average of the deal would be $8mil per but with the bonus and amount of guaranteed money, it would essentially be a two year deal. That is a win for Dallas anyway you look at it. If he is released you save 7.5 or so mil this year but have dead money on the 2015 cap. Essentially paying for Ware anyway....why not lower his figure completely thus minimizing any dead money in 2016?

For Ware, the market for a 30 something Pro Bowl DE could have been set by Suggs who I don't see as a better player currently and is only one year younger. He would get more on the open market than what I proposed but not much more in terms of guaranteed money. Please don't be fooled by what Avril and Bennett signed for last season because they have never played at the level Ware has and aren't considered better players as of March 8, 2014.

 

[BigStar]

6.9 mil after adding a minimum contract thats not on the top 51 against the cap.

But frees up 17 mil in 2015

Why is his release in debate, SB next season?

 

[skinsscalper]

I agree,I thought we stood a chance at redd bryant, we need to just let ware go and sign 2-3 hungry players for that money. Depth and a rotation with average ends trumps having a "stud" who can't be counted on anymore. He's not a DE let go of the past and move on.

Redd Bryant? Are you kidding me? That guy has dud written all over him. There's a reason Seattle wasted no time in letting him hit the road. He's a two down player with no pass rush at all. Hungry player. Pshh.

 

[CoCo]

Dallas could hold on to him late into Fa when FA money is gone and release him if they wanted to. Thats tremendous leverage, What are you talkig about?

I'm saying Jerry won't do that. He's not going to use the leverage to that extent. It's not his style with a player of Ware's stature IMO.

 

[theSHOW]

The deal I propose is fair for both. DWare is still capable of getting double digit sacks so Dallas would have a ten sack guy for 2yrs (he would be cut prior to year 3 in my opinion) and save on current and future cap space. The average of the deal would be $8mil per but with the bonus and amount of guaranteed money, it would essentially be a two year deal. That is a win for Dallas anyway you look at it. If he is released you save 7.5 or so mil this year but have dead money on the 2015 cap. Essentially paying for Ware anyway....why not lower his figure completely thus minimizing any dead money in 2016?

For Ware, the market for a 30 something Pro Bowl DE could have been set by Suggs who I don't see as a better player currently and is only one year younger. He would get more on the open market than what I proposed but not much more in terms of guaranteed money. Please don't be fooled by what Avril and Bennett signed for last season because they have never played at the level Ware has and aren't considered better players as of March 8, 2014.

If Ware is cut it ends here in 2014. This is not a post june 1 cut. Therre is not a 2015 cap loss. In fact Dallas won't be on the hook for 17 million. End result in 2015 is 17 million saved for 1 player that we have to replace = pretty nice big cap savings to sign our LT Smith

 

[big dog cowboy]

Cowboys have spoken to agent and said they'd like to get a new deal with Ware. But Dallas has a little leverage as they dont have to rush it because they are under the cap.

Been thinking about this all day. Just seems the Cowboys have all the leverage despite the current state of their DL. Ware needs us more than we need him. The primary reason I feel this way is due to Ware's ineffectiveness and decline in play recently. In other words, we can replace his production at a fraction of the cost. And that is exactly what I would do.

 

[gmoney112]

Dallas could hold on to him late into Fa when FA money is gone and release him if they wanted to. Thats tremendous leverage, What are you talkig about?

Haha yeah, well in our case that isn't leverage at all. If we had cap room to sign, anyone at all, without making a decision on Ware then sure we'd have tremendous leverage, but we don't. We'd hold onto Ware just to release him, miss out on every key FA, and then lose Ware as well. That's pretty much worse case scenario. It's in everyone's best interests to make a decision as soon as possible.

 

[Picksix]

I suspect a deal gets done with DWare relatively soon. Somewhere between what Polamalu got in Pittsburgh and Suggs got in Baltimore. I'd say, Three years 24mil with 16 guaranteed and 12mil signing bonus. By the time year three (2016) rolls around he can be released for a minimal cap hit. DWare will be 35 by then and will likely retire as a Cowboys great. His cap number this year will probably be around 6-8mil....saving the team plenty of cap room to pursue any free agents they like.

With Austin's pending release and the $5.5mil cap savings.....rookies and Brian Waters (if he wants to play again and the team will have him back) can be signed from that savings.

I am in the camp that wants DWare back and believes this isn't a bad move by Jerry at all actually. Hopefully, Jerry, DWare, Pat Dye and Bill Johnson (Ware's agents) can get something done.

If Ware were released, he wouldn't get near that kind of deal from anyone else, not with his age and recent injury history. No reason why we should give him that, especially that much guaranteed.

 

[Blackspider214]

I suspect a deal gets done with DWare relatively soon. Somewhere between what Polamalu got in Pittsburgh and Suggs got in Baltimore. I'd say, Three years 24mil with 16 guaranteed and 12mil signing bonus. By the time year three (2016) rolls around he can be released for a minimal cap hit. DWare will be 35 by then and will likely retire as a Cowboys great. His cap number this year will probably be around 6-8mil....saving the team plenty of cap room to pursue any free agents they like.

With Austin's pending release and the $5.5mil cap savings.....rookies and Brian Waters (if he wants to play again and the team will have him back) can be signed from that savings.

I am in the camp that wants DWare back and believes this isn't a bad move by Jerry at all actually. Hopefully, Jerry, DWare, Pat Dye and Bill Johnson (Ware's agents) can get something done.

Wow. This line of thinking is so sad. People wanting to hang onto these old players who have nothing left. Just so they can retire as a Cowboy. Which in reality means nothing. Ware is nothing more than a guy who rushes the passer like a chicken with its head cut off and gets there very rarely now days. While being pathetic against the run or screens.

A Cowboy Great? Surrrrre. He was apart of a period that won one measly playoff game. I don't consider anyone in this era a Cowboy great. Individual stats? Fine. Apart of a winning product? No. Absolutely not. None of them should ever be put in the ring of honor. They accomplished nothing at all.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Why are people keep saying the world restructure??? It's either you take the pay cut or get cut.....

 

[Kaiser]

Why are people keep saying the world restructure??? It's either you take the pay cut or get cut.....

Doug Free is on Line One for you, he wants about 12 Million dollars from his old contract back.

 

[Fletch]

I don't see the final numbers being anywhere close to that.

Do you think I was being serious? That would suck.

 

[BigStar]

Do you think I was being serious? That would suck.

With Chevy as your sig I assumed sarcasm Make it a gillion dollaz (I've learned that sarcasm doesn't tend to take on this board)

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Do you think I was being serious? That would suck.

LOL!

Yes it would.

 

[lwehlers]

I don't see the final numbers being anywhere close to that.

I sure hope that ware doen

5 yr. 102 mil. 26 mil guarantee. Gitter done JJ.

I sure hope that those are not the numbers that ware signs for. that would be insane money to sign a soon to be mid thirties defensive end. the days of ware of getting 15 sacks again are over in my opinion. the most that ware will get in a season is 12 the rest of the way. I hope the guarantee money is only in the 10-15 million range. 26 million would be a huge cap hit to a absorb in the future when ware is done in three years.