NFC East by position-QB

[jobberone]

Thought I'd post a series on the best players of the NFC East by position via polls and discussion.

We'll start with the QBs. Some positions may not be settled and some players will change for various reasons as the season progresses but it's just for grins.

This is a relatively easy one although Philly may not be so settled.

Pick your number one choice in the poll and that will sort itself out. Feel free to rank them in the discussion.

Dallas- Romo is the only choice here for Dallas and my pick for the best QB in the division.

NYG- Another team with only one clear cut choice at QB. I'm not a huge fan of Manning but he's a pretty good QB. Today I'd pick him as the number two QB in the division.

Philly- Not a clear choice here in my opinion although I suspect Vick starts the season.

Wash- Griffin is an exciting ball player with the legs and arm to beat you. His ypa was the highest in the division last year. As a fan of football players he's near the top of the list in the league as an exciting and entertaining player and one to plan for and respect. Nice guy on top of it all. As a Dallas fan I hope he plays well just not too well.

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm going with Romo. Manning a close 2nd, and even though he has 2 rings, doesn't make him the better QB. Just had the better team those years.
RG3 as 3rd, but I think he takes a step back this year, defenses will have a better feel for this style offense. And coming off a nasty looking knee injury.
Any QB for the eagles is last, even below the unknown factor of RG3's injury. Vick, he still isn't as good as the pundits think he is, Foles still needs to get more time to see how he can be, Barkley, a rookie.

 

[pancakeman]

It's very nearly a three-way tie for me (with the Eagles guy the odd man out).

 

[Sarge]

Well, it depends on what you mean by "best". Manning has an uncanny way of winning big games. RGIII is probably the most dangerous on any given play and Romo, for my money, is the most consistent (at least during the regular season). I suppose age has to come into it as well. I am gonna cop out on this one - I really don't think there is a "best" out of the aforementioned. A legitimate argument can be made for each one...... Forget about Vick - he's a joke at this point.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Well, it depends on what you mean by "best". Manning has an uncanny way of winning big games.

He also has an uncanny way of playing real, real bad in order to transform meaningless games into "big" games.

 

[Hardline]

Eli has the rings.You may say he lucked into them or plays for a team with a dominate pass rush. Still...he has 2 rings.
Romo has great stats and needs to translate them into playoff success.
Griffin will only get better and he is already damn good.
Vick is nothing.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

Eli has done it. Twice. Got to go with him.

 

[noshame]

He also has an uncanny way of playing real, real bad in order to transform meaningless games into "big" games.

LOL thank heavens Romo never does that

 

[AsthmaField]

If you take age into consideration, I would probably want Griffin but If I was starting a franchise and needed a QB for 2013 and could pick from those 4 guys, it would be in this order:

1. Romo
2. Eli
3. Griffin
4. Vick

I know Eli has two rings but anyone who really knows football understands that, while he helped on those two championship runs, they never happen without a dominant pass rush and extremely solid coaching. They basically asked Eli not to **** it up, and that's what he did.

Romo is the best passer of the group. He is the most accurate, and while he isn't a runner like Griffin and Vick, he is more mobile and elusive than Manning. Tony can go off the reservation at times, but he can also bring a team back and win in the end. His lack of playoff success is due to the team around him having serious holes and letting him down. On several occasions the team has let Romo down and put too much on him to try to win. If Dallas finally puts a sound defense around him and gives him a better offensive line than he's had the last couple of years, there is no doubt that Romo can take the team deep in the playoffs.

Griffin is extremely dangerous because of his legs and because of his Coach. Shanahan is brilliant offensively and he will continue to use Griffin in ways that will make it difficult to defend him. Griffin is talented, but Shanahan is simply brilliant in how he limited the mistakes Griffin could make and asked him only to do what he was comfortable doing. Griffin's arm is pretty good at the moment, but he has a long way to go as a passer to be in Manning's and Romo's catagory. I assume the passing part of his game will continue to improve as he gains experience. Right now though, I'd only want him if Romo and Manning weren't available to me. He has hurt the same knee twice now and that is something to consider. He might never quite be the same physically and if they continue to ask him to run a lot, the injuries will continue to pile up. He is a terrific athlete, but he is a little frail and that would really concern me.

Vick brings up the rear and I feel like that's where he belongs. He's just never going to be dangerous as a passer, and that hurts him. He can still run like a deer, but he's gets hurt often and is at the age where the legs start to go a little bit. Take away his fantastic running ability and you have a very, very average QB, at best.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I'm regrettably going with Eli because I saw him put balls in places the past couple years that I didn't think balls could go. And plus he has the 2 trophy's. RG3 is not even in the conversation in my book. The guy has only been in the league one year. I need a larger sample size. Ask me after 5 years.

 

[Afigueroa22]

Eli has done it. Twice. Got to go with him.

You mean the Giants have done it twice?

 

[Gemini Dolly]

You mean the Giants have done it twice?

yeah. Giants. He was the MVP too. Eli has proven he can play well in the biggest moment.

 

[Afigueroa22]

yeah. Giants. He was the MVP too. Eli has proven he can play well in the biggest moment.

You mean his team has proven they can play well in the biggest moments?

 

[Gemini Dolly]

You mean his team has proven they can play well in the biggest moments?

Of course. Eli proved he could lead his team...twice.

 

[Next Years Champ]

Thought I'd post a series on the best players of the NFC East by position via polls and discussion.

We'll start with the QBs. Some positions may not be settled and some players will change for various reasons as the season progresses but it's just for grins.

This is a relatively easy one although Philly may not be so settled.

Pick your number one choice in the poll and that will sort itself out. Feel free to rank them in the discussion.

Dallas- Romo is the only choice here for Dallas and my pick for the best QB in the division.

NYG- Another team with only one clear cut choice at QB. I'm not a huge fan of Manning but he's a pretty good QB. Today I'd pick him as the number two QB in the division.

Philly- Not a clear choice here in my opinion although I suspect Vick starts the season.

Wash- Griffin is an exciting ball player with the legs and arm to beat you. His ypa was the highest in the division last year. As a fan of football players he's near the top of the list in the league as an exciting and entertaining player and one to plan for and respect. Nice guy on top of it all. As a Dallas fan I hope he plays well just not too well.

Got to be Eli. Winning Championships is the only measuring stick if you are asking who is best. After he won the second one..he now actually becomes a candidate for a possible HofF ballot. Romo is not even in the same universe of that..that's how badly Romo ranks.

Romo is just unlucky to have come along at a time when the Jints were shrewd enough to have gotten Eli and they stayed with their coaches and it worked.

Romo has plenty of company in Dallas QB history of QB who never won championships but who were supposed to: Don Meredith, Craig Morton, Danny White and Romo. Not bad company but notorious to be sure.

 

[Afigueroa22]

Of course. Eli proved he could lead his team...twice.

You are correct, The Giants are a team.

The Cowboys are Romo, Witten, Ware, Spencer, Bryant, Lee, Carter, Carr, Claiborne, Smith and others.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

Got to be Eli. Winning Championships is the only measuring stick if you are asking who is best. After he won the second one..he now actually becomes a candidate for a possible HofF ballot. Romo is not even in the same universe of that..that's how badly Romo ranks.

Romo is just unlucky to have come along at a time when the Jints were shrewd enough to have gotten Eli and they stayed with their coaches and it worked.

Romo has plenty of company in Dallas QB history of QB who never won championships but who were supposed to: Don Meredith, Craig Morton, Danny White and Romo. Not bad company but notorious to be sure.

You just cant discredit what Eli has done in the biggest moment. He could have easily crashed and burned. But when he needed to place a ball in the tiniest of windows, thats what he did.

 

[Vanilla2]

It's fun to see the Romo detractors discredit what Eli's teams have done for him in crunch time

And at the same time discrediting what Romo has meant to the Cowboys.

Good show.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Envy is a staple of this country nowdays.

Pity.

 

[DFWJC]

Can't blame anyone for choosing Eli.
Some do seem to forget how feast or famine he has been in the playoffs.
He's been fortunate enough to get there five times.
Three times he and his team were one and done in these huge "clutch" playoff opportunities...and he played truly horrible football in those playoff loses.

Of course, the other two times, we know what happened.
So he does deserve big credit.
Just hope some realize he's not always that way.

It helps to get many opportunities (seeFlacco).