NFC East by position-QB

[Questfor6]

Sadly Eli is #1 in the NFC East on my list because of his two rings but not by much over Romo.
1. (Sh)Eli
2. Romo
3. Griffin
4. Cousins
5. Orton
6. Nassib
7. Vick

 

[Idgit]

Eli's good enough to win Superbowls. I'm not sure anything else matters.

But for my money, he's not nearly the QB that Tony Romo is, though he's capable of playing at a similar level for stretches. RGIII, though, had an impact on the NFCE last year similar to the impact Tony had when he first got elevated. If he comes all the way back, and if his style of offense doesn't shorten his career, he's on a similar trajectory, and at a younger age, to Tony's. And envy's got nothing to do with it. It's just a matter of who's better at their position and of judging players by their play and not by the accomplishments of a 53 man team.

 

[Afigueroa22]

It's fun to see the Romo detractors discredit what Eli's teams have done for him in crunch time

And at the same time discrediting what Romo has meant to the Cowboys.

Good show.

Romo believes he is better than he is. Is he top 10 all time? No, he is not. He thinks he can get it done all by himself but he can't.

 

[Bay10]

Eli (I don't think Eli is better than Romo but the man has the rings although that is more of a reflection on their past teams more than the qbs themselves)
Romo
RG3
Vick

 

[Sarge]

Sadly Eli is #1 in the NFC East on my list because of his two rings but not by much over Romo.
1. (Sh)Eli
2. Romo
3. Griffin
4. Cousins
5. Orton
6. Nassib
7. Vick

I have seen Nassib play almost every game he played at SU. Don't get me wrong, I hate Vick, but to put Nassib ahead of Vick is laughable, with all due respect.

 

[zack]

I picked:
1. Romo
2. Eli
3. RG3
4. Vick

There are so many numbers that support that Romo is doing his part as a QB, but is not getting the help he needs for this team to get over the top.

Eli does have two rings and if I were a Giants fan, I would use that argument as well. But he has been pretty inconsistent at times only to have his defense bail him out. Eli has 30% of his starts that are under a passer rating of 66.7, but has a pretty decent W/L % in those games.

I can't help but think of how many chances he had in the NFC Championship game against the 49ers. The Giants defense and special teams were amazing that day.

Two of his most clutch performances came in the SB, but both were amazing catches. In the first SB, he does what he always does, chucks and ducks and fortunately, his receiver came up with the ball. But on that same drive, he threw a bone headed pass right in the hands of Samuel who would have ended the game. I have never seen a QB get some many chances.....

In the second SB, the throw on the sidelines was amazing, but an even better catch. As a former receiver, I still don't know how he caught the ball and kept his feet in bounds....

A majority of us believe and know that Romo is better, but until he has at least one ring, he won't be considered better than Manning. If Romo wins one SB, I believe that a majority of the media will put him over Eli without a doubt. Gosh, I hope this is the year......

 

[Questfor6]

I have seen Nassib play almost every game he played at SU. Don't get me wrong, I hate Vick, but to put Nassib ahead of Vick is laughable, with all due respect.

Yeah it was a little uncalled for but I hate Vick that much.

 

[jobberone]

Interesting that it's Eli v Romo for the most part. I'm eager to see how Griffin turns out from a pure football aspect. At the same time I don't like the fact he's a Commander. I still think Vick is very dangerous. I've always been surprised he hasn't done much with all that talent.

I don't think Eli is nearly as talented as Romo but you have to give Eli credit for having two rings. You cannot dismiss the SB victories but I don't see how you can write off Eli has having great support and a fair amount of luck. How many times has a team won a SB because a basically nobody WR caught a prayer with his helmet?

 

[rash]

1. RG3
2. Romo & Eli
4. Vick

 

[DFWJC]

Romo believes he is better than he is. Is he top 10 all time? No, he is not. He thinks he can get it done all by himself but he can't.

Can't recall ever hearing (or even hinting) that Romo believes this. No need to make stuff up to make your point. if you don't like him, just say so.

 

[Idgit]

Can't recall ever hearing (or even hinting) that Romo believes this. No need to make stuff up to make your point. if you don't like him, just say so.

Depending on the point, sometimes there is a need to make stuff up in order to make it.

 

[visionary]

Romo believes he is better than he is. Is he top 10 all time? No, he is not. He thinks he can get it done all by himself but he can't.

i would lke it if romo said this

as strange as it may sound, i want my QB to say this, but then go out and back it up

i am not a fan of either eli or flacco but i loved how they said that they thought they were 'elite' thus putting themselves in the cross hairs but then they both went out and proved it

if you want to lead, lead

just my .02

 

[DFWJC]

i would lke it if romo said this

as strange as it may sound, i want my QB to say this, but then go out and back it up

i am not a fan of either eli or flacco but i loved how they said that they thought they were 'elite' thus putting themselves in the cross hairs but then they both went out and proved it

if you want to lead, lead

just my .02

They did not say say they could do it all by themselves though. Huge, HUGE difference.
Hopefully no QB would moronic enough to say that.

 

[visionary]

They did not say say they could do it all by themselves though. Huge, HUGE difference.
Hopefully no QB would mornic enough to say that.

agreed, that would be stupid

 

[mrmojo]

Eli, until Romo wins in playoffs the will always be the case IMO........regardless of stats.

 

[Idgit]

Eli, until Romo wins in playoffs the will always be the case IMO........regardless of stats.

You mean regardless of actual quarterback production.

 

[EPL0c0]

I think Manning has benefited from better coaching and better Oline/RBs. I think his WRs have always been a bit better than Dallas' over the last few years just in how they communicate/play together.

He wouldn't have that kind of success in Dallas. Vice-versa, if Romo had better coaching and a reliable run game, I think he'd have achieved far more by now

 

[KJJ]

I think Manning has benefited from better coaching and better Oline/RBs. I think his WRs have always been a bit better than Dallas' over the last few years just in how they communicate/play together.

He wouldn't have that kind of success in Dallas. Vice-versa, if Romo had better coaching and a reliable run game, I think he'd have achieved far more by now

Eli has had better coaching and a better running game but Romo's had the better receivers. Eli's never had a TE like Witten. Romo's had TO who produced almost 3600 yards and 33 TD's in his 3 years in Dallas. He had Terry Glenn during the 06 season who put up over 1000 yards and 6 TD's. Both TO and Glenn had 1000 yard seasons in 06 and Julius Jones had over 1000 yards rushing. Witten and Crayton combined for almost 1300 receiving yards in 06. In 07 Witten, TO and Crayton combined for 3100 receiving yards. Romo still has Witten who's playing at a very high level and one of the most gifted young receivers in the game in Dez Bryant. When healthy Austin still produces.

Romo's receiving corp along with his ability to escape pressure and make plays outside the pocket has made him a more productive QB than Eli throughout their careers. This is a big reason why a lot of Cowboy FANS think Romo is the better QB the other reason is they're biased. The big difference between Eli and Romo is that Eli has been by far the better big game QB it's not even debatable. During most of the regular season Romo has been the better QB but in the crunch games it's been all Eli. His head to head record vs Romo is better and it includes 2 elimination game wins which led to Eli's 2 championships. If you compare their regular season numbers it's all Romo he even has fewer turnovers than Eli but it's been a totally different story in elimination games. QB's earn their skins in elimination games.

During the 07 season Romo owned Eli in their 2 regular season meetings passing for over 550 yards and 8 TD's and didn't have a passer rating lower than 123.1. In the playoffs it looked like a completely different Romo he wasn't sharp and his passer rating was a dismal 64.7 compared to Eli who finished with a passer rating of 132.4. Eli's 9-3 elimination game record that includes 2 SB wins and 2 SB MVP awards puts him well ahead of Romo who's elimination game record is something Cowboy FANS don't want to discuss. Nothing angers Cowboy FANS more than those of us who point out why Eli is considered the better QB. The agenda on Cowboy FAN boards is to spin that pointing out what separates the 2 QB's is nothing more than hating on Romo and showing love for Eli.

There's probably not a fan base in the NFL that puts as little importance on do or die games as Cowboy FANS because it's Romo's performances in those games that has him sliding further behind his peers each year. Only on a Cowboy FAN board would Romo be blowing away the competition in a poll like this that includes a two-time SB winning QB who was helped to those championships by outplaying Romo in the games that mattered most. The bottom line is Romo is a more athletically gifted QB than Eli but the bigger the game the better Eli plays and the worse Romo plays it's a fact just look at the numbers.

 

[03EBZ06]

Yeah, because we all know that first year starting QB with some offensive arsenal is suppose to win SB.

 

[KJJ]

He also has an uncanny way of playing real, real bad in order to transform meaningless games into "big" games.

What??? What's uncanny about Eli is how he can play real, real bad during regular season games then turn it around and play real, real good when it's down to do or die. In 07 Eli had one of the worst games you'll ever see by an NFL QB vs Minn in week 12. That performance was so pathetic it would have made Romo cringe. Eli tossed 4 int's 3 of which were returned for TD's. He only completed 42.9% of his passes in that game and his passer rating was 33.8. He wasn't any good the next 4 weeks and against Wash and Buffalo in weeks 15 and 16 he had passer ratings of 51.1 and 32.2.

The word "bust" and Eli started being mentioned in the same sentence that season. From weeks 12 to 16 his TD to turnover ratio was 4-9. If anyone would have told me he would end up winning a SB that season and be the games MVP I would have thought they were NUTS! I've never seen a QB turn it around as dramatically as he did at the very end of that season. I gained a lot of respect for Eli that season because it started looking like he was playing his way out of NY. It's simple for any objective Cowboy fan to figure out who the best QB is in the NFC EAST. All you have to do is see which QB has the most playoff wins and which QB is the only QB in the NFC East with a SB championship and SB MVP award on their resume.

Romo, Vick and RG3 have only 3 playoff wins between them while Eli has 8 playoff wins that include 2 SB wins and 2 SB MVP awards. Eli is only a year removed from his last SB win. Romo hasn't even been to the playoffs in 3 years and ranks 3rd in playoff wins behind Eli and Vick. Whether Cowboy FANS want to accept it or not there's only one QB in the division who's building a HOF resume and he's not named Tony Romo. One more SB win and Eli is a lock to have a bust in Canton. Eli has more SB wins than Romo has playoff wins if that doesn't put it in perspective nothing will. It's clear some Cowboy FANS still can't stop focusing on Romo's regular season numbers and his career passer rating.