NFL Cap Hit in Void Years - Cowboys 16

[5Stars]

And what are you here for? It's not to contribute anything football-related. Can't be. All you do here is pick fights and crack an antiquated joke that no one laughs at.

Use the ignore or get lost, one of the two.

 

[5Stars]

I really enjoy when the haters attack me. Makes my day.

Of course you do, that is why you show up.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Just read the thread dude. Several implied it including you. Do you think Jerry has the cash to do the contracts that Philly has done? Yes or no.

I have read the entire thread multiple times. I don't see anything to suggest your claim that myself or anyone else has claimed Jerry is poor and cant pay his players. If you can share just one single quote to prove me wrong you would have done so by now.

If you could humble yourself for one minute and admit you were wrong thats fine. I'm not going to hate on someone that needed to be educated, however the total lack of integrity you have shown speaks volumes. If you are going to call me a liar please be man enough to explain your position. To not is extremely cowardly.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Use the ignore or get lost, one of the two.

You're not worth ignoring, I'm just bringing up the hypocrisy in your statement. You argue and shoot insults. You offer nothing productive. No insight. And even your insults and arguments fall on deaf ears. Most ignore it. Even now...you had to engage with another position to be noticed. It's like a child vying for attention. It's embarrassing.

 

[5Stars]

You're not worth ignoring, I'm just bringing up the hypocrisy in your statement. You argue and shoot insults. You offer nothing productive. No insight. And even your insults and arguments fall on deaf ears. Most ignore it. Even now...you had to engage with another position to be noticed. It's like a child vying for attention. It's embarrassing.

Come on now, TMC, I'm not into your rabbit hole tactics today, go find someone else to argue with.

 

[thunderpimp91]

While you're right its hard to believe Jerry can't muster up the cash because he seems to be able to do it with his own players he wants. I've never seen him let a player walk he wanted because it was too much cash to front.

I pretty much agree. It's not that Jerry can't sign players, and you're right for the most part he doesnt let guys he wants to keep walk out the door. The interesting part to me has more to do with when Jerry spends money. We mostly avoid free agency and start spending later in the summer when outside revenue streams start to hit. Jerry lets the league do most of his spending so he doesnt have to.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I pretty much agree. It's not that Jerry can't sign players, and you're right for the most part he doesnt let guys he wants to keep walk out the door. The interesting part to me has more to do with when Jerry spends money. We mostly avoid free agency and start spending later in the summer when outside revenue streams start to hit. Jerry lets the league do most of his spending so he doesnt have to.

I don't understand the approach. Can't defend it. I don't get it. I'm not even asking for big money but to see them not even do a DJ Reader or Derrick Henry signing.....it seems to be intentional. I always thought it was done to keep his stupid *** comp picks.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Come on now, TMC, I'm not into your rabbit hole tactics today, go find someone else to argue with.

There's no argument. I was just trying to put you on game. Medicine is disgusting, but sometimes we need it to improve our health. Look at me as your Robitussin.

 

[Vtwin]

Come on now, TMC, I'm not into your rabbit hole tactics today, go find someone else to argue with.

I wonder is Mike Tyson was refereeing specifically to tmc with his quote about social media and getting comfortable?

 

[5Stars]

I wonder is Mike Tyson was refereeing specifically to tmc with his quote about social media and getting comfortable?

lol...I did my 8 years in the military, 20 years civil service, and TMC is 35 and still does not have a job! lol. Well, I guess rabbit holing anyone TMC can is a job I suppose.

 

[Spottswoode]

This has turned into a silly argument that can’t really be answered based on what we know.

The reality is it all depends on how Jerry is managing his wealth and investments. Can he get massive amounts of cash if he so chooses? Sure he can. But that ability and willingness will depend on how he has his wealth invested, the losses he might be willing to accept, and the amount of leverage he may already be carrying.

Some assets are very illiquid like real estate or the Cowboys or art/collectables meaning they are not easily or quickly converted into cash without possibly incurring heavy losses. Others like cash and many stocks are liquid and are easily converted to cash. He also has the ability to borrow against his existing assets to generate funds to invest in other ventures. This is an example of leverage.

Many of the super wealthy have a surprising amount of leverage. It doesn’t mean they are still not super rich. It’s one of the ways they have managed to become super rich. If you can borrow against existing assets and get greater returns, that’s a smart way to make money using other people’s money. But their diversification, overall liquidity, and the amount of leverage they have incurred is going to influence their willingness to utilize their most liquid assets.

And I can pretty much guarantee that Jerry isn’t going to part with any share of his team to generate additional resources.

 

[Rockport]

I have read the entire thread multiple times. I don't see anything to suggest your claim that myself or anyone else has claimed Jerry is poor and cant pay his players. If you can share just one single quote to prove me wrong you would have done so by now.

If you could humble yourself for one minute and admit you were wrong thats fine. I'm not going to hate on someone that needed to be educated, however the total lack of integrity you have shown speaks volumes. If you are going to call me a liar please be man enough to explain your position. To not is extremely cowardly.

Posts #12, 18 and your post #38. Stopped after that even though there’s plenty more.

 

[Vtwin]

Posts #12, 18 and your post #38. Stopped after that even though there’s plenty more.

None of those examples are saying what you think they are saying.

Since you're at least making an effort, answer the question you were asked in post 72. Answering that question will illustrate the point everyone is making.

 

[Rockport]

None of those examples are saying what you think they are saying.

Since you're at least making an effort, answer the question you were asked in post 72. Answering that question will illustrate the point everyone is making.

Nothing triggers a hater like accountability.

The second you call them out, their rage erupts not from innocence, but from exposure. They’ll twist facts, rewrite history, and paint you as the villain. Suddenly, you’re "crazy," "stupid" or "Jerry slobberer"

But their fury isn’t denial it’s guilt. They can’t handle truth, so they gaslight, deflect, and play victim. It’s not about reality; it’s about protecting their ego and keeping you confused.

Their anger proves they’re caught, not wronged. The louder they scream, the more they reveal.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

How do you know that he would have to liquidate assets? You don’t so quit acting like you do just to further your stance that Jerry is cash strapped. BS.

Jerry ain’t cash strapped. That term doesn’t mean what you think it does.

And how do you know he doesn’t? You have no idea. But we do know how wealthy people use their money, and how Jerry stays wealthy. My assumption is extraordinarily more likely than yours

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Nothing triggers a hater like accountability.

The second you call them out, their rage erupts not from innocence, but from exposure. They’ll twist facts, rewrite history, and paint you as the villain. Suddenly, you’re "crazy," "stupid" or "Jerry slobberer"

But their fury isn’t denial it’s guilt. They can’t handle truth, so they gaslight, deflect, and play victim. It’s not about reality; it’s about protecting their ego and keeping you confused.

Their anger proves they’re caught, not wronged. The louder they scream, the more they reveal.

It’s almost like you’re trying to dodge the question

 

[thunderpimp91]

Posts #12, 18 and your post #38. Stopped after that even though there’s plenty more.

Well first off thank you for citing the posts you are referencing. Hopefully we can have an actual adult conversation now that we have some context instead of just hurling insults. Lets look at the posts in question....

Or mortgaging the future. But it takes a heck of a lot of cash to make it work. All the owners are rich but not all are cash rich

I see nothing wrong here. Owning an NFL franchise does indeed require a massive amount of cash to operate. It requires even more when loading up on players like Philly did. This poster fully acknowledges that all NFL owners are rich, and is also correct in suggesting that no all are cash rich. I'd actually go a step further and argue that most NFL owners are not cash rich and utilize other resources to raise money. Philly, Miami, etc. have done so by selling off part of their franchises recently.

You assume that the franchise is cash rich.

Very similar to the previous post....Now there is a valid argument to be had to counter this by looking at the Cowboys annual revenue numbers. So from that perspective they are cash rich to some extent, however we also have to look at the expenses as well, revenue doesn't always tell the full story.

Yeah people confuse wealth and cash. Jerry has a ton of wealth, largely from owning the Dallas Cowboys. Take away the team valuations form their net worths and Jerry is one of the poorer owners in the league. The other money he has is going to be tied up in assets, not available funds to spend at the drop of a hat.

Again we are talking about the difference in wealth vs cash....Jerry is extremely wealthy, but a huge chunk of his wealth is tied into the Cowboys. Until owners sell their franchises they wont see the totality of that valuation in cash. Take that $11M or so that the Cowboys are valued at out of Jerrys net worth and he is probably right in the middle of the ranks, as the Cowboys make up a very high portion of his value. Being one of the "poorer" owners in the league does not make him poor. I do see where I could have worded this a little better, but the general message I stand by. These are basic things that even Jerry himself has acknowledged about how much cash on hand it takes to operate a team like the Cowboys. I'll have to look to see if I can find the video or not, but he spoke about the subject not long ago when asked about contract situations, and referenced Emmitt Smith's holdout and how even before the cap was a thing he had to hold his ground with Emmitt because he isnt able to just write blank checks to people.


IMO the issue continues to go back to you are not distinguishing between "wealth" and "cash rich". None of these posts suggest Jerry is poor, nor do they suggest that Jerry cannot pay his players, but again I do appreciate you actually making an attempt to justify your stance even though I disagree.

 

[Spottswoode]

Well first off thank you for citing the posts you are referencing. Hopefully we can have an actual adult conversation now that we have some context instead of just hurling insults. Lets look at the posts in question....


I see nothing wrong here. Owning an NFL franchise does indeed require a massive amount of cash to operate. It requires even more when loading up on players like Philly did. This poster fully acknowledges that all NFL owners are rich, and is also correct in suggesting that no all are cash rich. I'd actually go a step further and argue that most NFL owners are not cash rich and utilize other resources to raise money. Philly, Miami, etc. have done so by selling off part of their franchises recently.


Very similar to the previous post....Now there is a valid argument to be had to counter this by looking at the Cowboys annual revenue numbers. So from that perspective they are cash rich to some extent, however we also have to look at the expenses as well, revenue doesn't always tell the full story.


Again we are talking about the difference in wealth vs cash....Jerry is extremely wealthy, but a huge chunk of his wealth is tied into the Cowboys. Until owners sell their franchises they wont see the totality of that valuation in cash. Take that $11M or so that the Cowboys are valued at out of Jerrys net worth and he is probably right in the middle of the ranks, as the Cowboys make up a very high portion of his value. Being one of the "poorer" owners in the league does not make him poor. I do see where I could have worded this a little better, but the general message I stand by. These are basic things that even Jerry himself has acknowledged about how much cash on hand it takes to operate a team like the Cowboys. I'll have to look to see if I can find the video or not, but he spoke about the subject not long ago when asked about contract situations, and referenced Emmitt Smith's holdout and how even before the cap was a thing he had to hold his ground with Emmitt because he isnt able to just write blank checks to people.


IMO the issue continues to go back to you are not distinguishing between "wealth" and "cash rich". None of these posts suggest Jerry is poor, nor do they suggest that Jerry cannot pay his players, but again I do appreciate you actually making an attempt to justify your stance even though I disagree.

Kudo’s…I applaud your level headed responses in the face of unnecessary name calling.

 

[Vtwin]

Nothing triggers a hater like accountability.

The second you call them out, their rage erupts not from innocence, but from exposure. They’ll twist facts, rewrite history, and paint you as the villain. Suddenly, you’re "crazy," "stupid" or "Jerry slobberer"

But their fury isn’t denial it’s guilt. They can’t handle truth, so they gaslight, deflect, and play victim. It’s not about reality; it’s about protecting their ego and keeping you confused.

Their anger proves they’re caught, not wronged. The louder they scream, the more they reveal.

Rocky, nobody takes this stuff near as serious as you do. Nobody is angry. There is no rage. No fury. No screaming. Everyone has taken accountability for their opinion and offered their reasoning behind it.

Except for you.

Take some accountability and answer the simple and pertinent question.

Or continue to rage, deflect, gaslight and play the victim role. It's up to you.

FYI. I enjoy your presence here. The psychology is fascinating.

 

[mcmvp]

Of course you do, that is why you show up.

Unless the Cowboys go on a losing streak…then he disappears completely