NFL.com - DeMarcus Ware not open to paycut, 50% chance he's cut

[OhSnap]

Which is why I'm not surprised. Ware knows Jerry isn't man enough to cut him.

Yeah thats true because he didn't cut TO, MB3 and and almost the whole O-line just a few years ago. He wasn't man enough to give Jimmy his walking papers either nope none of that happened and Ware is safe.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

The 4-3 isn't what tore his shoulder up, hyper extended his elbow and strained his calf muscle. It might have made him slightly less effective but this is the way those huge contracts go, people rarely play them out. Usually they go somewhere else for a pay cut like to the Saints for example if they can find some money by letting one of their over paid vets go.

Fair enough but I do believe a good portion of the decline can be attributed to the move. Additionally if he is healthy now a team may be willing not to look at the injury. Ware isn't 35 and a season away from retirement, he's 31. He could conceivably play at a high level for 4-5 more seasons if everything goes optimally. He could get a large contract from a team this season, there are rumblings the Ravens may be interested (who run the 3-4 with occasional 4-3 looks that Ware thrived in) with a multi year, high money contract. If in a month Ware signs a 4 year, 35M contract with the Ravens could anyone really blame him for leaving? If he plays out the next two seasons with us he'd by 33, wouldn't get anything more than a 2 year/9M contract or if a injury occurs maybe a Brian Waters type deal missing training camp with around 3M for 1 season.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

I know how the world goes in a non-communist nation.

And you're right- to him it may not be relevant.
To you it may not be relevant.

I'm merely stating my feelings on the matter.
The guy has made a ton. Enough for him and several of his future generations to live off of nicely, if they're smart.

There are so many that are hurting just to put food on the table on a weekly basis for their families.
It appears shallow to refuse a paycut of such an extravagant amount.
He could easily be a bigger man and not hurt for money.
Easily.

I do agree with your premise though.
That's pure Capitalism.

The fallacy in your thought process is that wealth is not a zero sum game. The amount of money that Ware makes has no impact on the ability of those families to put food on the table. If Ware makes less, those people do not magically have more money coming to them. If anything, you should hope he makes more because more of his tax dollars will be available to go toward programs to help the truly poor and he will have more to give to charity. With that said, I hope he takes a pay cut in the interest of the team but NOT because of a flawed moral ideology.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ware's career got shortened by all the extra games he played in the playoffs.


Oh wait..............

 

[SDCowboy]

Same goes For Romo....take a pay cut.

What's wrong with these dudes?? They claim they want a championship, but want to eat up half the cap space, when they both know they can't carry the team for opposing sides, let alone even be a great threat anymore.

They need help, but want to eat up cap space. They both know they are being overpaid, this is why they may walk away losers when it's all said and done.

Big contracts, but no hardware

31TDs and 10INTs doesn't beg for a pay cut. Sorry to break it to you, bro.

 

[Sandyf]

First, let me say I seriously doubt that we cut Ware. Just not the Jerry way of doing things with his favorite player. Second, if Ware is gone then it probably will be via a trade and the most likely candidate is New Orleans. Ware's salary (not cap number) is roughly $13 million a year for the next two years. Any team that traded for him for convert a lot of that to bonus and have him sign a 3 year extension. Ware would fit nicely into Rob Ryan's defense there where they desparately need a OLB in the 3-4.

Ware's injuries last year and the extremely poor line play hurt him but with the D line in New Orleans and him at OLB, well things could be quite different. The only question is what would be his market value that we could hope to get from New Orleans. It is definitely a debatable suject. To me and my bias toward what I believe he is worth would be it would be switching places in the 1st round i.e. 16/17 for 27, their 2nd, 3rd and 6th round choices so for you math experts Saints giving up 163 points for Ware but Dallas picking up $7 million in salary cap plus having a 1st, two 2nd and two third round picks plus a sixth.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

First, let me say I seriously doubt that we cut Ware. Just not the Jerry way of doing things with his favorite player. Second, if Ware is gone then it probably will be via a trade and the most likely candidate is New Orleans. Ware's salary (not cap number) is roughly $13 million a year for the next two years. Any team that traded for him for convert a lot of that to bonus and have him sign a 3 year extension. Ware would fit nicely into Rob Ryan's defense there where they desparately need a OLB in the 3-4.

Ware's injuries last year and the extremely poor line play hurt him but with the D line in New Orleans and him at OLB, well things could be quite different. The only question is what would be his market value that we could hope to get from New Orleans. It is definitely a debatable suject. To me and my bias toward what I believe he is worth would be it would be switching places in the 1st round i.e. 16/17 for 27, their 2nd, 3rd and 6th round choices so for you math experts Saints giving up 163 points for Ware but Dallas picking up $7 million in salary cap plus having a 1st, two 2nd and two third round picks plus a sixth.

Seems feasible since they get to move up 10 slots in the first. I would be content with this. Not likely we get 2nd, 3rd and 6th. Maybe 2nd and 4th.

 

[Corso]

What I'm saying is that while I think that it's best for the team to do something different with his contract situation, he is well in his right to decline to do so. Now that may mean that he'll get cut but I am in no position to tell a person what he or she should do with their money nor do I want someone telling me the same.

Like I said to a previous poster- you're right.
I had a Momentary Lapse of Reason.

 

[birdwells1]

Like I said to a previous poster- you're right.
I had a Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Cool

 

[TwoCentPlain]

31TDs and 10INTs doesn't beg for a pay cut. Sorry to break it to you, bro.

IIRC, the last time I checked overthecap.com, Romo has a bigger cap hit for both 2014 and 2015 (or was it 2013 and 2014?) than some QB named Peyton Manning. Seen in that light, I'd say Romo is overpaid if that is, in fact, true.

Even so, it is not romo's fault for taking the money. The GM offered it and Romo accepted it. Both knew how it would adversely affect the cap and the ability to take part in the FA market in the near future.

 

[OhSnap]

Fair enough but I do believe a good portion of the decline can be attributed to the move. Additionally if he is healthy now a team may be willing not to look at the injury. Ware isn't 35 and a season away from retirement, he's 31. He could conceivably play at a high level for 4-5 more seasons if everything goes optimally. He could get a large contract from a team this season, there are rumblings the Ravens may be interested (who run the 3-4 with occasional 4-3 looks that Ware thrived in) with a multi year, high money contract. If in a month Ware signs a 4 year, 35M contract with the Ravens could anyone really blame him for leaving? If he plays out the next two seasons with us he'd by 33, wouldn't get anything more than a 2 year/9M contract or if a injury occurs maybe a Brian Waters type deal missing training camp with around 3M for 1 season.

I agree he's a long ways from washed up but he's at the age where the contract starts working against him and it might not be a good idea to switch a LB to DL when he turns 30.

 

[Doomsday101]

IIRC, the last time I checked overthecap.com, Romo has a bigger cap hit for both 2014 and 2015 (or was it 2013 and 2014?) than some QB named Peyton Manning. Seen in that light, I'd say Romo is overpaid if that is, in fact, true.

Even so, it is not romo's fault for taking the money. The GM offered it and Romo accepted it. Both knew how it would adversely affect the cap and the ability to take part in the FA market in the near future.

Romo contract is not out of line and overall Peyton contract is much larger. You are taking 1 or 2 years of an entire contract not the overall size of the contract

 

[chicago JK]

I am surprised so many want to cut ties with Ware. Age catches up to everyone and we will probably not see the elite level seasons from Ware any longer. Although, I think if healthy he could still be a pro bowl level caliber player. If he is not or if he is not back, that is a big hit. Ware is one of the best defenders in this franchise's history. We will miss him when he is gone. You remember how long it took us to find a replacement for Haley? I have huge concerns we are going to be looking for the next Ware and in time the next Romo for a long time....especially with our talent evaluaters.

 

[cowboyvic]

Defenses with Ware havent won championships so out the door he goes. Should've been done 2 years ago

By that logic Romo should have been sent packing instead of being given 108 million dollars. he has never won any championships. or even come close to winning any championships.

 

[EST_1986]

yeh defense doesn't win championships anymore....oh wait

Over paying a player who can't play like he used to doesn't either.

 

[The Natural]

By that logic Romo should have been sent packing instead of being given 108 million dollars. he has never won any championships. or even come close to winning any championships.

He should have been sent packing instead of receiving a 100+ million dollar contract extension. But this thread isn't about Romo so thats why I didnt bring him up.

 

[cowboyvic]

He should have been sent packing instead of receiving a 100+ million dollar contract extension. But this thread isn't about Romo so thats why I didnt bring him up.

I agree Romo should have been packing. sending Ware packing won't help this team. who you got that's better? Everett Brown is not better.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Cut him. Let him see who pays him like he thinks he deserves.
Ware, if you go, dont let the door hit your big butt.

 

[cowboyvic]

Cut him. Let him see who pays him like he thinks he deserves.
Ware, if you go, dont let the door hit your big butt.

Yea cut him when you don't have anyone better. you people are unreal. if you were so worried about the cap. then don't give a QB who has never won anything 108 million dollars.

 

[SDCowboy]

Yea cut him when you don't have anyone better. you people are unreal. if you were so worried about the cap. then don't give a QB who has never won anything 108 million dollars.

No, it's about releasing him and opening up a ton of space for players that, combined, can help the team a heck of a lot more than he, alone, does.