NFL.com - DeMarcus Ware not open to paycut, 50% chance he's cut

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DeMarcus Ware, DE, Dallas Cowboys


Once one of the game's most fearsome pass rushers, Ware's production has slipped as injuries have taken their toll. Ware posed a career-low six sacks and completely disappeared down the stretch during another December flop in Dallas.

The Cowboys are still a better defense with Ware on the edge, but a team edging into salary-cap hell might find it hard to hold on to an aging pass rusher due $12.25 million next season. Ware is not open to a pay cut, but would restructure his current deal, which has two years and $26 million remaining.

Chance he's cut loose: 50 percent

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...g-names-who-could-end-up-salarycap-casualties

he may be able to put together another couple of decent seasons with 10-15 sacks. but history dictates that edge pass rushers deteriorate quickly (see peppers) and making long term investment is not the right answer. we can probably restructure, pay him bonus up front, back load the contract and get another couple of years out of him and lower the dead money in the future.

but for a team, far away from championship contention, we should consider letting him go. it won't be popular, but it will signal a rebuild and end of Garrett.
 

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I'd try to offer a pay cut that pays him assuming his production will be a little better than last year but also include incentives to pay him well should he really pick it up again. But the thing is that he is getting older and odds are he is going to continue to have injury issues affecting his performance for the rest of his career. Sure he may have a big game here or there but the consistent Ware that we all knew is most likely gone for good.

Outside of that, if he doesn't take the pay cut then its time to let him go.
I will ask again. let him go and replace him with what?
 

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31TDs and 10INTs doesn't beg for a pay cut. Sorry to break it to you, bro.

So wait a minute, so stats tell the whole story, or you don't watch the games? And when was the last time those pretty stats(dink and dunk) got us to the playoffs??


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DeMarcus Ware, DE, Dallas Cowboys


Once one of the game's most fearsome pass rushers, Ware's production has slipped as injuries have taken their toll. Ware posed a career-low six sacks and completely disappeared down the stretch during another December flop in Dallas.

The Cowboys are still a better defense with Ware on the edge, but a team edging into salary-cap hell might find it hard to hold on to an aging pass rusher due $12.25 million next season. Ware is not open to a pay cut, but would restructure his current deal, which has two years and $26 million remaining.

Chance he's cut loose: 50 percent

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...g-names-who-could-end-up-salarycap-casualties

Point blank: You pay players for what they are going to do, not what they've done. 12.25 Million? Cut him!
 

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Tony Romo isn't average and how a fan that watches the man play could say something so ridiculous is beyond me.

Funny how when it comes to Cowboys fans you should only get paid if you win the Super Bowl. So what if your one of the best players on the team...just kick him to the curb because he hasn't won it all. Winning the SB is easy after all.

As for Ware he isn't going anywhere. He'll be restructured or maybe traded but no way is he being outright released.

Correct.

The man will stick around, get healthy, have at least 10 sacks next year, and end up in the ROH.

He was beaten up badly this year, but his weight-bearing joints are not shot, and he'll recover.

There's a lot of pride and determination there, and he will overcome.
 

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Defenses with Ware havent won championships so out the door he goes. Should've been done 2 years ago


100% correct.

As Branch Rickey once said....

Its better to get rid of a player a year too early rather than a year too late.
 

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100% correct.

As Branch Rickey once said....

Its better to get rid of a player a year too early rather than a year too late.


by that logic(i.e. not winning titles so shouldn't be here) we should have never drafted/signed any player after 1995.
we should just not field a team at all.
we also should have not had any players in 1991 because it doesn't matter that it would be a dynasty in the future only what has already transpired.
it is an absurd argument.

as to the Rickey quote....
like a lot of idioms it sounds good but it doesn't mean anything you can follow to a logical conclusion.

each player is different and you never know the end result of a player's returning until he actually does so.

i get you don't want to pay age and you don't want to sacrifice future caps while being 8-8.
completely fair and sensible arguments.
but that is a decision a team has to make about it's roster and it does not apply to merely one guy.
dallas has been going all in for talent and pushing cap space forward.
ware is one of the few examples where they've done that and largely gotten their money's worth.

to be honest i'd be fair more worried about the money given to lesser players such as brandon carr or sean lee.
 

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What Romo got is way to much. should have taken that money to help build a great defense. Seattle proved how you win a championship. and it's not by paying an average QB 108 million dollars. that's not Ware's fault.

Romo essentially got a 4 year extension for 68m. That's 17m a year after he was making 12m a year. Right in line with other top 10 QBs, which he is.
 

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Romo essentially got a 4 year extension for 68m. That's 17m a year after he was making 12m a year. Right in line with other top 10 QBs, which he is.

The Romo and Ware decisions are basically the same thing.
You either go for a winning team by adding as much talent as possible or you step back and re-build.

If we could go back to 2009 maybe we don;t keep either way but no one had a crystal ball saying we'd narrowly miss the playoffs each of these seasons.
 

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100% correct.

As Branch Rickey once said....

Its better to get rid of a player a year too early rather than a year too late.

Or in our case, many years too late.

I don't see what people are freaking out for losing Ware. He was completely useless and had about 4 simultaneous injuries going all year and is on the wrong side of 30. Which is never a good thing in this league, especially since his specialty is rushing the QB with speed and moves. Neither which he has much anymore. And now surgery is he being advised to do, he is refusing. Move on from him. Let another team deal with that. Take the hit and go forward and draft someone.

I remember someone earlier talking about how are we going to find someone to get 20 sacks? Lulz. Yeah that was how long ago? He got about 6 sack last year and I remember one of them being a garbage one at the end of the game.
 

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The Romo and Ware decisions are basically the same thing.
You either go for a winning team by adding as much talent as possible or you step back and re-build.

If we could go back to 2009 maybe we don;t keep either way but no one had a crystal ball saying we'd narrowly miss the playoffs each of these seasons.
FYI I along with a few others have been wanting to blow this thing up for a few years now. I was strongly against the Romo extension before playing out last season. We'd be in much better position right now for a complete rebuild or at the very least a strong discount considering Romo's back injury if we had let him play things out.
 

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Crawford replace him if he can get back to 100%. Or Ben Bass.
Are you freaking kidding me? Crawford and Bass. what has either one of them even done? neither have proved anything. and you are asking them to replace Ware? you guys are sickening.
 

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Are you freaking kidding me? Crawford and Bass. what has either one of them even done? neither have proved anything. and you are asking them to replace Ware? you guys are sickening.

You asked, I answered possible replacements. Never mentioned them replacing Ware.
 

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So wait a minute, so stats tell the whole story, or you don't watch the games? And when was the last time those pretty stats(dink and dunk) got us to the playoffs??


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If there were 52 other guys that studied and played as hard as Romo you wouldn't be talking about his stats. Seriously dude your saying the Cowboys havent made the playoffs because he has the wrong kind of good stats? LOL Thats NOT RIGHT. How bout if the D stepped up and pitched a shut out JUST ONE against one of those teams in week 17 the last 3 years? HOW MANY SHUTOUTS HAS THE DEFENSE PITCHED WHEN THE SEASON WAS ON THE LINE? How many shutouts has the defense pitched in that fake "win or go home stat"? But yeah it's Romo's high completion percentage and high QB rating thats holding them back. :rolleyes:
 

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If Ware refuses to accept any paycut then the team has to prepare to cut him.
If a signable WDE presents itself in free agency or the draft then that becomes a real possibility.

But make no mistake Ware isn't some money-grubber nor is he some bum.
He gave us deep discounts in the past with contract negotiations.

He has adopted children and a fresh divorce effecting his financial state.
He has also been widely charitable.
He is by all accounts a very good person.
It is absolutely not his fault Dallas overpaid bums.
Ware is a first year eligible Hall of Fame player.
Seeing him get peed on here because of ONE YEAR of single digit sacks is just a reminder how pathetic fans are.
Hopefully he sees taking a pay cut as a smart football move and takes a minor pay cut that allows him to play out 2 more years in Dallas.

Ware does not need to take a massive pay cut.
Because of how the cap works he'd cost us more to cut him now than to restructure him.
At a time when we need both DL bodies and every Cap dollar he has leverage as well as we do.
But he does need to take some pay cut. He can get a decent guarantee in FA if cut but he isn't getting 26 mil the next two years much less get that guaranteed.

Thanks for the great post. Keep up the good work.
 
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