NFL: Ezekiel Elliott's suspension appeal to stretch to Day 2

[viman96]

So I guess that was before they said 6 games was the standard punishment for DV. ??

No. It was way after. In fact the NFL has only suspended 2 out of 9 players the full 6 games since it became the "default" number of games.

 

[Direwolf63]

Be specific about what? I'm not the one claiming Mara has everything to do with every punishment the Cowboys get or anytime something doesn't go their way.

The only thing the Mara conspiracy theorists can point to is that Mara was the chairman of the committee that had a hand in "punishing" the Cowboys for breaking the "gentlemans agreement" with regard to the salary cap issue.

I've already stated my opinion on that several times but to sum it up I think it was a slimy move by Jerry and Snyder. Two of the sleaziest owners in the game who happen to be best buds and happened to try and take the most advantage. Sure, it was technically legal but it was a dirty move IMO and obviously most other owners opinions otherwise they would have ignored the agreement as well. No other owners had a problem with the punishment and it wasn't a one man committee.

It's also ironic how other fans can point the finger at Jerry for shady practices but no one here wants to talk about that or they have an excuse. The point is every team gets screwed at some point and every team seems and does get favored at some point. Whether its officiating, suspensions, scheduling (the Giants fans were crying about that this year and they did get the worst of it) but it goes both ways.

Just because the Cowboys don't have something go their way doesn't mean Mara was behind it but instead of acknowledging maybe it was Jerry or the player or the officials or Goodells inconsistency it's always Mara. It used to be funny but so many people seem to believe it now that it comes across as whiny, cry baby and childish. Now go ahead, everyone start frothing at the mouth and insult me or put me on ignore because you don't agree with my thoughts.

For the record, I don't believe Mara has anything to do with what's happening to Zeke. None.

That being said, the fact that Jones and Snyder were hammered for salary cap violations in a year when there was no salary cap is a freaking joke. And Mara was the king jokester in that farce.

Sure the owners may have had a "gentlemans agreement" about what they would or would not due. But it legal terms, that agreement also called "collusion".

So the sleaze was not what Jones and Snyder did. The sleaze lies with what all the owners agreed to, illegally.

 

[aria]

Calm down dear. I simply answered your constant reminder about how the(your?) Giants beat us twice and how having Zeke or not would not be a factor in this years games. Which goes against anyone's opinion that has watched football before.

Again, I never said Mara's goofy a** was behind anything. You're very defensive about when others attack him and you jumped to conclusions.

BTW, I like how now I'm not a Cowboys fan because I think since we lost to the Giants twice with Zeke and that we need to change our strategy that I'm off my rocker. I never said we would be better without him, I just said we need to tweak the offensive play calling which maybe we'll do instead of trying to shove the ball down the throat against one of the best run defenses in the league since we may not have him. If we do have him they may try doing the same thing. It worked twice last year, maybe the third times a charm.

Regardless its a moot point, I think we will probably win with or without him but it will be close like all of our games against them. I definitely see us winning 4 of the first 6, NY and GB are 60/40.

 

[viman96]

It's just pathetic sweety, it really is. I would defend most other owners only because this fan base is already known for being the most entitled whiny bunch other than the Patriots (who at least can back it up in the past 10 years) and instead of taking responsibility for their own actions there's always finger pointing and excuses. I guess Mara is just the easiest scapegoat since his team happens to be in NY and be a rival of the Cowboys.

I also dislike hypocrites which this board is full of. Pages and pages of Zeke being falsely accused by the same people making false accusations against other owners, NFL employees, officials or anyone they can blame other than an employee or player of the Cowboys. I bet Mara was buying Brents drinks all night before he decided to drive and kill his teammate. IMOF, I heard Mara was seen helping him to his car that night.

So why are you here? Seriously you have to have something better to do then troll an opposing team's board?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

This is the new era as far as public eye that is the opposite but same as before. In the past domestic violence was talked about but really overlooked now it's went the opposite direction and now if you pat a girl on the back to hard pitch forks come out. I truly wish on this subject and most other subjects that are so poloarizing we could see that both sides do the same exact thing just slanted towards them. If we all try to be in the middle not extremes of either side that would stop a lot of stupidity imo.

I'm all for objectivity and looking at each instance or accusal individually.

Nothing in this case adds up to Elliott actually having done anything from what I've heard and seen.

 

[phildadon86]

So why are you here? Seriously you have to have something better to do then troll an opposing team's board?

Apparently not. Still can't back up why Brown only got 1 game either. It is actually funny

 

[RoyTheHammer]

It's just pathetic sweety, it really is. I would defend most other owners only because this fan base is already known for being the most entitled whiny bunch other than the Patriots (who at least can back it up in the past 10 years) and instead of taking responsibility for their own actions there's always finger pointing and excuses. I guess Mara is just the easiest scapegoat since his team happens to be in NY and be a rival of the Cowboys.

I also dislike hypocrites which this board is full of. Pages and pages of Zeke being falsely accused by the same people making false accusations against other owners, NFL employees, officials or anyone they can blame other than an employee or player of the Cowboys. I bet Mara was buying Brents drinks all night before he decided to drive and kill his teammate. IMOF, I heard Mara was seen helping him to his car that night.

Hey let's make fun of a tragic incident where someone died.

Classy..

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Apparently not. Still can't back up why Brown only got 1 game either. It is actually funny

1 game for admitting he beat his wife on several occasions.

6 games for allegedly hitting a girl who has liked to police and is wuoted saying she's a white girl and he's a black man, she's going to run him and no one will ever take his side.over hers..

Sounds about right..

 

[robjay04]

I know I know it's not.

But Fish just tweeted that there is a "great new development" regarding Zeke.

It would be hilarious if this "surprise witness" is Tiffany. Zeke threw her a few bones and she goes on oath saying that Zeke didn't touch her.

Case closed.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Everyone remember when that Giants WR shot himself in the foot?

Now that was funny..lol

 

[Direwolf63]

I know I know it's not.

But Fish just tweeted that there is a "great new development" regarding Zeke.

It would be hilarious if this "surprise witness" is Tiffany. Zeke threw her a few bones and she goes on oath saying that Zeke didn't touch her.

Case closed.

Now THERES some wishful thinking for you........

 

[aria]

You do know that the league approves all contracts don't you? How do you punish teams for contracts that you approved? Also, that same year there were numerous other teams that signed free agents to massively front loaded deals with a large % of the entire deal coming in that first uncapped year and none of them were even questioned, much less denied or punished. Why was that?

The Cowboys and Commanders were by far and large the biggest front loaded contracts. The only other teams to do it IIRC were the Bears and Saints but to a much, much lesser degree which is why their punishment was leas. So please tell me who were the other "numerous" other teams and what were the "massively front loaded contracts" in comparison to the Skins and Cowboys?

 

[robjay04]

Now THERES some wishful thinking for you........

Never know.

She is on record implying that 10K is enough for her to leak out a porn movie with a Zeke.

What would 100K do?

 

[aria]

Right. Illegally colluding against a labor group isn't slimy at all.

Whatever, he was one of about 3-4 owners who tried to take advantage of the other owners and was one of the two overall worst and it wasn't even close. 2 owners out of 32.

 

[Philmonroe]

I'm all for objectivity and looking at each instance or accusal individually.

Nothing in this case adds up to Elliott actually having done anything from what I've heard and seen.

I agree and that's why I said what I said. Just like the election results if you based what was going on strictly on tv and the like you'd think most have some super proof he did it. That's not the case here. If they had Ray Rice or Josh Brown info I'd gladly say EE needs to sit down and take his punishment but the lack of evidence in this case has me saying the opposite. Just wish others would do the same instead of letting emotions/grandstanding run them.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

The Cowboys and Commanders were by far and large the biggest front loaded contracts. The only other teams to do it IIRC were the Bears and Saints but to a much, much lesser degree which is why their punishment was leas. So please tell me who were the other "numerous" other teams and what were the "massively front loaded contracts" in comparison to the Skins and Cowboys?

You cannot break a rule a little bit. You either break it or you don't.

 

[diefree666]

Be specific about what? I'm not the one claiming Mara has everything to do with every punishment the Cowboys get or anytime something doesn't go their way.

The only thing the Mara conspiracy theorists can point to is that Mara was the chairman of the committee that had a hand in "punishing" the Cowboys for breaking the "gentlemans agreement" with regard to the salary cap issue.

I've already stated my opinion on that several times but to sum it up I think it was a slimy move by Jerry and Snyder. Two of the sleaziest owners in the game who happen to be best buds and happened to try and take the most advantage. Sure, it was technically legal but it was a dirty move IMO and obviously most other owners opinions otherwise they would have ignored the agreement as well. No other owners had a problem with the punishment and it wasn't a one man committee.

It's also ironic how other fans can point the finger at Jerry for shady practices but no one here wants to talk about that or they have an excuse. The point is every team gets screwed at some point and every team seems and does get favored at some point. Whether its officiating, suspensions, scheduling (the Giants fans were crying about that this year and they did get the worst of it) but it goes both ways.

Just because the Cowboys don't have something go their way doesn't mean Mara was behind it but instead of acknowledging maybe it was Jerry or the player or the officials or Goodells inconsistency it's always Mara. It used to be funny but so many people seem to believe it now that it comes across as whiny, cry baby and childish. Now go ahead, everyone start frothing at the mouth and insult me or put me on ignore because you don't agree with my thoughts.

well now I know to ignore anything you say. Not in regards to Mara but as regards Jerry. He is a lot of things but sleazy is not one of them. And your BS about the cap penalty is laughable.

 

[viman96]

So troll boy is back. Does he answer questions?

 

[aria]

Are you saying we fans aren't taking responsibility for something or are you saying the Cowboys aren't taking responsibility for what you perceive they've done?

Examples please.

More the fans than the Cowboys. The Cowboys, specifically Jerry, is just an idiot for hiring guys with known "character" issues and they usually don't work out or are a major headache that just isn't worth it.

I'm not saying the fans necessarily don't take responsibility but they find excuses when things don't go their way. Mara is a prime example. Zeke getting in trouble and some fans here making excuses for him, I'm not even talking about the DV issue. We've covered his other dumb, ignorant, immature stupid antics over and over again. Instead of Zeke being responsible for his actions it's Goodells fault, it's Mara's fault, its everyone over reacting.

 

[Cowboys22]

The Cowboys and Commanders were by far and large the biggest front loaded contracts. The only other teams to do it IIRC were the Bears and Saints but to a much, much lesser degree which is why their punishment was leas. So please tell me who were the other "numerous" other teams and what were the "massively front loaded contracts" in comparison to the Skins and Cowboys?

I didn't hear about any punishment for the bears or the saints? Did they do the same thing or not? I don't care about what degree it was. They only cheated a little so we'll let it slide. Yeah that sounds reasonable. As I recall, Dallas restructured Austin Miles' contract and pushed $ into the uncapped year. Were they able to do that without the league signing off on it? Was there no league approval of contracts in 2010? Why are you ignoring that issue?