NFL: Ezekiel Elliott's suspension appeal to stretch to Day 2

[waldoputty]

Everyone remember when that Giants WR shot himself in the foot?

Now that was funny..lol

really who was that.

now the idiot who blew up his hand with the firecracker - now that is funny

 

[viman96]

really who was that.

now the idiot who blew up his hand with the firecracker - now that is funny

Plaxico Burress

 

[waldoputty]

Plaxico Burress

i see.
now i would be a real fan of Taco if he Theismaned Eli.

 

[aria]

Bold is exactly what I've talked about forever. People think they're on the right side so they do anything. Even though you apologized see how easy it was to be just like the people you claim are wrong? That's why I don't take most of what people say serious on either side because we all do the same things. The only difference is that those that agree with us don't call us out on our stuff and vice versa.

Well said Phil, well said. I even just went back to try and edit it but it's too late unfortunately. Again, I wasn't trying to make light of the unfortunate incident, I was just using it as an example. I really wish people here wouldn't do the same for any player on any team whether its an ankle sprain or career ending injury. It's very hard to keep my mouth shut when I see people hoping for or being excited about another person being hurt. I think it's not only cheap, desperate, classless but despicable. Unfortunately I have made some sarcastic comments I shouldn't have said since I've seen quite a few on here and no one else said anything about it.

 

[Melonfeud]

Nothing would surprise me. 6 game suspension stands. It gets reduced. It gets rescinded. It gets doubled. It's like in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. White was asked about Mr. Brown: "Either he's alive, or he's dead. Or the cops got him...or they don't."

Zeke's status is in quantum superposition. Schroedinger's Zeke.

Mr.Brown took a round to the forehead,, lol Quentin wrote himself out of that movie, quick

 

[Philmonroe]

Well said Phil, well said. I even just went back to try and edit it but it's too late unfortunately. Again, I wasn't trying to make light of the unfortunate incident, I was just using it as an example. I really wish people here wouldn't do the same for any player on any team whether its an ankle sprain or career ending injury. It's very hard to keep my mouth shut when I see people hoping for or being excited about another person being hurt. I think it's not only cheap, desperate, classless but despicable. Unfortunately I have made some sarcastic comments I shouldn't have said since I've seen quite a few on here and no one else said anything about it.

I understand you 1000% but like you acknowledged if you're truly better than those people you speak on on this subject why go down the same path so easy? That's why it looks fraudulent on your part and others who do similar things. That's life though tbh. I see people say this fans base fans are annoying like theirs don't have the same people. You can take that sentence and put it to anything including other subjects wink wink. Don't worry you're human just like me but just remember that next time you try to go moral high ground while quickly resorting to the same tactics you claim you don't like.

End of my "preaching" just was typing as an online "pal" and I don't think you're a bad guy even if I disagree with you sometimes. Peace

 

[Bleedblue1111]

I'm hoping Zeke's defense team had every single witness testify who to saw her before her fight on his birthday without injuries, have the two off duty police officers testify, and every person who heard her make any threats against him. Throw the kitchen sink at them!

True. Including the people that seen her at the pool in a bikini, I believe days after the alleged domestic violence incidents took place, with her showing no visible bruises.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

So troll boy is back. Does he answer questions?

Good to see I'm not alone in believing Aria is a Giant's troll.

 

[CooterBrown]

Can anyone just answer my questions:
Why didn't the police in OH and/or FL re-open the case or demand NFL to present their findings YET?
Why didn't the accuser and her lawyer go to court based on NFL findings YET?

A multi billion dollar organization says "we have evidence this guy committed a crime" and the accuser and the authorities are doing nothing???!!!!

I mean someone please help us make sense of this

I can answer your question:

1. Police closed their investigation and the prosecutor declined to prosecute Zeke. They really don't care what is happening now. To use an old phrase, "they don't have a dog in this fight." They have plenty of criminals to chase and prosecute and are not the least bit interested in the NFL findings in a case they are done with.

2. The accuser and her lawyer have no court to go to. There is no criminal case pending in court. There is no civil case pending in court. NFL findings are against Zeke, not her. Why would she want to go to court? And, because there is no court proceeding, NOBODY can make her do or say anything.

3. The police had "evidence this guy committed a crime." 'Evidence of something' and 'proof of something' are not the same thing. Evidence can be strong or weak, credible or incredible, testimonial or scientific, or many other things, but, it is still evidence. What one person believes is strong evidence, an experienced prosecutor or defense attorney can shoot holes in. The members of the NFL panel, obviously are not experienced prosecutors or defense attorneys.

It wasn't a hearing with an NFL officer asking questions of witnesses and the player's attorney doing a cross-examination. it was a tribunal (I guess since there were four on the panel it would technically be a quabunal, if there is such a word.) The panel decided who to ask questions of, and they asked the questions. There was no cross-examination and as such there was no way the witness' credibility could be impeached. The panel decided Zeke was guilty. The most important thing to keep in mind is that this was not a hearing or trial in the way we are used to hearings or trials. Because of the way the process is set up (blame the NFLPA for allowing it) the odds are stacked against the player before it starts.

And, just to clear up a common misconception: the accuser does not have any say on whether or not prosecutors decide to prosecute a crime, or an alleged crime. She accused Zeke of assault. But, a crime, any crime, whether there is a victim or not, is a crime against the laws of the State, and only the State gets to decide whether to prosecute or not. The accuser, has no obligation to do anything and is really just another witness to be believed or disbelieved.

Long winded I reckon, but that is why the authorities and the accuser are doing nothing. This is a dispute between an employer and an employee. At this time that is all it is.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

It's just pathetic sweety, it really is. I would defend most other owners only because this fan base is already known for being the most entitled whiny bunch other than the Patriots (who at least can back it up in the past 10 years) and instead of taking responsibility for their own actions there's always finger pointing and excuses. I guess Mara is just the easiest scapegoat since his team happens to be in NY and be a rival of the Cowboys.

I also dislike hypocrites which this board is full of. Pages and pages of Zeke being falsely accused by the same people making false accusations against other owners, NFL employees, officials or anyone they can blame other than an employee or player of the Cowboys. I bet Mara was buying Brents drinks all night before he decided to drive and kill his teammate. IMOF, I heard Mara was seen helping him to his car that night.

Whining about Mara being attacked, should be labeled as what? I imagine General Cornwallis of Great Britain would have received sympathy from you during the revolutionary war, huh?

 

[timb2]

Ezekiel should get out of it because the so-called victim's e-mails show it was BS. That is why the state attorney general had the charges dropped and never put to a court grand jury.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Lol, feel free to ignore me all you want but sleazy isn't one of them? Lol, as a human being he is sleazy. Perhaps you missed the picture above with the two strippers. Unless yoi don't consider infidelity sleazy than I guess he isn't. Having Blandino on the party bus sure appeared sleazy, at least most owners thought so. Imminent domain and using tax payers money to build an over the top stadium when he is a billionaire? Obviously we have different values and if mine are that bad that you need to ignore me then please do.

Sleazy is having secret rendezvous like the commissioner has been suspected to have, to push others agenda's. A sleazy weasel, as a matter of fact. The only sleaze I see in those pictures, is those women trying to reach in Jerry's pocket for $$$, while he is clearly inebriated.

 

[TheSkaven]

Ezekiel should get out of it because the so-called victim's e-mails show it was BS. That is why the state attorney general had the charges dropped and never put to a court grand jury.

Exactly. I don't care if Henderson reduces the suspension to one game, this is still going to court. Elliott's reputation is on the line and he's not going to accept guilt for something he didn't do.

 

[aria]

Whining about Mara being attacked, should be labeled as what? I bet General Cornwallis of Great Britain would have received sympathy from you during the revolutionary war, huh?

It's not whining, it's pointing out the hypocrisy of people here complaining anout Zeke being falsely accused with no evidence (rightfully so) yet doing the same thing to Mara or whoever. It's also calling out people for making ridiculous excuses instead of placing the blame where sometimes it should truly lie.

Cornwallis wouldn't have received my sympathy during the Revolutionary War but moreso after. Howe was an arrogant idiot and had Cornwallis been in charge from the very beginning we may have lost the war, he was the much more capable leader and strategist. After the war, he received a lot of flak for one particular decision that another officer, Clinton, should have received the most blame for. Corwallis unfairly became the whipping boy IMO. Do you disagree?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It's not whining, it's pointing out the hypocrisy of people here complaining anout Zeke being falsely accused with no evidence (rightfully so) yet doing the same thing to Mara or whoever. It's also calling out people for making ridiculous excuses instead of placing the blame where sometimes it should truly lie.

Cornwallis wouldn't have received my sympathy during the Revolutionary War but moreso after. Howe was an arrogant idiot and had Cornwallis been in charge from the very beginning we may have lost the war, he was the much more capable leader and strategist. After the war, he received a lot of flak for one particular decision that another officer, Clinton, should have received the most blame for. Corwallis unfairly became the whipping boy IMO. Do you disagree?

Benedict Arnold was a hero.

 

[aria]

Sleazy is having secret rendezvous like the commissioner has been suspected to have, to push others agenda's. A sleazy weasel, as a matter of fact.

Oh, but a "secret rendezvous" in a bathroom, that has actual evidence in the form of photographs, of a married man half dressed with two girls in compromising positions isn't sleazy but an "alleged rendezvous to push others agenda" with no proof is sleazy? Lol, this is exact what I'm talking about. Cowboys and JJ can do no wrong and someone who probably bashes the NFL for not having evidence of Zeke's DV is making claims against the Goodell with no proof. Haha...you can't make this stuff up.

 

[aria]

Benedict Arnold was a hero.

Depending on whose side you were on, yes. Actually, he was a hero for both sides at different points. He had a large role in the capture of Ft Ticonderoga while on the American side before defecting.

I never realized there were so many American history fans in here! Very exciting.

 

[robjay04]

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Depending on whose side you were on, yes. Actually, he was a hero for both sides at different points. He had a large role in the capture of Ft Ticonderoga while on the American side before defecting.

I never realized there were so many American history fans in here! Very exciting.

We on the right side in Canada don't like Arnold that much either. He only switched because he thought the rebs were losing. True loyalists remained so all along.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Since you clearly know everything, why don't you explain why Brown got 1 game to us unwashed.

I'm always down to help the less for fortunate. Josh Brown was suspended for one game prior to the events you described. So in your telling his suspension was reduced for things that happened afterwards. Hell of a job by the NFL to see the future.