NFL Files Suit for Hardy File 2 hours after signing

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Kaiser said:
Even if they try to issue a suspension Hardy will appeal. If you remember the Detroit playoff game were Suh appealed and then got to play, it would be a complete joke if Suh wasn't suspended by the NFL but Hardy was.

Oh, wait... what am I saying?
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Could he play during the appeal process if they dragged it out that long?
 
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coogrfan said:
The case wasn't dismissed until Feb. of this year. The story implies that the league only filed the suit because their requests to get a copy of the court file have met with nothing but silence.
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Wrong case...

He had a judge trail and was convicted. He appealed and the case was dismissed when the witness would not show up.

The NFL want the info from the first case.
 
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Crown Royal said:
Correction:

  1. Paralegal looked something over for 30 minutes.
  2. Paralegal wrote quick brief, signed by lawyer, 20 minutes.
  3. Lawyer charged @Dave_in-NC 2.5 hours
  4. Lawyer bought two drinks for 10 minutes of billings
ERGO

@Dave_in-NC bought @Dave_in-NC and Lawyer Drinks
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Actually you forgot one:

5. Lawyer gets reimbursed by his firm for the drinks as a marketing expense.

(I'm not making that up).
 
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Crown Royal said:
Correction:

  1. Paralegal looked something over for 30 minutes.
  2. Paralegal wrote quick brief, signed by lawyer, 20 minutes.
  3. Lawyer charged @Dave_in-NC 2.5 hours
  4. Lawyer bought two drinks for 10 minutes of billings
ERGO

@Dave_in-NC bought @Dave_in-NC and Lawyer Drinks
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I know I know. I was trying to make myself feel better. the real sad part is Dave usually drives dunk Lawyer home afterwards.
 
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AbeBeta said:
Just because he paid the victim off doesn't mean the act should go unpunished. That's a horrible precedent
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Against domestic violence from either party, but also realize that we may not really know what the facts are in the case.
 
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Dave_in-NC said:
Could he play during the appeal process if they dragged it out that long?
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I assume so, I honestly don't think they can suspend him unless it really is a witch hunt (which is possible). From the timing of Dallas signing Hardy before the league ruling, it seems obvious to me that Dallas did their due diligence on the situation and believe there is nothing there to use again Hardy.
 
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Kaiser said:
Actually you forgot one:

5. Lawyer gets reimbursed by his firm for the drinks as a marketing expense.

(I'm not making that up).
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Yeah but that's still based on the 30-40% cut they took off the lawyer as an overhead.
 
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mahoneybill said:
Against domestic violence from either party, but also realize that we may not really know what the facts are in the case.
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no real evidence to be had from all accounts. No doctors report; hospital report; no film or phone pictures; he said she said. So really the NFL is just trying to make it look like they turn over every stone when in reality I think they are trying to keep making the NFLPA defend bad guys so that in the next CBA negotiations they have a weaker position.
 

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If the woman was willing to take money for getting a beatdown.................lmao. funny world we live in. Hardy shouldn't get any suspension
 
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There's nothing sinister in the League's action. They are actually trying to expedite the situation now that he is signed to one of the Leagues teams. They want to be able to decide quickly in order to not hinder one of their ball clubs from making appropriate moves. Pretty standard for them to wait until he was signed to file suit for the documents.

What I find interesting is the fact that the DA is not attempting to comply. If the evidence is so overwhelming regarding his guilt, 1) the DA most likely would have pursued the case even without the alleged victim. He/She would have attempted to find a Hearsay exception that would have allowed in the transcript of the alleged victim's testimony in the Bench Trial and hoped that the argument was compelling enough to the Judge to allow it over the defenses objection. 2) the DA would have provided the documents to the NFL upon request unless the law in North Carolina requires that the evidence can only be released upon Court Order.

Also, the rules of Discovery provide the Defense access to the evidence to be presented in the Trial. So, Hardy's defense team may have the same evidence UNLESS due to the dismissal there was no Discovery yet...that I find hard to believe since there was a Bench Trial. That would normally mean Prosecutors had to provide evidence to the Defense prior to the Bench Trial.

Interesting that the League has to go to these measures. Thorough but interesting.
 
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slick325 said:
There's nothing sinister in the League's action. They are actually trying to expedite the situation now that he is signed to one of the Leagues teams. They want to be able to decide quickly in order to not hinder one of their ball clubs from making appropriate moves. Pretty standard for them to wait until he was signed to file suit for the documents.

What I find interesting is the fact that the DA is not attempting to comply. If the evidence is so overwhelming regarding his guilt, 1) the DA most likely would have pursued the case even without the alleged victim. He/She would have attempted to find a Hearsay exception that would have allowed in the transcript of the alleged victim's testimony in the Bench Trial and hoped that the argument was compelling enough to the Judge to allow it over the defenses objection. 2) the DA would have provided the documents to the NFL upon request unless the law in North Carolina requires that the evidence can only be released upon Court Order.

Also, the rules of Discovery provide the Defense access to the evidence to be presented in the Trial. So, Hardy's defense team may have the same evidence UNLESS due to the dismissal there was no Discovery yet...that I find hard to believe since there was a Bench Trial. That would normally mean Prosecutors had to provide evidence to the Defense prior to the Bench Trial.

Interesting that the League has to go to these measures. Thorough but interesting.
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So you don't work at Wallyworld?
 
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Outlaw Heroes said:
Relax. If anything this is intended to accelerate resolution of the matter, which can only help the Cowboys. The NFL doesn't want to be embarrassed, as it was in the Ray Rice situation, by having damning evidence come out after it has ruled on disciplinary action. They'll want full information before deciding on a suspension. The lawsuit is intended to ensure they get full information, and can therefore make an informed ruling, sooner than later.
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Rational explanations like this are obviously unwelcome

The NFL hates the cowboys
The media hates the cowboys
Many CZ posters who spend hours every day on this board even jn the off season hate the cowboys

That is my story and in sticking to it
 
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