NFL games to be on 10 networks/streaming services this upcoming season

[Tabascocat]

I can’t wait until Discovery+ gets a Wednesday game in a few years!

 

[Jake]

You may have this right. An NFL league spokesman would probably reply to this with some gobbledegook about "trying to make the games as accessible to the fans as possible".
Assuming the market (fans) will gladly fork out the cost of subscribing to XX number of streaming sites for more games.

They'll probably win that bet, at least during the current broadcasting deal (through 2032). Younger generations are used to paying for streaming services, so they don't look at these changes the way older fans (a good percentage of the people here) do. We remember the games all being on "free" TV.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

What a load of bunk. I miss the old/er days.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Well anyone with x-finity will lose their free peacock on June 26th. Oh well.

 

[DallasEast]

Well anyone with x-finity will lose their free peacock on June 26th. Oh well.

I had been wondering how some members have said they get Peacock for free. I have cable (and NBC) through Optimum. Nothing on both the Optimum and Peacock websites had any information about free service. An Optimum customer service representative chuckled when I decided to call-and-ask about adding free Peacock on my account. And I found this little tidbit (link):

His (Comcast CFO Jason Armstrong) investor conference appearance came amid increasing skepticism from Wall Street about profit and content spend predictions from entertainment conglomerates as they roll out costly direct-to-consumer streaming platforms. “It’s a costly pivot, and we’re right in the middle right now,” Armstrong said as NBCUniversal faces technology and marketing costs in launching Peacock, most recently with a focus on its paid advertising video-on-demand tier after ending free Peacock subscriptions.

Methinks current cable subscribers will be getting service rate hike notices about retaining Peacock in their programming packages in the near future if they have not already gotten them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Great for the NFL, not so great for fans. Can't wait to see whose playoff game ends up on Peacock. Welcome to 2023.

how in the heck can you subscribe to that many networks....NFL in its greed is dissing its fanbase and making it difficult for them to aggregate their fans.

 

[BermyStar]

Under 15 bucks a month gets me everything I need - hmu

 

[DallasEast]

how in the heck can you subscribe to that many networks...

The majority broadcast networks--ABC, CBS, NBC & FOX--are a part of virtually every cable or satellite basic programming tier. That's four networks almost everyone pays for.

ESPN, ESPN+ and NFL Network are usually regulated to secondary programming tiers that sports fans add to their channel line. Add three more to make seven networks commonly paid for.

That leaves Amazon, Peacock and Sunday Ticket. Those three are the only true wild cards in NFL gambling customers to subscribe to or continue paying.

Sunday Ticket is in a separate consideration arena by itself as the costliest NFL programming option. Directv had already proven it can secure a solid base of subscribers for many years, even with an annual customer retention problem due to pricing. Google's challenge is offering the Sunday Ticket service through YouTubeTV via streaming while keeping the most ardent current Sunday Ticket subscribers satisfied as its subscriber base to build upon.

Amazon is through its initial test run. The streamer has a customer base that has shown it will continue paying its Prime subscription and watch games. In its case, the what if is whether Amazon will continue including games as part OF its subscription OR suddenly make watching games a separate pay-per-view option.

In the end, Peacock is one new hurdle of testing whether fans will pay to watch games. The thing to keep in mind, no matter how upsetting it may be, is that the NFL does not care if every fan does not have an opportunity to watch every game. That fact was established when the league contracted Directv in creating the Sunday Ticket decades ago. The NFL is banking on *enough* fans signing up with Peacock to watch a limited number of games. That is the true experiment, for which NBC/Peacock has already paid over $100 million to the league.

 

[MS17]

They'll probably win that bet, at least during the current broadcasting deal (through 2032). Younger generations are used to paying for streaming services, so they don't look at these changes the way older fans (a good percentage of the people here) do. We remember the games all being on "free" TV.

Very good point (younger folks paying for streaming). That's the era we are in now, it would appear. You can bet it won't be more 'fan friendly' (less expensive) in the future.
Im in the older fans market sample. And I wouldn't pay for Peacock's one game or two if it harelipped the governor.

 

[bigdnlaca]

The only differences from a couple of seasons ago is ESPN + and YouTube. Don’t see what the fuss is about.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

You think that's bad? Just wait another 3-4 years.

As time goes on, I may need an extra hobby.

 

[jazzcat22]

Pretty sure that game is already decided.

Week 15 Chargers Bills

Talking the playoff game they just announced on Peacock.

 

[jazzcat22]

That is certainly your prerogative, and I respect that. I already use Prime, Peacock, and ESPN Plus because they offer other things I enjoy, so if the NFL joins in, fine.

I won't pay YouTube TV's ransom for Sunday Ticket, but I never paid DirectTV for it either. They don't offer anything else I want, and the price is exorbitant compared to Prime, Peacock, and ESPN Plus, combined. Hard pass, during the few early Cowboys games I'll just follow on RedZone. I prefer watching that during the early games, anyway.

My DTV just went up, again. My $50 off per month just expired. They said they can take $40 off. This is not good enough. They did give me MLB Extra Innings for free this year. So I can watch some of the Reds games.
I been searching for alternative steaming. Including DTV Stream. I can save about $80 maybe a little a month including that $40, maybe a little more.
Keep same channels I have.

As all the other options still do not have all the channels as DTV does. If it was just me, I would switch, but there are other people I must consider as well.

However as I looked yesterday.
I can get You Tube TV, for the $75, and get Philo TV to get the channels that YT does not have, for $25, and can throw in NFL ST if I got it at $249 ($25 per month average) and still save $75 a month over DTV. If I do NFL ST at all.

Going to look into that option today. May do YT free trial and see how it does. I already have Prime.
Need to find out how many of the Channels the others actually watch that YT does not have.

 

[jazzcat22]

Who says they must? I know that's how it's been, but Peacock paid $110 million for "exclusive" rights. Hard to believe they'd forfeit the local market for that amount.

FCC rules. Home team markets must show on a local over the air channel, if the games are aired on cable, or now streaming.

When games were on NFLN, they also were shown on CBS local in DFW.
Same fore ESPN games. They are shown on ABC.

Even the almighty NFL GREED can't change the FCC.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

It’s a pretty watered down product tbf. I’ll watch most Cowboys games as usual but watching any NFL games outside of that simply isn’t going to happen.

 

[CouchCoach]

Exactly. For example, both Apple and Disney lost to Google for the league's Sunday Ticket this time. The NFL knows there are other programming competitors willing to fork over billions more for the rights to broadcast games.

It is nine providers for 2023, excluding Google. What is stopping the NFL from making deals with 15 providers when the current deals expire? The league's prize is BILLIONS more. I doubt they will bend to viewers who dislike how its product will be split far more than it already has.

What was interesting is that Apple actually pulled their offer and didn’t actually lose it. Someone looked at the simple math and figured they could not possibly make money on streaming the games and it was not a strong enough promotional and marketing tool for their programming and would not appreciably increase subscribers.
They, reportedly, had a 3B offer on the table.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I just read on NFL.com that Peacock has the exclusive rights on the Jan. 13 2024 Wildcard game. This will be the first time that all playoff games haven't been on one of the 3 major networks that can be seen without having to pay some service to see it. At this rate the NFL will really stand for Not For Long. For economic reasons I stopped my DirecTV sunscription and have only used what I get with an antenna. I have 8-9 friends that have done the same thing so the NFL will keep losing viewers which means it will make it harder for the NFL to sell their product. Again Not For Long.

 

[blueblood70]

Great for the NFL, not so great for fans. Can't wait to see whose playoff game ends up on Peacock. Welcome to 2023.

I will not pay to watch a game, so only way fans can kill these types of experiments is to not run and sign up to watch.. low viewership and what not will kill these type of tests. if its our game SMH i wont watch ill catch it on streaming or follow on an app.. Just like i miss many Stars and Mavs games since the FWSW or what it was got cut and or moved off my YouTube TV..i catch the ones on the channels when it showed in my area...Or if its big one ill go to Bomer jacks and catch it at the sports bar.. I wont enable these networks and leagues to force me to pay.

 

[bigdnlaca]

My DTV just went up, again. My $50 off per month just expired. They said they can take $40 off. This is not good enough. They did give me MLB Extra Innings for free this year. So I can watch some of the Reds games.
I been searching for alternative steaming. Including DTV Stream. I can save about $80 maybe a little a month including that $40, maybe a little more.
Keep same channels I have.

As all the other options still do not have all the channels as DTV does. If it was just me, I would switch, but there are other people I must consider as well.

However as I looked yesterday.
I can get You Tube TV, for the $75, and get Philo TV to get the channels that YT does not have, for $25, and can throw in NFL ST if I got it at $249 ($25 per month average) and still save $75 a month over DTV. If I do NFL ST at all.

Going to look into that option today. May do YT free trial and see how it does. I already have Prime.
Need to find out how many of the Channels the others actually watch that YT does not have.

Or you can get NFL ST without YouTube subscription, and if you need cable, get sling for $55 or if you have spectrum for internet, get that choice streaming where you can pick the 15 channels you want.

 

[blueblood70]

The only differences from a couple of seasons ago is ESPN + and YouTube. Don’t see what the fuss is about.

most of those ended up being on regular networks as well , this from memory is the first time they wont do that , will only be on Peacock only