Nfl Network Friday night special..Who is Americas Team.

[theebs]

It is really a very simple story. I lived in Dallas when Dandy Don and Hayes were on the team. My father took us to the games - oh in the Cotton Bowl then. I became a huge football fan -- and when a team wins it is so much easier to like them. So I became a Dallas fan.

But I was a California kid. When you live in California (in the times when I lived there) life was just about as good as it can get. So before Dallas, football was not even on my charts. My father changed that when we lived in Dallas.

Then my parents became divorced and my mother moved to Rhode Island - with all the kids. I was a Dallas fan early on, but then I moved into my '20's and said, I want to experience what my father gave me -- going to the game. So, I signed up for season tickets to the Pats. As a adult, my tickets.

It did not take me long to fall in love with the whole New England area and the Pats. We were pretty bad then. But, I really can't explain it, I just loved the Pats -- you cannot believe the fun we had even though we were bums. So, I am now a 30 years + a season ticket holder.

Well, that's my very short story.

Cool man. I love the new england area. I am from central ny but live here in DFW now. I moved so I could be a season ticket holder 5 years ago. I have since become a fan of the rangers, so I understand how living in an area can change who you root for.

 

[utrunner07]

It is really a very simple story. I lived in Dallas when Dandy Don and Hayes were on the team. My father took us to the games - oh in the Cotton Bowl then. I became a huge football fan -- and when a team wins it is so much easier to like them. So I became a Dallas fan.

But I was a California kid. When you live in California (in the times when I lived there) life was just about as good as it can get. So before Dallas, football was not even on my charts. My father changed that when we lived in Dallas.

Then my parents became divorced and my mother moved to Rhode Island - with all the kids. I was a Dallas fan early on, but then I moved into my '20's and said, I want to experience what my father gave me -- going to the game. So, I signed up for season tickets to the Pats. As a adult, my tickets.

It did not take me long to fall in love with the whole New England area and the Pats. We were pretty bad then. But, I really can't explain it, I just loved the Pats -- you cannot believe the fun we had even though we were bums. So, I am now a 30 years + a season ticket holder.

Well, that's my very short story.

So how does it feel to pull for a team that was caught cheating and got away pretty much scott free?

And don't you wonder about ya'lls super bowl "wins"? I mean they BARELY one each super bowl and you know if they cheated against the lowely jets they cheated against every other team and in the playoffs?

So how does it feel to pull for a cheating team that really has accomplished nothing outside of cheating?

 

[SacredStar]

First of all with your facts... It would be impossible for the packers to fold. It is written in their bylaws that the team cant move or all of its assest go to some kiwanis club or american legion post or something. Did i mention that there is a 40 year waitlist for tickets. They were never in danger of moving or folding, you just made that up. They did have financial problems in the late 70's and made some deal with Milwaukee to play a couple games a year there. But, ****, there was only 50,000 people in GB at the time. I mean come on the stadium could hold the entire population of the town. You have NO IDEA WHAT your are talking about. They were doing fine until free agency came then they "needed" to improve their stadium to stay competitive or so we were told. But they were never in danger of folding.

Oh looky here......a link to revenue sharing info. What teams benefited?

By gosh.....Green Bay is one of them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1461-2005Mar25.html

Even though most NFL owners are rock-ribbed big-time Republicans, the league's success always has been based on socialistic share-the-wealth concepts. It would have been easy for the ownership of the Giants, the Mara family, to insist on keeping every nickel their franchise earned back in the early days of the league, and the Green Bay Packers be damned.


But the Maras in New York, the Rooneys in Pittsburgh, even Art Modell in Cleveland, all knew that the success for one did not mean success for all. Because of revenue sharing, teams like the small-market Packers, Vikings and others could stay competitive with the mega-market clubs, especially in the days before the salary cap.

 

[Idgit]

That doesn't surprise me that most of you cant locate Wisconsin on a map. You southerners aren't known for your intellect.

I am working on a PhD in Polymer Chemistry what do you do for a living? I am studying quantum mechanics while I type this, do you even know what that is? Called ignorant by a Texan......OUCH!

.... I go to school in Berkley now so go ahead and make all the comments you want about Green Bay being small, I KNOW! That is what is so cool about the Packers. And u forgot ice fishing, snowmobile riding, hunting, leading the country in consumption of beer and spirits per capita. But since there isn't that much to do we actually read from time to time.

I have to go now cause I have a life. But that felt good....thanks. And sorry about the GW quip, but I couldn't resist.

Can I make a comment? Your school name is spelled Berkeley, not Berkley, and Berkeley does not offer a Phd program in Polymer Chemistry.

 

[utrunner07]

Can I make a comment? Your school name is spelled Berkeley, not Berkley, and Berkeley does not offer a Phd program in Polymer Chemistry.

 

[superpunk]

Can I make a comment? Your school name is spelled Berkeley, not Berkley, and Berkeley does not offer a Phd program in Polymer Chemistry.

Oh snap!

OH, SNAP!!!!!

OH,,,,,,, SNAP!!!!!!!!!!

Super-sleuth. You must have gone to Barclay. mad props.

 

[tricksr4kids]

That was a heartwarming tale. I shed a tear or two.
You should sell the story and make a movie. Call it the Fairweather Kid, or Superbud, or Punch Drunk Pats, or Debbie Did Dallas, or Rhode Island: Possibly the Lamest Place on Earth and that is part of the reason the Pats don't claim a city or even a state.

But when you were talking about the greatest places to live with the most "enlightened people" and you only included places you grew up why didn't you include Dallas as well. Is it because you have lived on the east coast and SoCal and know how backwards texas is?

 

[SacredStar]

Can I make a comment? Your school name is spelled Berkeley, not Berkley, and Berkeley does not offer a Phd program in Polymer Chemistry.

:laugh2:

Does it offer a Phd for bs?

 

[tricksr4kids]

Wow you did catch me miss an e in Berkeley. I also put a the for they as well you got me you super smart guy.

But, I was ready to go get my tuition money back when you informed me that one of the premier research facilities in the US which is part of UC Berkeley: lawrence livermore national laboratory doesn't have any facilities to study polymer chemistry. Weird since many of the synthetic materials we use today were invented there.

Then I used my google just like you and found this website
http://chem.berkeley.edu/grad_info/prospect_research.htm which helped alleviate my fears.

Wow i was really Pissed for a second. You are right I made it up. I went to UW-Madison for my undergraduate because it is another of the premier research locations for chemistry as well. But now I'm checking just to make sure they even offer a chemistry degree because maybe it was all a scam.

If you would like to have a discussion about chemistry with me to test my credentials let me know. I am really into string theory right now (I know what ur thinking: string theory is a physics discipline) and would love to discuss with an itelligent person such as yourself its merits.

 

[Pats Fan]

So how does it feel to pull for a team that was caught cheating and got away pretty much scott free?

And don't you wonder about ya'lls super bowl "wins"? I mean they BARELY one each super bowl and you know if they cheated against the lowely jets they cheated against every other team and in the playoffs?

So how does it feel to pull for a cheating team that really has accomplished nothing outside of cheating?

Feels pretty good.

Perhaps with your attitude you should email tricksare4kids and you can both have a wonderful time.

I'm not sure who would outdo who. Go for it.

 

[tricksr4kids]

But that was pretty good for someone from Dallas. Frankly i don't believe any of you actually are from Texas being that you can all read and write. Don't you have some gay people to beat up or some ******** people to execute.

 

[Givincer]

But that was pretty good for someone from Dallas. Frankly i don't believe any of you actually are from Texas being that you can all read and write. Don't you have some gay people to beat up or some ******** people to execute.

I'm not from Texas, and I never let myself take offense to anything anyone writes on the internet, but what, exactly, is intelligent about this?

Being a student at Berkeley, one would think you'd possess a tad more cultivated mind than one which spews out complete garbage like this.

 

[Pats Fan]

But that was pretty good for someone from Dallas. Frankly i don't believe any of you actually are from Texas being that you can all read and write. Don't you have some gay people to beat up or some ******** people to execute.

Tricks, I cannot believe I am going to do this, but I am. I would normally only do this on our Pats site -- and believe me we get our share of morons.

Bottom line you are being very rude. And you are trying to make fun of people and places. Now if you lived in New York or Paris, well maybe I could cut you some slack. But Wisconsin????

I think you need to get off your computer and cool down. And they do have anger management classes -- go. Or go talk to -- utrunner07. Both of you seem out of the same mold. Boring.

 

[tricksr4kids]

Well most Packer fans I know say that stats don't tell the whole story....unless, of course, those stats favor a Packer player.

Let me ask you something.

1) How old are you?

2) When and why did you become a Packer fan?

3) Have you actually watched other great QB's in action like Montana, Elway, Unitas, or Marino?




It would not be impossible and it almost came to that. Why do you think the league went to salary cap, free agency, and shared revenues? The bylaws state that the assets go to charity, it does not state that the team can't fold. Why have bylaws unless the possibility of foreclosing is not real?

There were a handful of teams like Green Bay that were in danger of folding. Green Bay never had the money to compete with teams for players. If Green Bay had tried to sign big name players before the salary cap and especially before revenue sharing, they would have folded like a cheap tent. They simply did not have the money to compete until the salary cap. It evened out the playing field and it saved a few teams from foreclosing....Green Bay being one of them.

You, as a Packer fan, should remember the lean years when coaches of other teams would scold their players performing badly by telling them" If you don't shape up, we'll ship to Green Bay" . Nobody wanted to play in Green Bay. Nobody. The team was low on cash, had no interest from players to go there, and Green Bay was not a good place to play.

I can tell you're a post-Favre fan.



And I thank God daily for that.


As far as living in Madison, I have been a lifelong Badger fan. I have season tickets to Badger football games. I got my tickets before Barry Alvarez became coach. Anybody could get tickets then, simply because a lot of Badger fans are like Packer fans.....fair weather fans.

Once Barry turned the team into winners, the bandwagon filled. You can't even sniff season tickets now.

Im 28 and i remeber both lean years for both teams. It wasn't the salary cap it was revenue sharing and skyboxes that helped the packers compete and they still weren't in danger of folding, just sucking.

Ill agree that there are fairweather fans for any team that is successfull but there was still always a 20 30 year list even then to get season tickets.

And, you weren't born in wisconsin obviously and you never played ball there yourself obiviously. You are obviously a fairweather fan yourself and that is why you never liked the packers cause they sucked in your day so you picked out the most popular team and made them yours.

Say what you want about these losers they support THEIR team. They don't live in Dallas than cheer for the pats because their team is bad and the pats kick ***.

You are complaining about fairweather fans and are OBVIOUSLY one yourself.

Of course I am biased about Favre, (i was a majikowski fan though, invested all my money in his rook card in the 7th grade) because i am not a bandwagon fan. But the case can certainly be made for him being the best considering he holds every record available plus his durability and lack of supporting cast the last ten years the rest is just subjective.

 

[Idgit]

Wow you did catch me miss an e in Berkeley. I also put a the for they as well you got me you super smart guy.

But, I was ready to go get my tuition money back when you informed me that one of the premier research facilities in the US which is part of UC Berkeley: lawrence livermore national laboratory doesn't have any facilities to study polymer chemistry. Weird since many of the synthetic materials we use today were invented there.

Then I used my google just like you and found this website
http://chem.berkeley.edu/grad_info/prospect_research.htm which helped alleviate my fears.

Wow i was really Pissed for a second. You are right I made it up. I went to UW-Madison for my undergraduate because it is another of the premier research locations for chemistry as well. But now I'm checking just to make sure they even offer a chemistry degree because maybe it was all a scam.

If you would like to have a discussion about chemistry with me to test my credentials let me know. I am really into string theory right now (I know what ur thinking: string theory is a physics discipline) and would love to discuss with an itelligent person such as yourself its merits.

Those of us who actually live here and aren't ******** are annoyed by the misspelling of the name of the city or of the school. What can I say?

Your own link, btw, shows that the graduate program--graduate program, as opposed to the Phd program--at Berkeley is for chemical biology rather than polymer chemistry. Or are you talking about their inorganic chemistry program? That sounds more likely. They don't have a Phd program for that, either.

Tell you what: why don't you pm me with the name of your faculty advisor, and I can ask them at one of the informal Berkeley brunches I attend from time to time whether or not they have any promising polymer science students who are fat, inarticulate, intellectually and physically constipated (love that cheese!) and can't spell the name of their school or properly identify their own program.

If they say 'yes,' then maybe we can have a conversation where we match wits with each other.

 

[Givincer]

My suggestion, tricksr4kids: Stick to chemistry; your ability to formulate logical arguments is quite underwhelming, and, honestly, a bit embarassing.

 

[tricksr4kids]

I'm not from Texas, and I never let myself take offense to anything anyone writes on the internet, but what, exactly, is intelligent about this?

Being a student at Berkeley, one would think you'd possess a tad more cultivated mind than one which spews out complete garbage like this.

Well i guess you are wrong. The problem is too many people from Berkeley and other places like it are too classy to point out to the morons like the entire state of texas how they ruin everything for the rest of us. Luckily i'm not.

Instead the lowest common denominator speaks the loudest and gets things their way. See: THE NEWS.

Plus some of the people here are enjoying trying to take shots at me. I am the foil, the villian, the man in green in their little internet world where they get a chance to be someone special and feel like their opinion matters.

It is fun to get all mad at me and try to poke holes in my iron clad arguments. If i'm so ignorant and you are all (sorry ya'll) are so intelligent why have there been no responses with any wit to them whatsoever. I mean come on. Someone put some smack on me and shut me up. No one has touched me yet and the guy from wisco is the only one who came close.

RESPECT

 

[BigDFan5]

Can I make a comment? Your school name is spelled Berkeley, not Berkley, and Berkeley does not offer a Phd program in Polymer Chemistry.

One thing better than a ***** packing troll is a lying ***** packing troll

 

[BigDFan5]

Don't you have some gay people to beat up or some ******** people to execute.

Dont be scared man, we arent going to beat you up, or execute you

 

[tricksr4kids]

Those of us who actually live here and aren't ******** are annoyed by the misspelling of the name of the city or of the school. What can I say?

Your own link, btw, shows that the graduate program--graduate program, as opposed to the Phd program--at Berkeley is for chemical biology rather than polymer chemistry. Or are you talking about their inorganic chemistry program? That sounds more likely. They don't have a Phd program for that, either.

Tell you what: why don't you pm me with the name of your faculty advisor, and I can ask them at one of the informal Berkeley brunches I attend from time to time whether or not they have any promising polymer science students who are fat, inarticulate, intellectually and physically constipated (love that cheese!) and can't spell the name of their school or properly identify their own program.

If they say 'yes,' then maybe we can have a conversation where we match wits with each other.

IDIOT A PhD is a graduate program and all polymers are organic its impossible to make real polymers from inorganic molecules (those not containing carbon has nothing to do with living or not). Inorganic chemistry is something totally different. The degree is in chemistry which is a broad field. It's like calling someone a doctor when they could be a surgeon or a general practioner or a gynecologyst etc. My area of research is polymers.

And the chemical biology link is at the bottom for a different program the program the page is showing is the chemistry program.

Keep it up though you are on to something watson.