NFL network says T. Haley is the leak

Deep_Freeze;1092705 said:
Yet another case of TO getting victimized.
If he's been falsely accused of anything, then, and only then, can he be labeled a 'victim'. In those instances where he and the truth are mentioned in the same breath, Owens hasn't been a victim of jack.
 
Don't you understand? TO's serial crimes faaaaar outweigh Haley's alleged crime of "indiscretion." If he's late and insubordinate--and no one has claimed otherwise--then we need to know. Period. Punishing Haley is like punishing a homeowner for shooting an intruder. Keep your eye on the prize.
 
bbgun;1092855 said:
Don't you understand? TO's serial crimes faaaaar outweigh Haley's alleged crime of "indiscretion." If he's late and insubordinate--and no one has claimed otherwise--then we need to know. Period. Punishing Haley is like punishing a homeowner for shooting an intruder. Keep your eye on the prize.
So, TO's past behavior is a defense for Haley's breaking his contractual obligations? This is certainly a novel concept to me.
 
bbgun;1092855 said:
Don't you understand? TO's serial crimes faaaaar outweigh Haley's alleged crime of "indiscretion." If he's late and insubordinate--and no one has claimed otherwise--then we need to know. Period. Punishing Haley is like punishing a homeowner for shooting an intruder. Keep your eye on the prize.

It seems to me we know that TO has already been fined for late meetings in the past, so it is not like he has gotten away with it scott free.

Punishing Haley is for what haley did which was expressly forbidden by not only the HC but also the GM/Owner.

What haley did was NOT like shooting an intruder by any stretch.

If he had troubles with TO he needs to deal with it, if he can not than he or the player needs to take it to the Head Coach and then upwards through the chain of command.
 
bbgun;1092855 said:
Don't you understand? TO's serial crimes faaaaar outweigh Haley's alleged crime of "indiscretion." If he's late and insubordinate--and no one has claimed otherwise--then we need to know. Period. Punishing Haley is like punishing a homeowner for shooting an intruder. Keep your eye on the prize.

"serial crimes" ????????? What in god's name are you blabbering about? Squirtgun, you need to go back to the proverbial toilet and get a refill...
 
All I'm saying is TO was framed as the bad guy all week by fighting with Haley. For all we know, they could have been fighting about this issue.

We really don't know what he fight was about, I just have a feeling this might have had alot to do with it, and provided the spark. TO was late, ok, but the fight between them could have originated from this.
 
FLCowboyFan;1092374 said:
Todd Haley! He is the one who has been leaking information at Valley Ranch and Jerrry has busted him for it. It sounds like it was not just TO who was angry at him this week.
Can the mods put up a sticky with a chart for when we believe the media and when we don't?
 
Deep_Freeze;1092875 said:
All I'm saying is TO was framed as the bad guy all week by fighting with Haley. For all we know, they could have been fighting about this issue.

We really don't know what he fight was about, I just have a feeling this might have had alot to do with it, and provided the spark. TO was late, ok, but the fight between them could have originated from this.
It seems pretty obvious that the fight was about Haley leaking information. Thats basically what TO said on his radio show Friday.
 
tomson75;1092874 said:
"serial crimes" ????????? What in god's name are you blabbering about? Squirtgun, you need to go back to the proverbial toilet and get a refill...

I take it that serial crimes means serial infractions (late for meetings) and since TO already has a history of being late to meetings it is a serial thing.

Now of course like many they over exaggerate and such but I think that was the general gist of what he meant.

..Maybe.:D
 
jimmy40;1092878 said:
Can the mods put up a sticky with a chart for when we believe the media and when we don't?

No. So there you big meanie. ;)
 
BrAinPaiNt;1092872 said:
It seems to me we know that TO has already been fined for late meetings in the past, so it is not like he has gotten away with it scott free.

Punishing Haley is for what haley did which was expressly forbidden by not only the HC but also the GM/Owner.

What haley did was NOT like shooting an intruder by any stretch.

If he had troubles with TO he needs to deal with it, if he can not than he or the player needs to take it to the Head Coach and then upwards through the chain of command.

"It's not the crime, it's the coverup." And Jerry clearly favors a coverup. Haley, the innocent party in the mess, should not have to pay for TO's sins. How did we find out about the TO-Hugh Douglas fight? Someone "leaked" it. If TO can flap his gums to the press without fear of reprisal, so can Haley. After all, TO's an employee too.
 
theogt;1092879 said:
It seems pretty obvious that the fight was about Haley leaking information. Thats basically what TO said on his radio show Friday.

Well, that seals it in my mind.

TO had every reason to be pissed off, yet it was painted as him just being "TO" again.

That is what is disgusting to me. I hope he is jobless soon, although I know he won't be.
 
bbgun;1092890 said:
"It's not the crime, it's the coverup." And Jerry clearly favors a coverup. Haley, the innocent party in the mess, should not have to pay for TO's sins. How did we find out about the TO-Hugh Douglas fight? Someone "leaked" it. If TO can flap his gums to the press without fear of reprisal, so can Haley. After all, TO's an employee too.
You clearly have no concept whatsoever of legal obligations. Haley had one. He broke it. He was disciplined.

It's really not a hard concept.
 
BrAinPaiNt;1092884 said:
No. So there you big meanie. ;)
Lol. I think I got it figured out. The media is nothing but a bunch of lying, piece of crap excuses for human beings with a bias against anything TO or Cowboys related, unless it's something we agree with of course. :bang2:
 
bbgun;1092890 said:
"It's not the crime, it's the coverup." And Jerry clearly favors a coverup. Haley, the innocent party in the mess, should not have to pay for TO's sins. How did we find out about the TO-Hugh Douglas fight? Someone "leaked" it. If TO can flap his gums to the press without fear of reprisal, so can Haley. After all, TO's an employee too.

One can be dealt with behind closed doors if need be.

players are always interviewed by the media. The coaches allow that.

Coaches, under Bill, are not.

It's ok if you want to bash TO, I don't like him and I think he is guilty as well.

However to act like it is ok for Haley is crazy considering his known responsiblity and instructions from the team.
 
Does anyone no definitely whether Tom Haley is the leak?

Seems to me this was merely speculation, both on Dukes' part and on TO's.
 
tyke1doe;1092904 said:
Does anyone no definitely whether Tom Haley is the leak?

Seems to me this was merely speculation, both on Dukes' part and on TO's.
I don't know who Tom Haley is. :D

Someone should call Todd Haley and find out. He'll likely tell you anything you want to know.
 
bbgun;1092855 said:
Don't you understand? TO's serial crimes faaaaar outweigh Haley's alleged crime of "indiscretion." If he's late and insubordinate--and no one has claimed otherwise--then we need to know. Period. Punishing Haley is like punishing a homeowner for shooting an intruder. Keep your eye on the prize.

why do you need to know? it only help those with anti-Owens agenda. It causes more focus on one person instead of the team for another week.
 

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