NFL new discipline policy is a joke.

[dmq]

I know its premature. However, even the statement by the NFL about how they haven't decided on Vick's punishment. Then on ESPN they are claiming the NFL might run his suspension at the same time he is actually in jail.
ESPN was even mentioning how the healing has begun and he seemed remorseful....
Now Lance Briggs get into a high speed accident. He flees from the scene. (Most likely because he was drunk). Lovie's response: I am just glad he isn't hurt. No discipline will be instituted.

The NFL if this is the case (and no meaningful discipline will occur) is really letting me down. I abandoned 2 leagues now because the players were allowed to do anything they wanted and I lost respect for the players. I don't want the NFL to be the third.

 

[dargonking999]

go ahead

the NFL aint gonna miss ya.

 

[dmq]

Probably right. And I wouldn't miss it.

 

[CantonBound08]

Probably right. And I wouldn't miss it.

Then you probably shouldn't bother watching it in the first place.

 

[dmq]

man are you guys dence. I pity you.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

All I want is consistency.

-Leonard Little kills someone, gets 8 games.

-Ray Lewis kills someone but gets off, gets none...ok, fine, he was found not guilty.

-Pac Man isn't actually convicted of anything, and he gets a season.

-Chris Henry isn't actually convicted of anything, he gets 8 games.

-Ricky Williams fails drug test 35, gets a year.

-And now people are saying Vick could get 3 years?

It just makes my head explode.

Were I commish, here would be my framework. Obviously circumstances could change per an individual, but here's a nice framework assuming corroberation:

-Gambling on or ties to gambling on the NFL: Lifetime ban

-Murder or rape: Lifetime ban

-Vehicular Manslaughter: 3 year ban not concurrent with jailtime

-Drug trafficking/dealing: 2 year ban not concurrent with jailtime

-Assault (w/ guilty verdict or plea): 8 games

-Dogfighting: 8 games

-On-field Assault (a la Albert Haynesworth): 6 games

-DWI/possession: 4 games

-Substance Abuse: Same as current for positive tests, create other bracket for dwi/possession

There's a nice logical framework to work from. Then add 1 year ban above and beyond if any of the above charges carries proven ties to organized crime/gambling.

 

[Biggems]

dence or dense?

is dence even a friggin word?

 

[Biggems]

All I want is consistency.

-Leonard Little kills someone, gets 8 games.

-Ray Lewis kills someone but gets off, gets none...ok, fine, he was found not guilty.

-Pac Man isn't actually convicted of anything, and he gets a season.

-Chris Henry isn't actually convicted of anything, he gets 8 games.

-Ricky Williams fails drug test 35, gets a year.

-And now people are saying Vick could get 3 years?

It just makes my head explode.

Were I commish, here would be my framework. Obviously circumstances could change per an individual, but here's a nice framework assuming corroberation:

-Gambling on or ties to gambling on the NFL: Lifetime ban

-Murder or rape: Lifetime ban

-Vehicular Manslaughter: 3 year ban not concurrent with jailtime

-Drug trafficking/dealing: 2 year ban not concurrent with jailtime

-Assault (w/ guilty verdict or plea): 8 games

-Dogfighting: 8 games

-On-field Assault (a la Albert Haynesworth): 6 games

-DWI/possession: 4 games

-Substance Abuse: Same as current for positive tests, create other bracket for dwi/possession

There's a nice logical framework to work from. Then add 1 year ban above and beyond if any of the above charges carries proven ties to organized crime/gambling.

It isnt the dogfighting that has gotten people so angry......it is the total mistreatment of the dogs....the absolute abuse (electrification, starvation, etc...)

BTW....you cannot compare Leonard Little, that was Tagliabue not the new Sheriff.....also, Pac Man has lived on the police blotter for the last 2 years.....as has Chris Henry.

 

[Da Hammer]

it has taken u this long to figure out its a joke??????????????

 

[HighTechDave]

gawd, we have World Peace/**** Islamic Facists problems, and all you guys think about it freggin Vick.

man,,,,

 

[dogunwo]

Probably right. And I wouldn't miss it.

Means you probably arent that big of a fan already, if it would be that easy for you to abandon it. Plus NFL players have been committing crimes and getting off light for the longest time. Why now does it bother you?

 

[Big Dakota]

dence or dense?

is dence even a friggin word?

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu didn't see anything

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you can't really cite examples of players who broke the conduct policy before Goodell became Commish, and in turn, before the new conduct policy

 

[sago1]

First off who are the people saying that NFL's ban on Vick could run concurrent with the Fed sentence. Unless you heard it from the Commish's office, I'd discount it.

As for Briggs, more and more teams won't punish but leave it to the Commish. Besides the police will deal with Briggs & then the Commish. Frankly the Bears and Cincy have not shown any kind of leadership in dealing with troubled players.

 

[Hoofbite]

I had the same thoughts about Briggs when I heard his car was abandoned. Figured he was drunk and ditching the scene so he wouldn't get a DUI.

 

[superpunk]

I agree.

The NFL should suspend Lance Briggs because you suspect he may have been drinking and driving.

Then they should suspend McNabb because I suspect that he is a MAJOR douchebag.

Then they should outlaw happiness, and dairy products.

 

[Aikbach]

Not to worry, they'll wait to make examples of some Cowboys, they usually do.

Roy Williams will have excessive parking tickets so they'll suspend him for the season or Terry Glenn will father another child out of wedlock and they'll institute a cap on how many baby's mommas one player can have otherwise a half season suspension will be in place per child.

 

[burmafrd]

Supposedly one of the Henry's ( can't remember which one- Chris or Travis) has had 9 kids from 9 different women.

All the whiners crying about what happened before Goodell are just plain DENSE. Goodell has made a point of dropping the hammer. All discipline must now be measured by what HE does. Tag just tried to ignore it.

 

[THUMPER]

All the whiners crying about what happened before Goodell are just plain DENSE. Goodell has made a point of dropping the hammer. All discipline must now be measured by what HE does. Tag just tried to ignore it.

I agree, it isn't logical to compare what Tags didn't do with what Goodell is doing.

I also wouldn't go by what some mediot at BSPN is conjecturing will be the outcome and likely suspension for Vick.

As for Vick, I am not buying his apology. If he were truly remorseful about what he did to those dogs then it would have come out a long time ago. "Oh dang, those punks rolled on me! Now I have no choice but to plea to the Feds myself. OK, I am very sorry, I made some mistakes and some bad choices. I have accepted Jesus and have turned my life around. I hope all those kids out there who idolized me don't do the same things I did. Now when I get out I am going to hunt those muthas who rolled on me down and bust a cap in em!"

Does anyone really buy his weak apology? He is sorry that he got caught. He is sorry that his life is wrecked, for a while. He is counting on America to forgive him like we usually do when people say they are sorry. I could not believe how many people on TV were saying that they believe him because he seemed so contrite and humble and didn't read it from a prepared statement. Bah! He is a scumbag thug and I am not buying his remorse except for getting caught.

What I didn't hear in his apology was his understanding that he was heartless and cruel to those animals. That he was willing to be completely ruthless in killing the ones who didn't perform up to standards. I am not an animal rights person, in fact I don't even have pets, but I would never be so heartless as to intentionally harm a defenseless creature like that. It also shows a heart that is hardened and that has come out in other ares of his life over the last couple of years.

Sorry, I'm not buying it dude.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Only if you get caught.........