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The Cubs are in the world series. There isn't an NFL game out there that will beat the Cubs in the ratings. If it were Toronto vs Marlins sure..... but nothing will trump the Cubs.
 

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The Cubs are in the World Series. The last time they were, my parents weren't alive. My grandmother was the biggest Cubs fan I knew and she died at 84 never seeing her team win it all.

It's not the Cowboys. it's all about the Cubs.

The Cowboys are fine. Most franchises would do a lot worse.
 

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I'm just telling you why a lot of people are tuning out.

Baseball never beats football, especially a game like that. Last night, it did.

There are many reasons....American Flags, penalty flags, challenge flags

Target lost 10 billion because of protests....don't underestimate how mad some people are....not the ones on TV but the people disgusted by their actions
 

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I really think that they should get rid of the Thursday night games. Just leave opening night and Thanksgiving night.

Thursday night games are definitely bad, first off I don't like night games period - most people I know don't. It was one thing when there was a MNF game and it was a big deal, but then they added SNF which is pointless, and finally started shoving TNF down our throats. So add in the fact that there are too many night games, combine that with some brutal games being played on Thursday night and the viewership on those games has to be ridiculously low.
 

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As someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, TV ratings in general are down by about 10 percent. ALL TV ratings. It's got more to do with the outdated methodology used to gather ratings than anything else. People are streaming more than watching conventional tv, it goes for everything - not just the NFL.

Networks just estimate the streaming content that they can't directly monitor and they've been doing this for years. And the people that directly stated that the #1 reason they are watching less NFL is because of this one issue. There are others, but this came out #1. Other network content is irrelevant to the topic. There's a reason the league and networks are panicking about this. And one reason they can't "fix" it is because they refuse to understand the problem.
 

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This was a Seton Hall survey quoted by a Boston CBS outlet. They were talking about it on CBS sports radio this morning. This is a thing. Most people are turned off by it, and this along with the ratings proves that point. It's the only thing that's any different than any other year. You didn't see this kind of fallout during the 2008 or 2012 elections, which is why that excuse is hilarious.

Do you know what blogs.SHU.edu in the address means? It's Seton Hall, that IS the survey being quoted by everyone, including you. And you said the elections are an 'excuse' but according to the survey you cited - the one I included the link to - the election was given a 50% positive response, compared to the Anthem at 56%. So the people you cited think it is nearly as strong a factor as the one you are championing.

Did you even follow the link?
 

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Networks just estimate the streaming content that they can't directly monitor and they've been doing this for years. And the people that directly stated that the #1 reason they are watching less NFL is because of this one issue. There are others, but this came out #1. Other network content is irrelevant to the topic. There's a reason the league and networks are panicking about this. And one reason they can't "fix" it is because they refuse to understand the problem.


Please cite the actual poll that backs up what you are saying.

The Seton Hall poll that I provided a link to, which you appear to be citing yourself without actually checking, does not back up your interpretation.
 

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Oh yeah, it definitely isn't just one thing the NFL is botching, it's several. People are tired of the league and outlets like ESPN weaponizing sports by injecting all these activist causes into it whenever they can because the majority of people use sports as an escape, not as some hybrid sport / cable news thing.
Exactly...too many causes and Social Justice Warriors using sports as their stage...sports were always the place that left all that stuff at the door and it was just about the team and the game

NASCAR tried to cut out beer and tobacco and lost a lot of their core for a couple years off wanna-bes
 

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Please cite the actual poll that backs up what you are saying.

The Seton Hall poll that I provided a link to, which you appear to be citing yourself without actually checking, does not back up your interpretation.
Why are you ignoring what a ton of people on TV, radio, facebook and Twitter are saying.....no one is saying it is THE reason, but a reason
 

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Why are you ignoring what a ton of people on TV, radio, facebook and Twitter are saying.....no one is saying it is THE reason, but a reason

I don't follow tv, radio, facebook or twitter. I was responding to the fact that people are citing a poll without knowing anything about it, and without even following the link to see what the poll actually asked, how and who was questioned. I'd say it's FAR more likely that the people answering the poll, without being the people who actually 'stopped watching' are responding with a guess based on what they saw on tv, radio, facebook and twitter.

For the poll to have merit they'd need to find people who have actually stopped watching this season and ask their reason.
 

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I don't follow tv, radio, facebook or twitter. I was responding to the fact that people are citing a poll without knowing anything about it, and without even following the link to see what the poll actually asked, how and who was questioned. I'd say it's FAR more likely that the people answering the poll, without being the people who actually 'stopped watching' are responding with a guess based on what they saw on tv, radio, facebook and twitter.

For the poll to have merit they'd need to find people who have actually stopped watching this season and ask their reason.
Who cares if one poll has merit........the TV ratings are barely a poll.....it is all anecdotal.......but a ton of people have said they aren't watching because of the protests
 

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Who cares if one poll has merit........the TV ratings are barely a poll.....it is all anecdotal.......but a ton of people have said they aren't watching because of the protests

And that may be true. It doesn't change the fact that the Nielsen ratings system is antiquated and the poll people are citing has no merit. I'm arguing those points because I'm correct on those points. If a million people say they are not watching now because of an issue, fine. I'm not going to argue that. But don't expect to cite a poll where they called 841 random people and asked them to guess why ratings are down and not have me question the validity of said poll. People in this thread are doing that.
 

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Stop showing bad games, fix bad officiating and cut down on commercials.

Ratings go up.

The amazing thing is how long a game takes to watch vs how long it takes to play. Anyone with NFL Season Pass can watch condensed games - they are every play with all extras cut out. So they start a few seconds before the snap and show each play and then cut immediately to the next. Watching a game like that can take 30 minutes. That's 30 minutes for an entire game, without a single play missing. But watching it on TV takes over 3 hours. That's ludicrous, especially when you are showing a night game and starting it at 8:20 or later on the east coast.

Edit: Oh, and the teams might be something like the Jags vs well, anyone.
 
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