NFL's hardest hitter per NFL Live

[Wimbo]

I watched a few Steelers games last year, and Polomaleau whiffs on a lot of tackles. He diagnoses the play & gets into position, but he gets juked too often.

 

[Bizwah]

We oughta have a thread about hardest Cowboy hitter of all time.

Roy would certainly be on the list.
Woody too....
Eugene "the Hittin' Machine" Lockheart.....

the list could go on and on....

 

[J-DOG]

We oughta have a thread about hardest Cowboy hitter of all time.

Roy would certainly be on the list.
Woody too....
Eugene "the Hittin' Machine" Lockheart.....

the list could go on and on....

Don't forget Captain Crash...Cliff Harris.

 

[Shaun]

TP is no better in coverage than Roy. Simply, he had a very good FS playing over the top that allowed him to roam free. He was essentially allowed to freelance all over the place, which led to the number of plays he made.

Also, he REALLY upped his game in the playoffs. The difference between the current reputation of Roy and TP is that Roy unfortunately was beaten in a game that everyone was watching (MNF against the 'Skins), but very, very good throughout the rest of the year. TP was no where as good as Roy during the regular season, but everyone saw some of his great performances in the playoffs. For that reason, he will carry the reputation of being this spectacular player, when in reality there is no doubt in my mind that Roy is the superior talent.

One thing that sticks out is that even some Cowboys fans continue to insist that Roy was beaten even though it was really Aaron Glenn who got torched.

 

[kTXe]

One thing that sticks out is that even some Cowboys fans continue to insist that Roy was beaten even though it was really Aaron Glenn who got torched.

I personally don't put much blame on Roy for the first TD. He was shading towards Cooley, who was released by Newman into a zone. He actually made a pretty spectacular recovery to get into position to even come close to making a play on the ball (and he was very close).

The second one though, I would put about equal blame on him and Glenn. You just don't let someone blaze by you in that situation. Period.

But oh well, this topic has been beaten to death repeatedly and I don't intend to rehash it here.

Either way, it was really ONE play that has gone on to tarnish Roy's reputation with the lemmings of the national media. These guys (see Prisco, Pete) are imbeciles.

 

[riggo]

I personally don't put much blame on Roy for the first TD. He was shading towards Cooley, who was released by Newman into a zone. He actually made a pretty spectacular recovery to get into position to even come close to making a play on the ball (and he was very close).

i was surprised he didnt touch the ball on that play. still, on the replay, davis was on the other side, so i dont know why williams was shading toward the right side of the field.

as for the topic, i would have no problem with williams being at least among the hardest hitters. i dont see many steeler games, but i never heard much about troy being a harder hitter than roy.

 

[AdamJT13]

Is it just me, or is Troy Polomaleau really this good? I can remember him getting blasted in the media for being overrated as a rookie, and a year later he is the best defensive player in the NFL? While he had an outstanding year last season, does anyone else think he is worthy of this rating?

If anyone on NFL Live said Troy Polamalu is the NFL's hardest hitter, they should be fired on the spot. Period.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Troy Polamalu is the NFL's hardest hitter??? Oh man somebody needs to back off the pipe. That stuff is doing them no good.

 

[Hater]

TP is no better in coverage than Roy. Simply, he had a very good FS playing over the top that allowed him to roam free. He was essentially allowed to freelance all over the place, which led to the number of plays he made.

Also, he REALLY upped his game in the playoffs. The difference between the current reputation of Roy and TP is that Roy unfortunately was beaten in a game that everyone was watching (MNF against the 'Skins), but very, very good throughout the rest of the year. TP was no where as good as Roy during the regular season, but everyone saw some of his great performances in the playoffs. For that reason, he will carry the reputation of being this spectacular player, when in reality there is no doubt in my mind that Roy is the superior talent.

They say the only games that matter when it comes to a player's reputation are the big ones.. that said, Roy blew it in a game that, if we win, sends us to the playoffs, and Polamalu played his best games when it counted the most. I love Roy but Polamalu outplayed him this year when it mattered and the media attention he receives reflects that.

Maybe when NFL Live does a segment called "the best safety who unfortunately played on a non-playoff team and within a scheme not suited to his particular style of play," then Roy will get some attention in the media. Until then, Troy will, and that's the way it should be.

There's another thread on here where a poster whines that Favre won the '95 MVP over Emmitt, despite the fact that Emmitt carried his team to the superbowl. It's interesting to me how fans in general will apply a certain type of logic to one argument (Favre should not have won because he didn't play big when they needed him) but the opposite to another (Roy is the better player even though his choke in a big game was the difference between the playoffs and sitting at home in january), depending on which suits their favorite team/player better.

 

[kTXe]

It was week 2, dude. It was "big" in the sense that every game is big, especially one against a division rival, but it was WEEK 2! Looking back now, it made the difference between being in the playoffs or not, but by no means was it a HUGE game like you are making it out to be.

Roy came up HUGE in two other games against division rivals, forcing the Brandon Jacobs fumble at the goal line and, of course, returning the errant McNabb pass for 6. Also division games. Later in the year. One on the road. Those games were just as big, if not bigger. Yet, for some reason, everyone hangs on to those two passes against the 'Skins.

And considering big games, as was brought up earlier in this thread, Troy was nowhere to be found in the BIGGEST game.

 

[AdamJT13]

that said, Roy blew it in a game that, if we win, sends us to the playoffs

Other than the fact that it was WEEK 2 (not a game that would "send us to the playoffs"), the MISPERCEPTION is that Roy "blew it." Unfortunately for him, even though Parcells explained that neither play was Roy's fault, that MISPERCEPTION among most of the national media is what perpetuates the "Roy is overrated/Roy can't cover myth."

Meanwhile, Polamalu gets beaten deep left and right in the playoffs, and nary a word is said about his coverage deficiencies.

 

[Gamebreaker]

I've seen Polamalu make some nice hits, but hardest hitter? Not even close. I can name three safeties who hit harder and lay the wood more consistently than Troy.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

TP is no better in coverage than Roy. Simply, he had a very good FS playing over the top that allowed him to roam free. He was essentially allowed to freelance all over the place, which led to the number of plays he made.

Also, he REALLY upped his game in the playoffs. The difference between the current reputation of Roy and TP is that Roy unfortunately was beaten in a game that everyone was watching (MNF against the 'Skins), but very, very good throughout the rest of the year. TP was no where as good as Roy during the regular season, but everyone saw some of his great performances in the playoffs. For that reason, he will carry the reputation of being this spectacular player, when in reality there is no doubt in my mind that Roy is the superior talent.

Superior talent?? You've got to be kidding right? Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now. That's nothing against Roy but come on let's look at what he's doing nearly every game.

 

[kTXe]

Superior talent?? You've got to be kidding right? Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now. That's nothing against Roy but come on let's look at what he's doing nearly every game.

That statement right there tells me all I need to know.

You clearly aren't paying attention to his game-by-game performance. Don't get me wrong, the guy is certainly a heck of a safety. But your elevating of him to this God-like status based on a few plays you probably caught on SportsCenter makes you just as guilty as the masses that are calling Roy overrated based on 2 freaking plays in the Washington game.

TP's coverage skills make Roy look like Deion Sanders.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now.

I'll buy over rated but not best all around.

 

[AdamJT13]

Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now.

"Arguably" is correct -- and I'd argue against it. He doesn't make as many big plays as a lot of other safeties (including Roy), and he's protected in coverage because he moves to linebacker in nickel situations.

That's nothing against Roy but come on let's look at what he's doing nearly every game.

Even with Polamalu playing four extra games, Roy still made big plays in more games than Polamalu did.

 

[the kid 05]

Superior talent?? You've got to be kidding right? Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now. That's nothing against Roy but come on let's look at what he's doing nearly every game.

FALSE CLAIM! troy P. is FAR from the best all around safety, have you missed Ed Reed play the past couple of seasons? Ed Reed is THE best all around safety.

 

[2233boys]

The Media is on his nutz. He is a good safety, but the media freenzy surronding this guy is nuts

Originally Posted by ThreeSportStar80
Superior talent?? You've got to be kidding right? Troy P. is arguebly the best all around safety in the game right now. That's nothing against Roy but come on let's look at what he's doing nearly every game.

Ed Reed is...

 

[RealCowboyfan]

I remember someone by the name of Rodney Pete on the best damn sports show period had to choose between Michael Strahan and Roy Williams who was the hardest hitter and Rodney said he rather be hit by Michael Strahan that Roy Williams.

To me. Roy is the Hardest Hitter and the most creative Tackler in the NFL.


The NFL actually has a rule named by Roy Williams. Roy Williams put just as many people out in 5 seasons as Ronnie Lott did in whole career.

Can we forget Az Hakim when he played for Detroit Lions, he tried to fall down to the ground and Roy picked him up and slammed him.

How about Amani Toomer, he said something to Roy a play before Roy Williams knocked him out.

I know yall can't forget Jimmy Williams from the 49ers, he took a hit and was gone.

Roy put Tyrone Calico from the Titans out for a long time because his runningback Chris Brown wanted to show off by smooching Roy.

How about Kurt Warner when Roy Williams decided to blitz and knock Kurt Warner wrist out of place.

Who can forget Lavernious Coles coming through the middle during the Commanders game.

How about Josh McNown from the Arizona Cardinals, put him out for the game.

How about Emmitt Smith, which Roy Williams said on the best damn sports show period.

Emmitt said something about the organization and Roy Williams respond in saying some people talk and some people get hurt. What happen that season in Texas stadium against the Arizona Cardinals? Shoulder Blade perhaps.

How about when Roy Williams knock Shaun Alexander out. Actually knocked him five yards back also.

I could go on all day about who Roy Williams put out. He's a real intimidator.:starspin

 

[Natedawg44]

Roy has always been a big game player. It goes all the way back to the goalline play in the red river shootout.