Nice contrast to the Wentz hype

egn22

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http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/20...-he-was-and-there-is-nothing-wrong-with-that/

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What in the world does this have to do with North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz? Well I’ll tell you. I don’t want what happened to Jones, and what happens to so many prospects every year, to happen to Wentz. Carson Wentz (and every other quarterback in this draft) is not a top ten (or even 20) prospect, and that is absolutely ok. We just need to accept it and stop trying to make these passers into something they simply aren’t.

This summer I wrote about Wentz at a time where (it seemed) I was higher on him than most, saying that he had all the traits to become an excellent second day developmental talent at the position. Big arm, ideal frame, great leadership presence, and the ability to make fearless throws down the field highlighted my list of desirable traits that Wentz brought to the table. He was fun, exciting, and carried with him the promise of becoming a franchise quarterback if a team gave him time and proper coaching.

Fast-forward to January 2016, and many would have you believe Wentz is a top five prospect in this year’s NFL Draft. What changed during that time? Not much, as Wentz did improve his deep ball accuracy and football IQ some, but in starting just seven games due to a wrist injury this past season, the quarterback’s game remained largely the same. He still struggles with location and accuracy, operating from a wide base at times instead of standing more upright in the pocket. Wentz has a big arm that will occasionally force the ball into coverage, often because he processes his reads and opposing defenses too slowly in the pocket. By the time he’s made a decision, defenders have often maneuvered into position to make a play on the ball.

The overlooking of those weaknesses pail in comparison to the straight-up fabrication that Wentz had a great Senior Bowl week. The Bison product wasn’t awful, making impressive throws at times, but there were missed receivers, dropped interceptions, and slower than ideal decisions that no one is talking about. The best thing Wentz had going for him in practice this week was that the other quarterbacks on his roster looked far more hapless in comparison. It could even be argued that Wentz’ Senior Bowl performance left a lot to be desired, even in comparison to his fellow signal callers.
 

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some of Wentz weakness are Goff strength.he stands in the pocket like brady and moves around to buy time but always keeps his eyes on his targets.
 

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some of Wentz weakness are Goff strength.he stands in the pocket like brady and moves around to buy time but always keeps his eyes on his targets.

More like Bradford..

He's a Sam Bradford clone..
 

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nope.Bradfords problem is that he is inaccurate and tends to hold onto the ball a long time and get sacked a lot.


Bradford was as accurate as it gets in college except when he was pressured.

They both make people fall in love with their game because they have mastered the art of dropping the ball in the bucket with those down field throws.
 

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Wentz is a 1st round QB talent in any draft so I don't know what this guy is on about.

Go ahead a get the anointing oil...lol... they're working on the bust for Canton right now... smh... any draft!?!
 

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Interesting piece and take by the writer. I just hope that the evaluators for Will McClay and the Boys front office are accurate with their assessment of these QB's. It's a great opportunity drafting 4th overall but you have to be right or you set your team back years.
 

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If QB is the pick at #4 I'm good with it. But, also would support them pulling a Skins move by hedging their bets on a mid-round QB with one of the fourth round picks.
 

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Why wouldn't he be?

The guy has all the tools you could ask for.

He just didn't play at Alabama, USC, or Florida State. That's his biggest flaw.

He is not rated so high that he would be a 1st round pick in "any" draft.... especially when considering maybe an average of 3 QBs go in the first each year...
He would not be a 1st rounder in the Elway/Marino draft (along with the others that went 1st in that legendary draft)... Also, he wouldn't go in the 1st during the year
Eli, Rivers and Big Ben came out... there are others... he probably doesn't go 1st in the Luck/RG3 draft either.

He's a good prospect.. 1st or 2nd best in THIS draft.
 

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I totally agree. He is a good late first/second round prospect, Jimmy Garrapolo or Joe Flacco.

I feel like some of the other guys performed just as well but vs better competition. But don't get the hype because they don't look as good
 

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Carson Wentz's issues are things that are typically regarded as fixable issues.

He's got the physical and mental tools to become an elite QB. That makes him an elite prospect.

If you build a prototype QB, you want a guy who is 6'3-6'5, 215-240lbs that has enough arm to make all the throws, is a natural leader, is highly intelligent, competitive, and loves football more than anything else in the world.

Carson Wentz checks all of those boxes, period.

Is he the best prospect ever? No.
Will he guaranteed be an elite QB? No.
Does he have everything you could want from a rookie prospect? Yep.
 

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I totally agree. He is a good late first/second round prospect, Jimmy Garrapolo or Joe Flacco.

I feel like some of the other guys performed just as well but vs better competition. But don't get the hype because they don't look as good

Performance doesn't matter as much as potential.

Just because Matt Leinart can perform at a high level in college doesn't mean his weak arm, slow feet, and release won't show up in the pros.
 

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Performance doesn't matter as much as potential.

Just because Matt Leinart can perform at a high level in college doesn't mean his weak arm, slow feet, and release won't show up in the pros.

Definitely. Otherwisr, Case Keenum would have a fist full of Super Bowl rings by now.

Elite production in college does not equal elite production in the NFL.
 

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In a stronger draft with a clear-cut head of the class, Wentz and Goff would be teens picks. This is the draft they're in however, so value is going to be set by supply and demand.

I like them both and would be fine with either.

CATCH17's hate for Goff is hilarious though.
 

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He is not rated so high that he would be a 1st round pick in "any" draft.... especially when considering maybe an average of 3 QBs go in the first each year...
He would not be a 1st rounder in the Elway/Marino draft (along with the others that went 1st in that legendary draft)... Also, he wouldn't go in the 1st during the year
Eli, Rivers and Big Ben came out... there are others... he probably doesn't go 1st in the Luck/RG3 draft either.

You do realize that J.P Losman went in the first round in the Eli/Rivers draft, and that Ryan Tannehill and Brandon Weeden went in the first round in the Luck/Griffin draft, right? Wentz and Goff are both better prospects than Losman, Tannehill and Weeden. As far as the 1983 draft, the first round included Todd Blackledge, Tony Eason and Ken O'Brien. Would any of them be considered a first-round pick in this draft? Doubtful. Guys with career completion rates less than 52 percent or who have thrown almost as many interceptions as touchdowns would get shredded in today's pre-draft analysis.

Guys like Goff and Wentz would indeed be potential first-rounders in any draft -- just like J.P Losman and Cade McNown and Jim Druckenmiller, all of whom went in the first round, and just like Brett Favre and Drew Brees and Andy Dalton, who did not.

Also, keep in mind that the guy who wrote this has very little credibility as a draft analyst. As draftniks go, he's a JAG.
 
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