Nice stat on #1 QB's and 10 reasons to get one.

[dwmyers]

Uh I am 40, I saw staubach.

Who would you prefer in todays nfl? aikman or staubach?

I would go with theisman

Theisman, the CFL great? give me a break

Sorry, but as Skins QBs go, I'd rather have Sonny Jurgenson in his prime.

Staubach > Aikman, Staubach managed games better and was more mobile.

 

[Justis]

Theisman, the CFL great? give me a break

Sorry, but as Skins QBs go, I'd rather have Sonny Jurgenson in his prime.

Staubch > Aikman, Stauback managed games better and was more mobile.

Sonny Jurgenson, bah. I'd go with Slingin' Sammy Baugh.

 

[dwmyers]

Sonny Jurgenson, bah. I'd go with Slingin' Sammy Baugh.

Hard to know how good his passing would be in the modern age, but at least you could fill both P and QB with the same guy.

 

[Justis]

Hard to know how good his passing would be in the modern age, but at least you could fill both P and QB with the same guy.

He'd have to be great, he threw around that watermelon that some fool decided to call a football just fine.

 

[Hostile]

How is this for facts.

7 out of the last 8 #1 picks in the NFL draft have been...drum roll...you guessed it QBs.

BTW after Leinart gets drafted #1 overall next year, you can make that 8 out of the last 9 overall #1 picks being a QB.

Mind you, we are not talking about fantasy football here. These are real GMs that year after year after year keep searching for that elite #1 QB.

Why you must ask? Well, because a GM knows if they can nail that spot down there chances of being a perrenial contender are really good.

I tell you this all the time, post more.

The point I am making is perenial contender. If you have one of those QBs you have a shot at that. From there the pieces just need to fit and work together. For all the whining about how much cap space these QBs eat up I don't see it crippling their teams. Hell, the Eagles are as much under the cap as we are.

 

[Justis]

I tell you this all the time, post more.

The point I am making is perenial contender. If you have one of those QBs you have a shot at that. From there the pieces just need to fit and work together. For all the whining about how much cap space these QBs eat up I don't see it crippling their teams. Hell, the Eagles are as much under the cap as we are.

The Eagles are a hard-nosed organization who pretty much pay Owens and Mcnabb, and that's about it. You wonder why they drop franchise tags? I don't know the numbers but I imagine that there are only a handful of players on that team that make more than a million a year. There have been perenial playoff teams that didn't have a prototypical 1st round QB and did just fine. See: Ravens of 2000-2003, Bucs of the late 90s into 2002, Vikings of the late 90s.

 

[Hostile]

The Eagles are a hard-nosed organization who pretty much pay Owens and Mcnabb, and that's about it. You wonder why they drop franchise tags? I don't know the numbers but I imagine that there are only a handful of players on that team that make more than a million a year. There have been perenial playoff teams that didn't have a prototypical 1st round QB and did just fine. See: Ravens of 2000-2003, Bucs of the late 90s into 2002, Vikings of the late 90s.

I need to look up the 12 highest paid QBs in the NFL just for fun. See how many of them are the playoff QBs this year. I bet the % is pretty eye opening...for some.

:wink2:

 

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[gbrittain]

I tell you this all the time, post more.

The point I am making is perenial contender. If you have one of those QBs you have a shot at that. From there the pieces just need to fit and work together. For all the whining about how much cap space these QBs eat up I don't see it crippling their teams. Hell, the Eagles are as much under the cap as we are.

Thanks for the Kudos Hos. It means a lot coming from you.

Now you know what drives me nuts. There are those who try to downplay the importance of the QB by saying look at the B-More defense and the Superbowl they won.

That is right, comparing one single player to an entire unit.

I suppose there would be merit to this argumnet if you could hear Paul Tagliabue announce: "With the 1st overall selection in the 2006 draft, The Houston Texans select out of Alabama DEFENSE.

There is simply not a single player on the field more important to continuous success than the QB.

 

[Hostile]

Thanks for the Kudos Hos. It means a lot coming from you.

Now you know what drives me nuts. There are those who try to downplay the importance of the QB by saying look at the B-More defense and the Superbowl they won.

That is right, comparing one single player to an entire unit.

I suppose there would be merit to this argumnet if you could hear Paul Tagliabue announce: "With the 1st overall selection in the 2006 draft, The Houston Texans select out of Alabama DEFENSE.

There is simply not a single player on the field more important to continuous success than the QB.

:bravo:

Couldn't agree more. I say again that if our coaching staff can not bring out the potential in Drew Henson then it is really sad. They admit he has big time tools. Now develop them.

 

[Dallas31]

"Top 6 passers right now were all drafted in the first round. Coincidence? Obviously not, people may point to teams like the Ravens who won the superbowl with Dilfer, or Brady a 6th round pick. But for the most part if you want a qb with big time potential it has to be done in the first."

Dilfer was a top 10 pick in the 1st round of the draft.

 

[jay cee]

Henson has belonged to both the New York Yankees and the Houston Texans since he left college. I wouldn't call him a retread but he is not a traditional 1st round franchise guy by any means. He has what 5 seasons of professional sports under his belt yet has started 1 NFL game? Drew Bledsoe had taken his team to a Super Bowl by then.

Elway himself admits he was no where near the QB he had been when they won those titles. He was gray-headed and playing within himself and the confines of the offense.

The problem with the term bus driver is everyone wants to create their own definition so it becomes a completely sematical argument.

Troy Aikman was efficient but calculated. He stayed within the offense at all times and relied on execution not superior play to win games. He seldom passed for high yardage totals or produced comeback wins. He had a fine bus to drive and he drove it to the promised land. There was little chance Aikman would ever lose a game where he had the best team or raise a team on his own when they were inferior. IMHO thats the perfect definiton of a bus driver. And I think Aikman was the best in the modern history of the game.

Outstanding Post. I could not agree more. I would only add, and I am sure you agree, Aikman is deservedly a 1st ballot hall of famer.

Too many people think, saying that he played the game in the style that fits the bus driver description is an insult.

I don't, he was great when leading the better team. Just because he did not carry the team to victory when they were inferior does not mean that he was not an excellent player.

 

[Dallas31]

wow after seeing chris leak for the first time live, the guy seems absolutely freakin clueless. not only has he been horribly inaccurate, he threw a 5 yard pass to the middle TWICE with 40 seconds left in the half one of which should have been an INT. Will definitely be a later round pick.

I don't know why some people are so high on this kid.

The times I seem to watch him he flat out sucks.