No FA signing by JJ would've made the Cowboys appreciably better in 2024

SteveTheCowboy · Thursday at 2:50 PM

MikeT22 said:
Im just critiquing him more harshly, and its well deserved. Stop your whining.

Gameover gave you a thumbs up here...troll detection alert activated.

ClappingCarrot · Thursday at 2:51 PM

I feel like this is a Jones apologist take.

You can only improve your roster if you TRY to at least get better at what you're doing.

I would have far less criticism of the Joneses if there was any empirical evidence that there was any effort on their part to improve the roster. Pressuring your regional scouts to do it for you every year via the draft is cheap, lazy, and most importantly unrealistic.

ShortRound · Thursday at 2:51 PM

I agree but only because Chat summarized your post; could have saved a whole page of writing:

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The Cowboys' roster decay started years ago, and their failure to strengthen their core when it mattered has led to a decline that can’t be fixed with quick free agency moves in 2024.
Meanwhile, the Eagles have dominated by reinforcing a championship-level team rather than relying on splash signings.

youngjerryjones · Thursday at 2:54 PM

_sturt_ said:
I'm not one to pedantically keep receipts on precisely who are the hypocrites, but as one of the too-few last off-season who was skeptical of this idea so widely accepted here that the Cowboys have some magic touch when it comes to drafting and then inserting as starters their rookie linemen.

Here just to say... you were wrong... a whole friggin bunch of you reading this right now were ice cold wrong.

I tend to agree with the OP as a consequence, at least for all those whining we should've signed experienced successful running backs and wideouts.

If you don't have the O-line--and especially don't have a center and a left tackle--that are going to perform as stand outs, then that on its own neutralizes to a huge degree any success you can hope to see from the skill positions.

And worse... if there is such a thing... on the other side of the ball, of course, you lost your first one, two, three, four edges. That's just incredible and absurd. That rarely if ever has happened to a team.

It's a tried-and-truism... you have to have the trenches well taken care-of before you can have any serious ambition in the NFL to have any degree of success.

last year was a re-building year... just happened that Dak got injured and the FO got away with it... for anyone who thinks otherwise they are fooled

TequilaCowboy · Thursday at 3:11 PM

We won’t ever know since he didn’t sign one…. What we do know is he doomed the Cowboys for the next four years by signing Dak.

Jerry has no real plan on making the team better. No direction, like a rudderless ship.

DuncanIso · Thursday at 4:53 PM

Havic said:
I think Barkley / Henry alone would have gave the team 1-2 more wins, even with all the injuries

Henry is on a 2YR/16M contract.

Barkley is 3YR/37M

we are cap broke. Can afford neither.

DuncanIso · Thursday at 5:00 PM

zrinkill said:
Yea ........ been hearing that since Carson Wentz ........ 3 superbowls later

overtheCap

it doesn’t end well.

DuncanIso · Thursday at 5:01 PM

TequilaCowboy said:
We won’t ever know since he didn’t sign one…. What we do know is he doomed the Cowboys for the next four years by signing Dak.

Jerry has no real plan on making the team better. No direction, like a rudderless ship.

the cap looks better In 2026.

CowboysFaninHouston · Thursday at 5:03 PM

Gameover said:
The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?

there wasn't a single FA signing that would have made a difference. but we needed several. there was definite gaps on the team that could have been closed.
so I tend to disagree.
if we would have signed, lets say either Henry or Barkley....would they not have better impact than Zeke?
if we signed a Christian Wilkins or Javon Kinlaw instead of Joseph
if we signed Gardner Johnson (who went to philly)
or signed a LT and let the rookie learn for one year,

we missed on the 23 draft. it sucked. then we sucked in 24 draft. and when you suck two years in a row in draft, then you have to fill in from FA to stay competitive.

gtb1943 · Thursday at 5:05 PM

DuncanIso said:
overtheCap

it doesn’t end well.

Getting to several SBs and wining a couple is worth it.

HungryLion · Thursday at 5:08 PM

DuncanIso said:
Salary Cap.

something the Eagles fans will be crying about soon.

the Eagles use void contracts.

I’m sure eagles fans are really stressed out about the salary cap right now.

HungryLion · Thursday at 5:12 PM

Whose fault is it that the cowboys core is depleted by the way?

Could multiple high draft pick busts have something to do with it also?

Guyton is a stuff so far.

Mazi is awful.

Schoonmaker is a backup tight end.

Sam Williams has done nothing so far.

Yes the cowboys core is depleted but that’s also just an indictment on the cowboys philosophy overall. They rely solely on the draft. Their drafting has been mid, at best, the last couple of years so far.

FuzzyLumpkins · Thursday at 5:51 PM

cowboyec said:
i'd love to have seen the difference made or not made by derrick henry on last season.
LOVE to have seen it.

Given what he did in Baltimore and what Dowdle did when given a chance I too would have liked that.

StarLord · Thursday at 6:00 PM

kskboys said:
1. Personnel
2. Drafting
3. The salary cap
4. What it takes for super bowl contention.
5. What effect a good GM has on a team.
6. Coaching.
7. O and Dlines.
8. RBs.
9. Do you need any more?

Windows/curtains

kskboys · Thursday at 6:37 PM

Havic said:
I think Barkley / Henry alone would have gave the team 1-2 more wins, even with all the injuries

So, a worse draft choice and still no playoffs? Good plan.

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Thursday at 6:38 PM

No, you need signings not without the s singular.

zrinkill · Thursday at 7:11 PM

DuncanIso said:
overtheCap

it doesn’t end well.

AGAIN ...... thats what I have been hearing is gonna happen to the eagles for 10 years now.

Maybe ........ just maybe ........ they know what they are doing and the Jones family does not.

Ranching · Thursday at 7:15 PM

Gameover said:
The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?

Do you have your fishing license? These guys are taking your threads, hook, line and sinker! Lol!

Gameover · Thursday at 8:57 PM