No top 5 pick for us

[Jake0]

I am perfectly happy with ray rice. DMac is definitely looking like a pipe dream now though, there are much worse teams in the nfl than the browns, too many weapons at the skill positions.

 

[Kangaroo]

Pretty good breakdown, but I don't think he would fall past the Falcons AND the Raiders. Maybe one or the other, but not both.

The Rams may not have Jackson he is a FA and he has not proven he is anything more than JJ at this point

 

[iceberg]

The McFadden love is something else. Great player and I'd love to have him, but I'm surely not banking on him.

careful - such realism can make you a hater. : )

 

[Nors]

The McFadden lovers might want to do a double take as we are not drafting top 5. Browns are a decent team with some firepower on offense....

 

[nathanlt]

Hey, Cleveland's season is not over. They may still lose the rest of their games from here on out. However, it would take a key injury or two the way they're playing.

I don't know how all those other teams are going to pass on McFadden, but Dallas is somehow going to ignore the strength of the Julius/Barber combo. If McFadden is great enough for Dallas to upgrade a great running back combo, then he's great enough for these other teams to do it, too.

But Dallas still could have the overall #1 pick, it's not certain that they won't.... yet!

 

[irvin88]

The McFadden lovers might want to do a double take as we are not drafting top 5. Browns are a decent team with some firepower on offense....

Rice is fine with me after we let Julius walk.

 

[DasTex]

Well I didn't get to watch the game...just on gamecast, but looking at the numbers....the score doesn't add up. The Ravens terrible offense was able to move the ball pretty well vs. them.

Their average at best. They'll still end up w/ around 5-6 wins in the end.

 

[dbair1967]

it sux...but honestly who cares

we're 4-0...I'd rather us win the super bowl and play the Browns in it, then win 10-11 games, get beat in the playoffs and the Browns finish 2-14

the draft pick is a nice bonus, but the ultimate goal is winning the championship...not getting a high draft pick

David

 

[dallasfan]

This doesn't mean we couldn't get McFadden.

Take a look at the "1st overall pick contenders:"

• Dolphins 0-4 Already have Ronnie Brown and will be looking for a QB, probably Brohm from Louisville.
• Chiefs 0-3 They have Larry Johnson and I doubt they would be looking for a top RB with their 1st pick
• Raiders 2-2 I could see them taking McFadden, but as of right now, they own the tie breaker over the Browns.
• Falcons 1-3 They could take McFadden but my bet would be that they would also be looking for a QB now that Vick is probably gone.
• Saints 0-3 Already have Bush. They still might draft a RB, but I doubt it would be their 1st pick with the way their D is playing.
• Rams 0-4 Already have Jackson

So even if the Browns don't get the top pick, we could still land McFadden around pick 7 or 8 so all hope is not lost.

With all that said, I am starting to like Rice more and more, but still if we have a chance at McFadden, I doubt Jerry lets him slide past us.

Miami worries me. A different coaching staff choose Brown, so I could see them drafting McFadden. But I doubt they take a QB, they took one in round 2, I think, and IMO, should draft who ever is the top rated LT, probably Sam Baker. Look at what Levi Brown did for Edgerrin James.

Oakland worries me a bit too, but I think they'll finish higher than Cleveland, and will target DeSean Jackson. They've been decent running the ball, but pretty bad passing, so it's a 50/50 thing imo.

Atlanta will take either Woodson or Brohm. Unless Leftwich plays lights out, which will keep them far enough away to pick McFadden, they'll need to draft a QB. So I actually hope they pick before Cleveland, unless the Browns can some how manage to tank and finish 2-14

A few teams to look out for are Tampa if Caddilac is seriously hurt and they struggle with out him, which I doubt they will. The Jets, Thomas Jones isn't the answer. The Giants if they lose tonight, although Kenny Phillips will be very tempting for them especially if Dedrick Ward/Brandon Jacobs have a strong 2nd half and Arizona, but I doubt they are that bad, their opening schedule was pretty tough.

 

[iceberg]

Miami worries me. A different coaching staff choose Brown, so I could see them drafting McFadden. But I doubt they take a QB, they took one in round 2, I think, and IMO, should draft who ever is the top rated LT, probably Sam Baker. Look at what Levi Brown did for Edgerrin James.

Oakland worries me a bit too, but I think they'll finish higher than Cleveland, and will target DeSean Jackson. They've been decent running the ball, but pretty bad passing, so it's a 50/50 thing imo.

Atlanta will take either Woodson or Brohm. Unless Leftwich plays lights out, which will keep them far enough away to pick McFadden, they'll need to draft a QB. So I actually hope they pick before Cleveland, unless the Browns can some how manage to tank and finish 2-14

A few teams to look out for are Tampa if Caddilac is seriously hurt and they struggle with out him, which I doubt they will. The Jets, Thomas Jones isn't the answer. The Giants if they lose tonight, although Kenny Phillips will be very tempting for them especially if Dedrick Ward/Brandon Jacobs have a strong 2nd half and Arizona, but I doubt they are that bad, their opening schedule was pretty tough.

miami after passing on quinn is just a mystery.

the funny part is so many in here tout BPA yet suddenly they develop needs for other teams who could be "in the way" of getting mcfadden and regardless of the BPA theory, they pass on him and go for need and he just slides to us, where ever we happen to be picking.

oakland - they're not going to rely on lamont jordon for very long. they could easily have russell and mcfadden as well and THEN look at the potential.

harrington isn't playing too badly in atlanta. norwood has been boring and dunn doesn't have much left in him - they could consider QB *or* RB and either be a valid pick.

 

[VA Cowboy]

That's okay.

Now we can set our sights on our next kick butt linebacker.

 

[iceberg]

That's okay.

Now we can set our sights on our next kick butt linebacker.

but they have to have DE experience. : )

 

[Nors]

Browns are going to win a bunch of games -

We are looking at a 10-15 pick - JMO

 

[AsthmaField]

Christ. Why this year of all years not to suck as usual? I always felt that McFadden to Dallas would require both our picks, so that possibility is still intact. Then again, a young WR and left tackle would be nice consolation prizes.

You know bb, I've heard quite a few people mention a LT with the Brown's pick next year, so I'm not talking directly to you... but I don't know why people are looking at tackle in round 1 for us.

We have McQuisten who, I really think is going to be a very good player. When he went in for Colombo today, I told my buddy not to worry about Leonard Little (which he was with Colombo out) because McQ could handle him just fine. Sure enough, he stuck right to Little and buried him in the turf. McQ is a good player truly.

Add to that the fact that Free looked like a real keeper in camp this year, plus, we have Martin in training (our 3rd and 4th rounders this year)... and I just can't imagine us using a first rounder on a T.

Not to mention, we can resign Flo if we really want to and allow us to not use a first round pick for a T. It just seems to me like if we let Flo walk and then draft his replacement... it is a net gain of zero.

If we sign Flo to a 1-2 year deal and then draft a young WR, CB, DL, etc.... now that seems like an improvement to the quality of the team.

I know a good young, blue chip LT would be a good thing in the long run... but it would be a net gain of zero for next season, if Flo leaves.

The one caveat for me is if there's a true difference maker sitting there at LT when the Brown's pick comes up... and he's head and shoulders above everyone else... then I say go ahead and take the (by far) best athlete.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Browns are going to win a bunch of games -

We are looking at a 10-15 pick - JMO

Unless they put in the truth...

Then its probably 15-20.

 

[dallasfan]

The Rams may not have Jackson he is a FA and he has not proven he is anything more than JJ at this point

really? When did JJ put up 2300+ yards in a season? If Jackson isn't resigned, I say screw McFadden, sign Jackson.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Considerign Barber has seemingly little problem running behind our line, I'm going to assume it's the latter

Neither Barber nor Jones did anything until the game was well in hand. It was actually like that last week.

So I think the running game struggles has to do with the line.

 

[dallasfan]

the funny part is so many in here tout BPA yet suddenly they develop needs for other teams who could be "in the way" of getting mcfadden and regardless of the BPA theory, they pass on him and go for need and he just slides to us, where ever we happen to be picking.

Yeah, I don't see why everyone touts BPA, look at the Lions. Yeah they look good now, but they'll finish 8-8 or so. And what if BPA is a QB, will we really draft a QB with Cleveland's pick? IMO it's better to just not reach. Don't take the #2 rated RB just cause McFadden is gone and don't take the #1 CB just cause that's the biggest need. This is where teams make mistakes.

 

[iceberg]

Yeah, I don't see why everyone touts BPA, look at the Lions. Yeah they look good now, but they'll finish 8-8 or so. And what if BPA is a QB, will we really draft a QB with Cleveland's pick? IMO it's better to just not reach. Don't take the #2 rated RB just cause McFadden is gone and don't take the #1 CB just cause that's the biggest need. This is where teams make mistakes.

well, i tend to combine the BPA theory with positions of need.

say LT, RB, WR, CB and NT are all "positions of need" come draft.

if brohm should fall to us, we trade again. if a top LB is there and we're just plum full of LB's, they take another one?

look at our needs and take the BPA based on our needs, not just on the board itself.

 

[dallasfan]

Not to mention, we can resign Flo if we really want to and allow us to not use a first round pick for a T. It just seems to me like if we let Flo walk and then draft his replacement... it is a net gain of zero.

IMO I say we let Flozzell and JJ walk so we can get the comp picks for them, the following season. Let Free and McQuistern battle at LT, then the loser can battle Marten at RT the following season. Then the loser of that battle can replace Kosier cause his contract will be up around that time.