No top 5 pick for us

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Neither Barber nor Jones did anything until the game was well in hand. It was actually like that last week.

So I think the running game struggles has to do with the line.

The line will struggle against fast linebackers all year long. The Rams Linebackers are smaller and can fly.

If our line cant get to the second level (linebackers) , there wont be much of a hole as the fast LB's will be filling gaps.

 

[dallasfan]

well, i tend to combine the BPA theory with positions of need.

say LT, RB, WR, CB and NT are all "positions of need" come draft.

if brohm should fall to us, we trade again. if a top LB is there and we're just plum full of LB's, they take another one?

look at our needs and take the BPA based on our needs, not just on the board itself.

I actually agree, unless you're talking about a special talent. NO and MIN didn't need RBs but probably made the best picks they could at their spot.

 

[JonJon]

geezus...talk about whatever it takes to "keep the dream alive" - if mcfadden is that "must have" then don't you think some other team could ALSO be consdiering a trade to get him where he belongs?

there's a lot of living to be done before that decision can be made but we'll make it every day several times between then and now.

which is why I made mention of Ray Rice, assuming he comes out. Then there is Slaton, or even Hart if we are going after a RB. BTW, I am not saying we have to get McFadden, I was just pointing out that we do not have to have the #1 overall pick to get him. As far as keeping the dream alive, I guarantee Jerry will be "keeping the dream alive" as long as McFadden is on the board, and if Jerry has a chance at McFadden I believe he will target him. But, like I said before, if he is gone, then I have no problem with Ray Rice or some other stud RB.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

IMO I say we let Flozzell and JJ walk so we can get the comp picks for them, the following season. Let Free and McQuistern battle at LT, then the loser can battle Marten at RT the following season. Then the loser of that battle can replace Kosier cause his contract will be up around that time.

No thanks and No Thanks.

You only let a player 'walk' if you think the person behind them is better or you think they will resign with your team for less.

You put too much hope on Free and Marten? I think McQuisten can play but why now? And whats wrong with Columbo at RT besides playing on half a shoe?

If the team is serious about a LT replacement for Flo, use one of those first round picks on this guy....

 

[iceberg]

No thanks and No Thanks.

You only let a player 'walk' if you think the person behind them is better or you think they will resign with your team for less.

You put too much hope on Free and Marten? I think McQuisten can play but why now? And whats wrong with Columbo at RT besides playing on half a shoe?

If the team is serious about a LT replacement for Flo, use one of those first round picks on this guy....

i could be very very happy with that pick. i think romo's agility is making the line look better but look at the running game. i think WG is onto something that maybe the line isn't doing well for that aspect of the game.

love romo and he's phenominal, but let's not put it all on him - let's continue to give him help, protection and weapons.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Me personally if there is a stud DT, that would be the way to go. We seem to be getting our OL fixed, now with Ferguson getting older and semingly more injury prone, it makes sense. Ratliff I like, but should be the backup. Tank Johnson, who knows right now how he will fit in. And yes we need to think about WR and CB. Glenn who knows too if he is ever gonna be the same when he comes back. Newman now has this foot problem, and we have no real depth behind the starters there.

So I say DT, WR, CB is more a bigger need than RB. Barber is fine in my eyes. I haven't seen too much of McFadden, but if he's there, take him if he's what you guys say he is.

 

[iceberg]

Me personally if there is a stud DT, that would be the way to go. We seem to be getting our OL fixed, now with Ferguson getting older and semingly more injury prone, it makes sense. Ratliff I like, but should be the backup. Tank Johnson, who knows right now how he will fit in. And yes we need to think about WR and CB. Glenn who knows too if he is ever gonna be the same when he comes back. Newman now has this foot problem, and we have no real depth behind the starters there.

So I say DT, WR, CB is more a bigger need than RB. Barber is fine in my eyes. I haven't seen too much of McFadden, but if he's there, take him if he's what you guys say he is.

not sure WR is a big "need" - crayton is doing fine in place of glenn and TO isn't slowing down much and austin / hurd are damn good depth.

let's say for some reason we draft sweed in round 1 (just a name/wr, let's not go crazy on it) - austin gone? hurd? stanback? or wow - glenn?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Sure Hurd/Austin are good depth. But if a great #1 reciever is there, and you have both Owens & Glenn at 34 next year, common sense says you go for that wr. I like Crayton, but who knows how he'd do if he was facing double coverage that starting wr's do like Owens. Well if Hurd continues to develop and maybe Stanback shows something this year along with Austin, then you're right wr isn't as big a need. Anyways I still think DT is the biggest right now.

not sure WR is a big "need" - crayton is doing fine in place of glenn and TO isn't slowing down much and austin / hurd are damn good depth.

let's say for some reason we draft sweed in round 1 (just a name/wr, let's not go crazy on it) - austin gone? hurd? stanback? or wow - glenn?

 

[Kangaroo]

which is why I made mention of Ray Rice, assuming he comes out. Then there is Slaton, or even Hart if we are going after a RB. BTW, I am not saying we have to get McFadden, I was just pointing out that we do not have to have the #1 overall pick to get him. As far as keeping the dream alive, I guarantee Jerry will be "keeping the dream alive" as long as McFadden is on the board, and if Jerry has a chance at McFadden I believe he will target him. But, like I said before, if he is gone, then I have no problem with Ray Rice or some other stud RB.

After McFadden I like Davis from Clemson who will becoming out with having 3 years of good running while splitting carries.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I've been telling people for months that the Browns are a pretty good football team whose only problem was inconsistent QB play. No one wanted to believe me when I said that teams in their division all have problems and could struggle.

They're going to win a lot of games this year if Anderson can play at the level he is now.

They're going to win 7-9 games and Dallas will have a pick in the 12-18 range. But I've also said that I prefer a pick in that range because it's not the cap hit as a top 5 pick. Looking at Baker, King, or Cason with Cleveland's pick then someone like Hardy or Doucet with Dallas' pick.

 

[Clove]

if we can move Henry to FS.

I would love to use our 2 1sts to anchor our D. I'm still not sold on it. It can be better.

For those who are missing games, Hamlin is tearing it up at FS. No need to move Henry anywhere, as he is tearing it up at CB.

 

[peplaw06]

Check out some of these teams and their records...

Chicago.....1-3
SD ...........1-3 (about to be)
NO............0-3
Rams.........0-4
Bengals likely 1-3 after tomorrow.

It's way to early to give up on a high pick from the CLE pick. These teams won't be this bad forever. All of these teams were thought to be playoff contenders before the season.

What really makes my head hurt is that SF is 2-2, and NE gets their 1st rounder.

 

[FCBarca]

It's a long season folks, it's still too early to start the mock drafts...Cleveland can still shoot up that draft board before it's all said and done...Losing today would've been nice but there's plenty of time for that still

 

[SMCowboy]

Cleveland is much better on offense than we expected them to be. But, the Anderson is still VERY VERY mistake prone. And their D has gone from decent to beyond horrendous.

Lets not get to caught up on the Browns record. The Ravens beat themselves against the Browns. They moved into the Browns redzone 4 or 5 times and came away with ONE TD at the end of the game. And missed two FG's.

The Ravens have turned out to be a pretty weak team this year. Their O is horrendous, and the only part of their D that is strong is their run D, and even that is not at the level it was in previous years.

The Browns opening schedule was supposed to be the killer part of their schedule, but it is the back end of their schedule that is looking much tougher than their first 8 weeks of their schedule. They play all of their divisional rivals on the road. And the only home games are against Seattle, Houston, Buffalo, and San Francisco. And both Buffalo and San Francisco will probally be played with Brady Quinn at QB, which definately helps us.

 

[Kangaroo]

Cleveland is much better on offense than we expected them to be. But, the Anderson is still VERY VERY mistake prone. And their D has gone from decent to beyond horrendous.

Lets not get to caught up on the Browns record. The Ravens beat themselves against the Browns. They moved into the Browns redzone 4 or 5 times and came away with ONE TD at the end of the game. And missed two FG's.

The Ravens have turned out to be a pretty weak team this year. Their O is horrendous, and the only part of their D that is strong is their run D, and even that is not at the level it was in previous years.

The Browns opening schedule was supposed to be the killer part of their schedule, but it is the back end of their schedule that is looking much tougher than their first 8 weeks of their schedule. They play all of their divisional rivals on the road. And the only home games are against Seattle, Houston, Buffalo, and San Francisco. And both Buffalo and San Francisco will probally be played with Brady Quinn at QB, which definately helps us.

Which is what they done since last year so your point

 

[cowboyjack]

There are a lot of bad teams winning today. Still a lot of football to be played. Buffalo's winning, Atlanta's winning. Too early to make any definite statements re: where CLE will end up.

Exactamoondoo!!! It'w way too early to try to figure out where the Cleveland pick will end up. Right now San Diego has a better pick than Cleveland..... I seriously doubt it will end up that way.

 

[DallasEast]

Each year, the draft is a crapshoot. Knowing full well what McFadden can do on the football field, I would be beside myself if we could land him, but there aren't any guarantees of that ever happening. Let's take care of business in '07. '08 will take care of itself.

 

[alancdc]

They are 2-2 and played their LAST home division game already. I think it will still be top 7.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I have to give them credit.....playing much better football then I thought was possible out of them.

 

[Daudr]

Browns appear to be better than we thought.

If only they had put in Quinn instead of Derek Anderson. :bang2: