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The giants couldn't get to him much. Don't think Dallas will be able to either. Their pass rush is better than ours. Going to be a tough game. Rodgers has both legs this time. But we have dak and zeke this time.
 

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Sacks aren't misleading they result in a loss and with Rodgers you have to get him on the ground. He can avoid pressure we saw that on Sunday, there's no QB in the league better at extending plays and finding receivers than Rodgers. He had all 15 seconds against the Giants on one play, biding time avoiding pressure to throw a TD. The way Rodgers is playing right now there's no QB in the league harder to defend than him. It takes pressure from all angles to try and corral him. You have to do what Denver did in the SB against Cam last season to try and defend Rodgers.

You have to have pressure coming from different angles and get him on the ground. Pressure can lead to bad throws/INT's but with Rodgers you have to sack him or he'll stay alive and shred you. You can't bank that he's going to be off like he was against us earlier in the season. We only sacked him once in week 6 but he was missing throws. Even though he was off he still completed 74% of his passes for 294 yards but he only had one TD.
The Giants had 5 sacks against Green Bay. They lost by 25 points. In the second half Rodgers had all day to throw.
 

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The Giants had 5 sacks against Green Bay. They lost by 25 points. In the second half Rodgers had all day to throw.

I pointed out the 5 sacks the Giants had but 4 of those sacks came in the first half. Once Rodgers got hot in the second half the Giants defense put him on the turf only once. He completely shredded them in the second half.
 

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In this case the sacks - as a stat - were misleading. They didn't get enough pressure on him in the second half and got shredded.
 

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In this case the sacks - as a stat - were misleading. They didn't get enough pressure on him in the second half and got shredded.

When they were sacking Rodgers 4 times the Giants had a 6-0 lead for most of the second quarter. It was a 7-6 Packers lead at halftime but Rodgers started to heat up in the second half and the Giants could't get him on the ground. They got pressure but he was able to side step and dance around it, keeping himself alive. As long as Rodgers is alive on his feet he's in a position to throw a TD. He doesn't have to turn his shoulders to make a throw, he has a lighting quick flick of the wrist and his passes are like darts. He made some throws on Sunday that are impossible to defend. You have to get him on the ground!
 

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Rodgers sucked the life right out of the Giants defense, they literally gave up. That defense came to play and got knocked out cold! I'm sorry but NO WAY do we have an answer for that Aaron Rodgers. Got to hope he's off at least a tick on Sunday and the loss of Nelson has an impact or we're going to have a tough time staying within two scores of them unless we can put 30 on them again and it may take more than that. The Giants had an ALL Pro in their secondary and Rodgers just took that defense apart in the second half.
 

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If Dak has ice in his veins and the defense doesn't embarrass itself, I don't see how Green Bay beats us. None of the remaining teams in the NFC are well balanced. The AFC teams scare me more.

That's a good point. I think the BEST, most balanced and veteran led teams right now are:

Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, Cowboys, Packers, Chiefs and Falcons. Man.....that's a loaded slate of quality teams. I think the real games begin this weekend and there won't be too many blowouts this week...unlike last week.
 

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When they were sacking Rodgers 4 times the Giants had a 6-0 lead for most of the second quarter. It was a 7-6 Packers lead at halftime but Rodgers started to heat up in the second half and the Giants could't get him on the ground. They got pressure but he was able to side step and dance around it, keeping himself alive. As long as Rodgers is alive on his feet he's in a position to throw a TD. He doesn't have to turn his shoulders to make a throw, he has a lighting quick flick of the wrist and his passes are like darts. He made some throws on Sunday that are impossible to defend. You have to get him on the ground!

Yes sir. I have NO doubt in the world that Rod has told them to go low too. It's not cheap in any way, shape or form. Fact is, the NFL doesn't want it's skill players getting hit up high around the head. AR gets real nervous when guys shoot low on him. He's had calf issues and I would lay lumber low on him. He'll get skittish believe me. BTW....it was 14-6 at the half due to the Hail Mary that totally changed momentum.
 
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Rodgers sucked the life right out of the Giants defense, they literally gave up. That defense came to play and got knocked out cold! I'm sorry but NO WAY do we have an answer for that Aaron Rodgers. Got to hope he's off at least a tick on Sunday and the loss of Nelson has an impact or we're going to have a tough time staying within two scores of them unless we can put 30 on them again and it may take more than that. The Giants had an ALL Pro in their secondary and Rodgers just took that defense apart in the second half.

Relax. Biggest thing people are overlooking is how much time he had. So they start to talk about how great his Oline is. It's a very good pass blocking Oline, but not so much on the run. So why couldn't NY get good pressure on him? The usual reasons most teams in January can't...that friggin' field. It was a skating rink and they couldn't get any traction whatsoever. Huge advantage to GBay and I've noticed over the years it's why the throw so well at home in January. Favre was the same way...good feet, move up and laterally in the pocket and buy time to hit your targets. That won't happen on Sunday because our turf is fast and our D' is faster and more athletic than NY's...especially sideline to sideline.
 

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The giants couldn't get to him much. Don't think Dallas will be able to either. Their pass rush is better than ours. Going to be a tough game. Rodgers has both legs this time. But we have dak and zeke this time.

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Adjusted sack rate is a horrible attempt at trying to better quantify OL quality because it tries to put a tangible value to intangible things (i.e. teams rush the passer harder when they're leading).

Say what? It's a statistic that adjusts sack rate based on opponents. It's a better stat than raw sack quantity (doesn't take attempts into account) and a better stat than sack percentage (doesn't take opponents into account).

It's a particularly pointless stat here, because the OP is talking about nothing but sack volume.

The OP has nothing to do with the part of your post to which I was responding. You said the last six games we played were against "a bunch of terrible offenses." In reality, they were all at least average at protecting the passer.
 

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The Packers may have the best pass blocking OL in the league-- maybe even better than ours.

I don't think our pass rush is going to be a factor, tbh.

Hopefully we can just keep him contained in the pocket and Sean Lee can match wits.

That said, who cares, we're putting up 45+
Just need David Irving to show up like he did in the first meeting...where he had a sack and 3 forced fumbles...
 

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Offensive DVOA Rank

Washington - 5th
Minnesota - 26th
New York - 22nd
Tampa Bay - 18th
Detroit - 15th
Philly - 20th
What is "DVOA"? All of those teams except Philly were in the playoff hunt. If you take away our win towards those teams they probably actually make the playoffs.
 

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I'm sure the Packers are aware...

We also played a bunch of terrible offenses over the last 6 games.
Like they have not played some terrible teams over their last seven!!!
 

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Team - Sacks Allowed - Sacks

Commanders - 4th - 0
Vikings- 23rd - 3
Giants - 3rd - 2
Bucs - 16th - 4
Lions - 21st - 4
Eagles - 14th - 2

So we racked up 11 of our 15 sacks in the last 6 games against teams in the bottom half of the league in taking sacks. In two games against top 10 teams we had two total.

This doesn't even take into account that 5 of these 6 teams are ranked in the bottom half of scoring in the league. The only team in the top half, we didn't touch.

But, since GB is an average offense and surrenders a lot of sacks - 22nd in sacks allowed - yes, GB is going to be aware of our pass rush.

Uh - ok. What does that have to do with Dallas rushing the quarterback?

Another way to look at it: we had 10 sacks in 3 games vs teams playing for their playoff lives, 2 of which actually WERE playoff teams.
 

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Not getting to Rogers in 2014 was suppose to change all this when he was on 1 leg. Sunday he will have two good legs. My bet is nothing has changed much.
 

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Relax. Biggest thing people are overlooking is how much time he had. So they start to talk about how great his Oline is. It's a very good pass blocking Oline, but not so much on the run. So why couldn't NY get good pressure on him? The usual reasons most teams in January can't...that friggin' field. It was a skating rink and they couldn't get any traction whatsoever. Huge advantage to GBay and I've noticed over the years it's why the throw so well at home in January. Favre was the same way...good feet, move up and laterally in the pocket and buy time to hit your targets. That won't happen on Sunday because our turf is fast and our D' is faster and more athletic than NY's...especially sideline to sideline.

He gave himself time by moving around avoiding the rush, a lot of those plays had nothing to do with his OL. He got sacked 5 times and 4 of those sacks came in the first half. He's able to elude pressure and extend plays with his mobility and pocket awareness. Rodgers won his only championship on our turf against the Steelers defense. The turf isn't going to have any impact on Sunday.
 

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Yes sir. I have NO doubt in the world that Rod has told them to go low too. It's not cheap in any way, shape or form. Fact is, the NFL doesn't want it's skill players getting hit up high around the head. AR gets real nervous when guys shoot low on him. He's had calf issues and I would lay lumber low on him. He'll get skittish believe me. BTW....it was 14-6 at the half due to the Hail Mary that totally changed momentum.

You can't go low on a QB and I can assure you our D isn't being told to do that. The last thing we need is to come up with a sack and be flagged 15 for a personal foul on the QB. You can't go high or low on a QB. The QB is treated differently than other players.
 
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