Normally failure creates change

[IceStar-D7]

I'm turning 33 next year. I haven't missed a game since I was 8 - it's been 25 years for me watching every single game since 2001.

I don't think this team will ever reach it's potential. I've soured throughout the years more and more - but these last 5 years were the worst.

Coming off 10 years straight of Jason Garrett I did have some hope we were hiring someone established in MM - although watching football for a long-time you could see why his tenure wrapped up in GB the way it did - lack of running the football and stale offense. Same thing happened here 3 years in, year 1 disaster - then (3) 12 win seasons but as we won 36 games, just like you can see this team cannot compete in the playoffs it was the same mirage with the 12 wins.

Everyone knew deep down inside we had 12 wins but we're not built physically enough to go on the road or win 3 games at home. So that whole tenure of MM was a facade. Worst defense in the NFL history during one of the years. Playoff embarrassments, the list goes on and on. Note that they have been the most undisciplined team in the NFL with penalties as well.

I did also buy into schotty and still do with his x-factor as his time in the game, connection with the youth and also his legendary father. He is an XO guy and is good at it - now you go and see how the FO pushed Flus on him - and you can see why this will never change. How they cannot tell that hiring your own coaches how Schotty did OC and OL coach is extremely beneficial for the staff. He had to baby-sit Flus for weeks - for no change in results. Unless this team fires the DC and gives this 1 HC the automony to do what he needs to do to win on both sides of the ball - I will turn 50 and likely see 5 more playoff wins amount for nothing in the next 17 years the way OP posted his stats.

I'm depressed.

Wow...33 The good ole days. You might still live long enough to see a Dallas Cowboy Super Bowl appearance.

 

[Chasing6]

Jerry may have been was right that anyone could have Coached our 90's SB teams to a SB victory.

However, he has been horrendously wrong thinking he could assemble another SB winning team.

 

[Bobhaze]

Evidently, it takes 30+ years to create change.

Maybe more.

 

[ArtClink]

It's not just roster building. Until the Joneses stop acting like quasi-head coaches with the final say on gameplan & who plays, it's not going to work. 30 years proves it in spades. They could build the NFL's best roster, and the 2 of them would still undermine whoever the coach was. More than likely, even an elite roster, something we haven't had since the mid 90s, won't overcome them.

This!!!

 

[leeblair]

For the 15th time in the last 26 seasons, our Dallas Cowboys will not be participants in the NFL playoffs. That means since 2000, we have made the playoffs 42% of the time. When we’ve made the playoffs, we’ve won a single wild card game 40% of the time. We can’t get better without first admitting we are not a very good football team. And it was obvious all year.

We are just a few weeks from the start of a very important off-season. An off-season where if this front office does not change its ways in acquiring more quality NFL talent, only a miracle from Lady Luck will prevent us from missing the playoffs again.

In short, if JJ and his sidekick son don’t change their ways, expect the same kind of season next year..

Before the off-season starts, we will be saturated with the usual sales job from our owner/GM, gaslighting us with the ridiculous statement that he is “surprised” we didn’t make the playoffs. Most Cowboys fans are not surprised.

And he will be thrilled when too many Cowboys fans will blame the HC, DC, the QB and whoever else can be thrown under the party bus.

My 9 year old granddaughter apparently has a better understanding of what this team is when she sweetly and accurately said to me while watching a recent game with me, “Papa the Cowboys just aren’t very good are they?” Out of the mouth of a 9 year old comes more truth than we will ever get from our 83 year old GM.

So unless Jerry and Giggles admit that their cheap ways of roster building without serious participation in FA doesn’t work, we will be here again next year. Or realizing that hiring coaches because they’re friends and they make you feel comfortable is not the way to win.

In normal organizations, failure creates change. Because without major changes in how this team is run, we should not expect changes in results.

The bottom hasn't fallen out yet.
But it's coming.

 

[Ranching]

Agreed.

And it’s worked out so well for the team’s success hasn’t it?


Insanity indeed Mary. And we will soon be hearing an excuse-fest from Jerry with scenarios of “if this had happened earlier”, “if, if, if”.

As you said…If we keep doing what we’ve been doing why would any sane person expect different outcomes?

The insanity comes from fans that keep complaining and never showing their team any love, or keep derailing every positive thread into a hate Dak or Jerry thread, but keep coming back for more of the same, year after year. That's worse than Jerry....he owns the teams, we don't have to be here......I don't get it. If it's so bad, and makes you so upset, why pit up with it?

 

[Wildcat711]

The insanity comes from fans that keep complaining and never showing their team any love, or keep derailing every positive thread into a hate Dak or Jerry thread, but keep coming back for more of the same, year after year. That's worse than Jerry....he owns the teams, we don't have to be here......I don't get it. If it's so bad, and makes you so upset, why pit up with it?

Could ask the same of you.....

Why piss and moan about every thread Coog makes?

None of us are perfect

 

[IceStar-D7]

Schotty was under the system that caused the failure. That's why Dallas needs to go outside ot the org to make a coaching hire. Ebersuck was another former house member. As was Garret-Nolan-Zimmer. The Ghoul wanted his comfort is killing us. New idea's vs what we know.

 

[Diehardblues]

The insanity comes from fans that keep complaining and never showing their team any love, or keep derailing every positive thread into a hate Dak or Jerry thread, but keep coming back for more of the same, year after year. That's worse than Jerry....he owns the teams, we don't have to be here......I don't get it. If it's so bad, and makes you so upset, why pit up with it?

Cause they are my local team. This is what Diehards do. They are loyal to the brand regardless. And we get on the roof top and holler until the cows come home .

It’s the same thing at Colleges and HS levels. If it’s your Alma mater or local school you don’t abort your school or move. You dig in, complain and lobby for change.

We don’t move to another state or country when we don’t like our leaders , policies or direction. We organize , speak out and make our concerns vocal to influence or bring about change.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

might as well put you on out to pastor because you're never seeing a super bowl here. A wild card win is the best you're going to get.

Possibly, but still, I like the stars I've got out of it lol

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry may have been was right that anyone could have Coached our 90's SB teams to a SB victory.

However, he has been horrendously wrong thinking he could assemble another SB winning team.

Unfortunately building a SB team isn’t even a priority anymore. Just staying relative or hanging around the rim is all Jethro needs to hype his hope and promote his brand .

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The insanity comes from fans that keep complaining and never showing their team any love, or keep derailing every positive thread into a hate Dak or Jerry thread, but keep coming back for more of the same, year after year. That's worse than Jerry....he owns the teams, we don't have to be here......I don't get it. If it's so bad, and makes you so upset, why pit up with it?

The reason we are all here complaining is because we care (not counting the trolls that just want to get reactions out of people).

I read both the positive and the negative threads because, quite simply, that is the best way to find out if fans feel the same way I do. No, I do not always agree. Yes, I have been accused of being many things; from a "Dak over Dallas" fan (which is odd because the only reason I like Dak is because he's a Cowboy) or a "Jerry Homer" (which is about as far from the truth as it gets).

Do you think Browns fans are totally happy with the ineptitude that franchise has shown for almost 40 years? Are Lions and Cardinals fans happy they are the oldest active franchises in the NFL that have never won a Super Bowl?

Why do those teams have fans? Why do they complain? Because they CARE. Like we do.

 

[Bobhaze]

The reason we are all here complaining is because we care (not counting the trolls that just want to get reactions out of people).

I read both the positive and the negative threads because, quite simply, that is the best way to find out if fans feel the same way I do. No, I do not always agree. Yes, I have been accused of being many things; from a "Dak over Dallas" fan (which is odd because the only reason I like Dak is because he's a Cowboy) or a "Jerry Homer" (which is about as far from the truth as it gets).

Do you think Browns fans are totally happy with the ineptitude that franchise has shown for almost 40 years? Are Lions and Cardinals fans happy they are the oldest active franchises in the NFL that have never seen a Super Bowl?

Why do those teams have fans? Why do they complain? Because they CARE. Like we do.

Well said CT.

 

[Diehardblues]

The reason we are all here complaining is because we care (not counting the trolls that just want to get reactions out of people).

I read both the positive and the negative threads because, quite simply, that is the best way to find out if fans feel the same way I do. No, I do not always agree. Yes, I have been accused of being many things; from a "Dak over Dallas" fan (which is odd because the only reason I like Dak is because he's a Cowboy) or a "Jerry Homer" (which is about as far from the truth as it gets).

Do you think Browns fans are totally happy with the ineptitude that franchise has shown for almost 40 years? Are Lions and Cardinals fans happy they are the oldest active franchises in the NFL that have never won a Super Bowl?

Why do those teams have fans? Why do they complain? Because they CARE. Like we do.

Yea, it’s a pretty simple concept.

I suppose some fans just accept everything crammed down their throats just happy to be along.

I’d argue they are the bigger problem providing our leadership less accountability without more success.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Yea, it’s a pretty simple concept.

I suppose some fans just accept everything crammed down their throats just happy to be along.

I’d argue they are the bigger problem providing our leadership less accountability without more success.

Agreed. I am not happy with the direction of this team but at the same time, I have conditioned myself to no longer get too upset about it.

This forum is a great place to voice our opinions even if we know it will not lead to a change. The general manager is not firing himself for 30 years of failure so we just have to hope we get lucky one of these years.

 

[Kwyn]

There’s only one change this organization needs.

 

[xwalker]

For the 15th time in the last 26 seasons, our Dallas Cowboys will not be participants in the NFL playoffs. That means since 2000, we have made the playoffs 42% of the time. When we’ve made the playoffs, we’ve won a single wild card game 40% of the time. We can’t get better without first admitting we are not a very good football team. And it was obvious all year.

We are just a few weeks from the start of a very important off-season. An off-season where if this front office does not change its ways in acquiring more quality NFL talent, only a miracle from Lady Luck will prevent us from missing the playoffs again.

In short, if JJ and his sidekick son don’t change their ways, expect the same kind of season next year..

Before the off-season starts, we will be saturated with the usual sales job from our owner/GM, gaslighting us with the ridiculous statement that he is “surprised” we didn’t make the playoffs. Most Cowboys fans are not surprised.

And he will be thrilled when too many Cowboys fans will blame the HC, DC, the QB and whoever else can be thrown under the party bus.

My 9 year old granddaughter apparently has a better understanding of what this team is when she sweetly and accurately said to me while watching a recent game with me, “Papa the Cowboys just aren’t very good are they?” Out of the mouth of a 9 year old comes more truth than we will ever get from our 83 year old GM.

So unless Jerry and Giggles admit that their cheap ways of roster building without serious participation in FA doesn’t work, we will be here again next year. Or realizing that hiring coaches because they’re friends and they make you feel comfortable is not the way to win.

In normal organizations, failure creates change. Because without major changes in how this team is run, we should not expect changes in results.

Bob, you keep making threads that are the same but disguised to appear different.

Isn't that what Jerry does every year...

 

[IceStar-D7]

Until Jerry disappears, we are screwed. He's to old too change and worse Stephen has learned from the old man and will never change either. I have always said that maybe Charlotte will pull us out of this funk. But you are talking another 20 years or more

 

[Ranching]

Could ask the same of you.....

Why piss and moan about every thread Coog makes?

None of us are perfect

You know that's a joke, but this constant trashing of the team that we are all fans of????? I used beat on people that made fun of my team in my young and stupid days, now fans fight if you say something good about them.

 

[Ranching]

Cause they are my local team. This is what Diehards do. They are loyal to the brand regardless. And we get on the roof top and holler until the cows come home .

It’s the same thing at Colleges and HS levels. If it’s your Alma mater or local school you don’t abort your school or move. You dig in, complain and lobby for change.

We don’t move to another state or country when we don’t like our leaders , policies or direction. We organize , speak out and make our concerns vocal to influence or bring about change.

Lobby for change???? That's a crock....what change can you make here? Spoiled fans....that's all it is. Grown men having temper tantrums....