Not Knocking Wade, But Why Did He Accept The Penalty On 4th Down?...

[casmith07]

I liked it better. We could've gotten a pick, or a longer punt, if we made a bigger stop on 3rd and 24. 4th and 2 around midfield and Reid might go for it, because that's what Andy Reid does.

 

[JBond]

I thought that was a great call. Absolutely right in my mind. Romo would've burnt at least another 6 secs trying to spike it, maybe more.

What good would a timeout mean to us with only 12 -14 secs left.

Not only was it a good decision but it was made quickly and that's a good thing.

That's why I am not a coach.

My thought was, it would open up the entire field instead of forcing throws outside.

 

[Derinyar]

I did not like the challenge for that very reason, you need indisputable evidence to overturn the field ruling and given the few camera shots we saw there was no evidence he was over the line. He very well could of been over that LOS, we just never saw the evidence. When Wade challenged it I was hoping he or his staff saw something we did not.

Andy Reid got burned twice trying to challenge ball spots. Camera angles and the superimposed LOS and first down markers are tricky and makes the odds of overturning the ruling on the field very difficult since the officials can't make judgements on perceptions due to bad angles.

The good news is we won and I am happy so I don't really even care to be honest and since I am not a Wade basher I won't think much more about it either. This is just an interesting topic.

The problem with Reid's challenges is that they were almost totally emotional challenges. I could have sworn hearing several times in the past that if your challenging less then about half a yard you shouldn't really expect any movement. The one on top of the logo was really just a last attempt to not have the game be over, in my opinion.

 

[ZeroClub]

I've brought up to believe that you get the ball when you can. Field position is nice, but rarely do you give up the ball for field position.

Reid's field goal at the end of the game was a bigger error, though.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Field position is crucial, particularly in an ugly game like last night's. I think he made a good decision by trusting his defense there. I watch a lot of football, and I was not one bit surprised by this decision. It's interesting that so many people are questioning it.

The challenge was also legit. I'm not even sure that the ref is allowed to see NBC's "unofficial" red line during the reply. Without the benefit of that red line, it's clear that the play could've been overturned.

 

[rexrobinson]

The problem with Reid's challenges is that they were almost totally emotional challenges. I could have sworn hearing several times in the past that if your challenging less then about half a yard you shouldn't really expect any movement. The one on top of the logo was really just a last attempt to not have the game be over, in my opinion.

I totally agree and emotion should not have any place in a challenge. Its football though and we would not watch it if there were no emotions.

Man this defense really showed some guts, grit and backbone on that play.

 

[joseephuss]

I thought it was a good decision by Wade. It put the Eagles offense in a bad position by backing them up into a 3rd and long. It was worth it even though Philly ended up exactly where they were after the previous play. They didn't show a replay, but I thought that the ball was caught on a short hop. It didn't matter too much because the Eagles were forced to punt, but yards are yards.

 

[rexrobinson]

I've brought up to believe that you get the ball when you can. Field position is nice, but rarely do you give up the ball for field position.

Reid's field goal at the end of the game was a bigger error, though.

Yep, the kicker bailed him out by nailing it. If he had missed that, the smoke from burning Reid effigies would choking the city of Philadelphia today.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Yep, the kicker bailed him out by nailing it. If he had missed that, the smoke from burning Reid effigies would choking the city of Philadelphia today.

I don't see how him nailing it bailed him out at all. He still needed a TD but gave the ball back to the Cowboys with no timeouts and consequently never saw the ball again.

The only call in that situation with no timeouts is to go for it ... period.

 

[eightysiX]

I don't see how him nailing it bailed him out at all. He still gave the ball back to the Cowboys with no timeouts and consequently never saw the ball again.

The only call in that situation with no timeouts is to go for it ... period.

agreed. Especially with our RB's no matter how they play the game there 10x better at closing.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't see how him nailing it bailed him out at all. He still gave the ball back to the Cowboys with no timeouts and consequently never saw the ball again.

The only call in that situation with no timeouts is to go for it ... period.

I agree. I was laughing my butt off when the eagles kicked it because I knew they would never see the ball again. They had a 4th and 11 at our 34 yard line with no time outs I was shocked they did not go for it or attempt an onside kick after the FG

 

[rexrobinson]

I don't see how him nailing it bailed him out at all. He still gave the ball back to the Cowboys with no timeouts and consequently never saw the ball again.

The only call in that situation with no timeouts is to go for it ... period.

I agree, I think it was an very stupid move and it would of made more sense to go for it since they needed a TD to tie but since they got points on the board hardly anyone is questioning it. Now if he had missed it...knowing Philly, it would of been a riot.

 

[Screw The Hall]

agreed. Especially with our RB's no matter how they play the game there 10x better at closing.

Say we have to punt it at the two minute warning. He still has to drive the length of the field and get six against a defense that had dominated his offense all day with no timeouts.

That's expecting way too many things to go right for you. The chances were a lot better that one play goes his way for the first down.

 

[rexrobinson]

I agree. I was laughing my butt off when the eagles kicked it because I knew they would never see the ball again. They had a 4th and 11 at our 34 yard line with no time outs I was shocked they did not go for it or attempt an onside kick after the FG

I was surprised they did not onside kick. That is the only way kicking that FG at that time made any sense thus why I think the fact he nailed it bailed him out for that momment at least.

 

[Doomsday101]

I was surprised they did not onside kick. That is the only way kicking that FG at that time made any sense thus why I think the fact he nailed it bailed him out for that momment at least.

Even at that the onside kick is very low percentage, the odds of converting a 4th and 11 is much higher than getting the onside kick. I think had Dallas been in that situation and Phillips kicked it they would be all over him today. I will say I think Andy Reid is a fine coach I was just surprised that he did not go for it given the fact they had no way of stopping the clock outside of the 2 min warning and would still need a TD because another FG would not have done them any good

 

[TNCowboy]

I would've gone for it, but I can understand kicking the FG.

Dallas has dreadful 2 minute defense. They had 2 chances to get the ball back, but Barber and the OL showed up at just the right time.

 

[LeonDixson]

I agree. I was laughing my butt off when the eagles kicked it because I knew they would never see the ball again. They had a 4th and 11 at our 34 yard line with no time outs I was shocked they did not go for it or attempt an onside kick after the FG

I honestly thought they were going run a fake field goal there. That might have actually been a better option for them.

Andy had to be thinking that his defense would stop us and get the ball back quickly, allowing Philthy to score on a bomb to Jackson.

 

[Doomsday101]

I honestly thought they were going run a fake field goal there. That might have actually been a better option for them.

Andy had to be thinking that his defense would stop us and get the ball back quickly, allowing Philthy to score on a bomb to Jackson.

Evidently so but Philly defense was on the field quite a bit in the 4th and looked gassed by the time we started that drive with 4 min.

 

[dfense]

...I still haven't figured that one out.

It was 4th and 2 after the 3rd down play, it was in Philly territory and it was in the first half. So Philly wasn't going for it on 4th down.

I understand field position and all of that but you just don't give a team another play on 3rd down, especially with the officials being quick with the flag. I was scared to death we were going to get a ticky tack 5 yard holding call and give them an automatic first down.

I think Wade got away with one there.

field position. It made it 3rd and 23 as I recall.

 

[DallasInDC]

I was a little surprised he called a time out instead of letting Romo down it. As you say there were a couple of "what the heck is going on moments".

I actually thought that was a smart call. It allowed them to take three shots at the endzone and gave them time to talk about the next three plays.