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Jackson can cover kickoffs and punts, block on kickoffs and punts, etc.

Elliott and Morris protect Romo. Don't need a third guy. Who was the third guy last year?

Jackson is an emergency RB that plays lots of special teams.


Well, I did not know Jackson played all those ST's spots, it's the first I heard of it. also, is he on 1st team ST's now, are played on 2nd team?
McFadden still brings a lot to the team. I need to see it from Jackson. If I see it, then I will admit he deserves that spot.

If he beats out McFadden, then it is because he is one of the top 53. Even though a numbers game is involved there too. as too who provides more team value, a RB or a DB or extra DL.
 

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I agree but they're moving forward with the charges which we know a guilty verdict is not necessary for suspension .
But there's got to be something to the charges. Word is, he never touched the girl. Very different with Hardy, which had multiple other facets to that scenario, not to mention a sordid past.

They're not moving forward with the charges. They're just investigating them as they're obligated to do.

If they find something different, then there's been a whole lot of lying going on.

Nobody seems worried about it in the least.
 

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Well, I did not know Jackson played all those ST's spots, it's the first I heard of it. also, is he on 1st team ST's now, are played on 2nd team?
McFadden still brings a lot to the team. I need to see it from Jackson. If I see it, then I will admit he deserves that spot.

If he beats out McFadden, then it is because he is one of the top 53. Even though a numbers game is involved there too. as too who provides more team value, a RB or a DB or extra DL.

Keep in mind, virtually nobody that gets drafted plays special teams....until they are in the NFL. They were the best players at their colleges, so they didnt' have to there.

In the pros, if you don't start, or play a LOT of snaps, you play special teams. Period. Unless you're the backup QB (and even Showers played them last year).
 

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I really haven't been that impressed with Showers. And with Dak looking like he can handle the load think he's worth taking a risk.

We'll see but with Romo's injury prone recent history it would definitely support carrying 3 but not just because we like Showers that much.

Moore is only expected to be out about half the season so he'd definitely be available down the stretch if needed who we still like more than Showers at this point based on last years performance .

If Dak can handle the #2, there's no need for Moore anymore.

Showers would look MUCH better with the ones than he did the other night with the scrub monsters.
 

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But there's got to be something to the charges. Word is, he never touched the girl. Very different with Hardy, which had multiple other facets to that scenario, not to mention a sordid past.

They're not moving forward with the charges. They're just investigating them as they're obligated to do.

If they find something different, then there's been a whole lot of lying going on.

Nobody seems worried about it in the least.
Could be but with 3 players on suspension and already recieving a fine the league is going to be watching closer than normal on the Cowboys itching to suspend another.

I wouldn't take it for granted until it's dismissed.
 

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When you work through the 53, there really isn't much up for grabs.

Smith or Smith (FB)
Wilcox or Frazier
Gachkar or Durant or Morris
Whitehead or Jones
Green or ?

Injuries will answer some of this, but here's the 53 right now as I see it.

QB (3) - Romo, Prescott, Showers
RB (4) - Elliott, Morris, Jackson, Dunbar
FB (1) - R Smith
WR (5) - Bryant, Williams, Beasley, Brice, Whitehead
TE (3) - Witten, Escobar, Swaim
OL (9) - Smith, Free, Martin, Collins, Frederick, Leary, Looney, Frederick, Green

DE (5) - Lawrence, Mayowa, Irving, Tapper, Russell
DT (5) - TCrawford, Thornton, McClain, JCrawford, Collins
LB (6) - Lee, Hitchens, Nzeocha, Wilber, Lewis, Gachkar
CB (5) - Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Olatoye, Brown
S (4) - Jones, Church, Heath, Wilcox

K/P (3) - Bailey, Jones, Ladoceour

PS: Jones, Frazier, Morris, Coe, Jenkins, Akunne

I think the Cowboys will try to sneak Showers to the ps again this year...I doubt any other team would pick him up on waivers. If the first game is any indication, Wilcox may be done. I could see Frazier making this team in Wilcox's stead. Not that he has done a whole lot to suggest he is much better that Wilcox, but I think at this point Wilcox is what he is and that is not good enough. Frazier could develop...and he might not make it past waivers. I don't think the Cowboys will carry a FB this year due to the log-jam at TE, WR and RB. If either of the fullbacks show they can block at some point in preseason, this could change. But for the moment their (the Smith's) best position is Special Team's contributions. Furthermore, due to the suspensions, they will likely also go deeper on DL.
 

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If Dak can handle the #2, there's no need for Moore anymore.

Showers would look MUCH better with the ones than he did the other night with the scrub monsters.
Thats speculation on Showers. We've seen Moore with the starters last year and why he was our #2 coming in.

I definitely believe we could retain 3 on active roster but not because we're overwhelmed with Showers potential .
 
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McFadden makes the team, Jackson to PS, unless they go one less on the DL

You also have Frederick listed twice. So Jackson does stay, and only 8 OL.

I just can't see that happening,,, no way Jackson makes it to PS. McFadden is a bad fit, injury prone, old, costs more,,, he did his best for us but now we have better options.
 

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I think the Cowboys will try to sneak Showers to the ps again this year...I doubt any other team would pick him up on waivers. If the first game is any indication, Wilcox may be done. I could see Frazier making this team in Wilcox's stead. Not that he has done a whole lot to suggest he is much better that Wilcox, but I think at this point Wilcox is what he is and that is not good enough. Frazier could develop...and he might not make it past waivers. I don't think the Cowboys will carry a FB this year due to the log-jam at TE, WR and RB. If either of the fullbacks show they can block at some point in preseason, this could change. But for the moment their (the Smith's) best position is Special Team's contributions. Furthermore, due to the suspensions, they will likely also go deeper on DL.
This sounds reasonable.
 

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Thats speculation on Showers. We've seen Moore with the starters last year and why he was our #2 coming in.

I definitely believe we could retain 3 on active roster but not because we're overwhelmed with Showers potential .

I'm telling you, they LOVE Showers. Romo loves the guy. Showers has a cannon.

Imagine Prescott as the starter and Showers as the backup in a few years. Two similar styles. Wouldn't have to change much if Prescott went down.
 

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I'm telling you, they LOVE Showers. Romo loves the guy. Showers has a cannon.

Imagine Prescott as the starter and Showers as the backup in a few years. Two similar styles. Wouldn't have to change much if Prescott went down.
They may very well love Showers. I'm not disputing that.

I'm not overly impressed like I was with Dak who looked poised enough to lead us if Romo goes down .
 

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I'm telling you, they LOVE Showers. Romo loves the guy. Showers has a cannon.

Imagine Prescott as the starter and Showers as the backup in a few years. Two similar styles. Wouldn't have to change much if Prescott went down.

You make a strong point, but relegating Showers to the PS for another year doesn't necessarily prevent this from happening two years from now. Showers would still run our scout team and fill in where he can get in throughout practice week and by next year he will be that much better as a backup QB for Prescott.
 

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You make a strong point, but relegating Showers to the PS for another year doesn't necessarily prevent this from happening two years from now. Showers would still run our scout team and fill in where he can get in throughout practice week and by next year he will be that much better as a backup QB for Prescott.
It's not necessarily a strong point but simply expressing how much our front office likes Dak and Showers.

It's difficult to always recognize if they're simply trying to sell us. We saw how well Dak performed but Showers wasn't that impressive .

If Dak had performed like Showers we wouldn't be saying we are good to not pursue another backup QB at this time .
 

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I think Showers goes to practice squad. But, I think they find a way to keep TE Rico Gathers. I don't think they waste a 6th Rd pick knowing his potential. I think he makes the 53.
 

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You make a strong point, but relegating Showers to the PS for another year doesn't necessarily prevent this from happening two years from now. Showers would still run our scout team and fill in where he can get in throughout practice week and by next year he will be that much better as a backup QB for Prescott.

They'll never get him through waivers.
 

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They may very well love Showers. I'm not disputing that.

I'm not overly impressed like I was with Dak who looked poised enough to lead us if Romo goes down .

He looked poised because he was playing with a top offensive line and the starting receivers.

His poise would be shaken behind what Showers played with.
 
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