Patton;3764714 said:- Free, Spencer and Folk are products of the last Jeff Ireland draft, so I don't know how much you can even attribute those to Jerry.
- Felix Jones and Tashard Choice aren't even lead dog type running backs to this point. Though, a lot of that is because of the horribly inept guys blocking for them.
- Bennett, I'll concede. He's a better piece that most would give him credit for being. He's a fantastic blocking TE. It's really difficult for a team to get two TEs involved in the passing game from what I've observed around the league. He'd be a bigger deal, if Jason Witten wasn't blocking him, I believe.
- Mike Jenkins, Leonard Davis, Anthony Spencer, Igor Olshansky and Keith Brooking have played as poorly as anyone on this team this year.
- Dez was a good pick. Sean Lee, who I really like, is still a gigantic question mark.
Analyzing this, I'm still not seeing some glut of talent there at least not like the core of the team that was acquired from 2003-2007.
Mash;3764719 said:hahaha.......Bad draft picks = Jerry...
Good draft picks = whoever but Jerry.....
Its pretty funny......
bottom line.....Jerry always has the final say.....good and bad.....
Get used to it......its been that way since he bought the team......
SDogo;3764722 said:Newman?
Hatcher?
Barber?
Spears?
They have been playing above excellent huh?
Which leaves Ware, James and Witten.
Your blinded by your agenda.
SDogo;3764685 said:Just as many players have been brought in pre and post Parcells. Matter of fact more starters have been brought in pre and post Parcells then he brought in himself.
Your point is still missing.
Also, an entire draft is not some misses. 8 out of 32 is not some misses.
Which brings me back to my point. What did all those things that Parcells did benefit ON the field. I'll answer for you NOTHING.CowboysFaninDC;3764710 said:there are more to running a football team than just players and draft picks. obvious from what JG has done and what Wade did with the same group of players.
there is the culture, how you practice, how you go about your business, how you get a team focused, how you prepare.
what parcells saw was a football team in disarrary. no accountability. no knowledge of how a football team should be, act or do.
why did he bring his old players? because they were better than what we had and he wanted to change the culture of the team. he brought players that knew what he expected and could transfer that to the rest of the team by how they conducted themselves and acted.
now you chose to mention a few failed draft picks. but lets not forget newmann, witten, romo, ware, james, barber, columbo (despite his recent rash of injuries and declining play), austin.
and I can give you the exact same list of missed and hit draft players for billicheck, cowher, etc. no team ever hits on 100% of their draft picks including 1st and second rounders year in year out.
and to think we started with Hambrick, Qunincy Carter and Bryant as core of this team.
SDogo;3764722 said:Newman?
Hatcher?
Barber?
Spears?
They have been playing above excellent huh?
Which leaves Ware, James and Witten.
Your blinded by your agenda.
mldardy;3764769 said:Which brings me back to my point. What did all those things that Parcells did benefit ON the field. I'll answer for you NOTHING.
ManicDepressiveMan;3764553 said:Now, 15 years after ruining what Jimmy built, Jerry has succeeded in ruining what Parcells built.
Bill couldn't have been more prophetic when he said that in a few years you wouldn't even be able to tell he had been there.
Jerry Jones has absolutely no clue what he is doing when it comes to football operations of a pro football team.
He is the worst GM and OWNER in sports.
I say owner because only the worst owner in sports would keep the worst GM in sports.
Even if Jerry did step aside, what do we have to look forward to?
Stephen Jones? Probably more football idiocy from the same shallow gene pool.
Then who after him?
Jerry's moppet headed grandson up in the press box with him, learning Jerry's ways?
This team may not ever seriously contend for another championship again.
For what Parcells was brought in here to do: two playoff appearances and zero wins and zero division titles is not good enough. His winning seasons were 10-6 and two 9-7's and collapses in December. What I expected from Parcells was to compete for the Superbowl and win the NFC East and be a factor in January. We weren't.CowboysFaninDC;3764856 said:so two playoff appearances and a winning record 3 out of 4 seasons after 3 years of 5-11 doesn't mean anything?
you expected superbowl wins and he didn't meet your expectations so he failed. but has anyone since Jimmy Johnson succeeded under Jerry? yes Switzer and that was a Joke.
Parcells left because he knew that Jerry is getting more and more involved and that meant disaster. we have deteriorated rapidly since he left and Jerry took full control. very very similar to what happened after Jimmy left. a couple of good years and then total disaster.
mldardy;3764887 said:For what Parcells was brought in here to do: two playoff appearances and zero wins and zero division titles is not good enough. His winning seasons were 10-6 and two 9-7's and collapses in December. What I expected from Parcells was to compete for the Superbowl and win the NFC East and be a factor in January. We weren't.
For what Parcells was brought in here to do: two playoff appearances and zero wins and zero division titles is not good enough. His winning seasons were 10-6 and two 9-7's and collapses in December. What I expected from Parcells was to compete for the Superbowl and win the NFC East and be a factor in January. We weren't.
Apollo Creed;3764901 said:Ya'll company boys are starting to get outta hand.
Show Bill some damn respect. I'm not even the biggest Tuna fan, I hate his archaic defenses and his stubbornness cost his teams countless games in the past.
But the fact that he went 34-30 with those teams was very impressive, considering he only had one year where he felt the team could contend. And if not for a wet ball in Seattle he would've won that playoff game. If you were his age, working for Jerry Jones, after a heart breaking loss like that - you might would want to run away too. He felt that he left the Dallas Cowboys in a much better place than they were in before he left. Because he did.
So show him some respect and please, because without his guys - Romo, Austin, Witten, Ware, Ratliff, Spears, James, Newman - we would be in even worse shape than we are in now.
SDogo;3764730 said:Bottom line here is if your anti-Jerry the Cowboys win despite Jerry and lose because of him. Even though the one common demonitaor the whole time is Jerry Jones.
So enjoy the success while not giving him any credit and blame him for the failures.
Ironically, that's exactly how it works for the 31 other teams as well.
