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Yeah, like two years ago when Rush took over after a dismal showing by Dak versus the Buccaneers.
And we saw the peak of Rush when he threw 3 INTs to the Eagles in a loss followed up by Dak lightning them up later in the year in a win. Face it, Rush is simply not good.
 

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And we saw the peak of Rush when he threw 3 INTs to the Eagles in a loss followed up by Dak lightning them up later in the year in a win. Face it, Rush is simply not good.
The Eagles Rush faced in Philly were not the same Eagles Dak faced in Dallas.
Rush almost won despite Gallup letting the defenders go around him to intercept the passes. He played the full strength Eagles and the officials in Philly.
Dak faced a defense that was coasting- their spot in the playoffs was sealed. They sat Hurts and Gardner Minshew started.
If you're going to tell it, tell it the way it happened.
 

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The Eagles Rush faced in Philly were not the same Eagles Dak faced in Dallas.
Rush almost won despite Gallup letting the defenders go around him to intercept the passes. He played the full strength Eagles and the officials in Philly.
Dak faced a defense that was coasting- their spot in the playoffs was sealed. They sat Hurts and Gardner Minshew started.
If you're going to tell it, tell it the way it happened.
The way it happened was Cooper Rush was 18-38 for 181 yards with 1TD and 3 INTs. They almost won in spite of him. Meanwhile Dak was 27-35 347 yards with 3 TDs and 1 INT. Relatedly apparently in your mind ONLY the Eagles defense was coaxing because they were going all out on offense.

That also doesn’t explain all the other Eagles games where Dak kept lighting them up. It was just Rush who couldn’t because he is not good. He is not a top 50 NFL QB.
 

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The way it happened was Cooper Rush was 18-38 for 181 yards with 1TD and 3 INTs. They almost won in spite of him. Meanwhile Dak was 27-35 347 yards with 3 TDs and 1 INT. Relatedly apparently in your mind ONLY the Eagles defense was coaxing because they were going all out on offense.

That also doesn’t explain all the other Eagles games where Dak kept lighting them up. It was just Rush who couldn’t because he is not good. He is not a top 50 NFL QB.
You see what you want to see, and you tell it how it best suits your narrative.
Most of us saw the actual games.
 

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What he did do was give the offense real production at the quarterback position so the defense didn't have to play alone.
Dak doesn't. He plays great when the Cowboys are dominating, but when they need him to step up he disappears.
Rush stepped up and gave the Cowboys solid quarterback play. Nothing flashy, but solid.
Dak can't do that. Rush is better than Dak.
Three interceptions against Philly, that was good production. Cooper rush lol
 

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You see what you want to see, and you tell it how it best suits your narrative.
Most of us saw the actual games.
no, he sees the facts and truth. more like you see things through beer bottle bottom glasses...and apprantley quite a few.
btw, we all saw the game. Rush struggled. 181 yards, three interceptions is struggling. none of his passes were thrown more than 12 yards down field. if you claim you watched the game. then watch the game. if you claim you watch the fall of the bridge, then do so....don't make up revisionists history.

when you throw 3 interceptions. you don't almost win the game. you cost your team the game.that's what you have argued in the past about Dak...now, its a different measuring stick for Rush. right?

just a heads up. these comments aren't going to age well for you. you know that? right? so sit on your couch and come up with the list of excuses for Rush. get a head a start.
 

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Simply because it's s the most Cowboys thing the Cowboys can do.

They have become extremely predictable.....

Case in point ; is anybody truly shocked about the Mingo trade?
 

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I don't think Dak is dink and dunk, but I don't think Rush is either.
But Rush is more accurate and tends to see the field better, making him more apt to keep the chains moving.
Drew Brees had a weak arm, but it didn't matter. He was effective and able to move the teams he played for, and was very respected.
I think Rush can do the same.
You say you don't think Dak is Dink and Dunk, yet in the post I first responded to you said the Dink and Ducnk days are on IR ...

Brees did not have a weak arm, he just wasn't a big guy.

And are you really comparing Rush to Brees. Come on ... lol

Granted Rush mad some nice, accurate throws this past week, and I would agree he is a solid back up QB, but his history has not been that has been more accurate or that he sees the field better. And certainly not that he moves the ball better or moves the chains better. Again, in the 4 wins Rush had a starter in 2022 it was the defense that won those games. The defense held opponents to 13 points per game, so Rush didn't have to do much to win.
 

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You say you don't think Dak is Dink and Dunk, yet in the post I first responded to you said the Dink and Ducnk days are on IR ...

Brees did not have a weak arm, he just wasn't a big guy.

And are you really comparing Rush to Brees. Come on ... lol

Granted Rush mad some nice, accurate throws this past week, and I would agree he is a solid back up QB, but his history has not been that has been more accurate or that he sees the field better. And certainly not that he moves the ball better or moves the chains better. Again, in the 4 wins Rush had a starter in 2022 it was the defense that won those games. The defense held opponents to 13 points per game, so Rush didn't have to do much to win.
No, it was the defense having help that won the games with Rush.
They knew they weren't alone. Rush could move the chains enough that the field position battle and the score never got out of hand.
He provided stability and leadership for the offense that Dak can't provide.
It became a team game once again, instead of being all about Dak and everyone else being blamed when he failed.
Rush may or may not have success, but he will be better than Dak.
He knows his job and his responsibilities, and he can produce.
Don't be surprised if the defense starts getting a few turnovers. Those tend to happen when the defense can play their game and aren't always on their heels.

The Dak lovers will scream "all or nothing". They will claim any success is because of the defense. They will point to stats that make the passing look inefficient, but history shows that a balanced attack is best.
Regardless of what happens, the Cowboys will be better off because they will finally have a real quarterback under center.
 

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No, it was the defense having help that won the games with Rush.
They knew they weren't alone. Rush could move the chains enough that the field position battle and the score never got out of hand.
He provided stability and leadership for the offense that Dak can't provide.
It became a team game once again, instead of being all about Dak and everyone else being blamed when he failed.
Rush may or may not have success, but he will be better than Dak.
He knows his job and his responsibilities, and he can produce.
Don't be surprised if the defense starts getting a few turnovers. Those tend to happen when the defense can play their game and aren't always on their heels.

The Dak lovers will scream "all or nothing". They will claim any success is because of the defense. They will point to stats that make the passing look inefficient, but history shows that a balanced attack is best.
Regardless of what happens, the Cowboys will be better off because they will finally have a real quarterback under center.
OMG, total lies made up.

Rush led offenses were 22nd in every offensive statistical category. yards, points, etc.....so now you are saying he could move the chains. !!! really. how far back did you reach for that one.
passing yards in the 5 games
230
215
217
76
181


is that how you move the chains?

rush was lucky that the defense played way above their heads and actually scored a couple of times to help him out. we had no business winning that Rams game, with 76 yards passing, but defense gifted him 10 points.

and to say the defense will play better because of Rush? WITF?

the success was because of defense. and lets watch the next few games and see if this defense is going to be better..... your posts aren't going to age well and you are going all in....
 

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It’s weird yall say this the last time he faced Philly he had 3 interceptions.
Thought the same. I mean I think Dak is a total loss this season n all, but these threads are really weird.

Not saying Coop can't win against Philly but overall he doesn't improve the team as far as the offensive potential goes.

I do think however, that the last time they started with him we saw a more controlled, slow and ball managing offensive. They all went along with this strategy and it brought us 4 wins against not so bad opponents.

But it was a different team back then. Many of the players were already in the roster, but there was no fallout like this season. I doubt Rush can repair this in any way. At minimum there is no reason to open a thread like this.

So, whether they win or lose, it won't change the overall picture. If they win three games in a row with Rush, I'll come back to this thread and eat my crow. Good luck Coop, wish you the best!
 

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No, it was the defense having help that won the games with Rush.
They knew they weren't alone. Rush could move the chains enough that the field position battle and the score never got out of hand.
He provided stability and leadership for the offense that Dak can't provide.
It became a team game once again, instead of being all about Dak and everyone else being blamed when he failed.
Rush may or may not have success, but he will be better than Da
He knows his job and his responsibilities, and he can produce.
Don't be surprised if the defense starts getting a few turnovers. Those tend to happen when the defense can play their game and aren't always on their heels.

The Dak lovers will scream "all or nothing". They will claim any success is because of the defense. They will point to stats that make the passing look inefficient, but history shows that a balanced attack is best.
Regardless of what happens, the Cowboys will be better off because they will finally have a real quarterback under center.
You say it was having Rush instead of Dak that won 4 out of 5 games, but after Dak came back they won 6 of the next 7 and 8 of the next 10. The most the team scored under Rush was 25 points. With Dak they had more than that 9 times the rest of the season, and we had 40+ 4 times.

Accordingly, your claim doesn't hold up

There is no evidence that the offense functions better with Rush. All you point to is what you prefer to believe.

And don't go that "Dak lover" path on me. I recognize Dak has flaws, and that they certainly seem to be standing out more this year. But the inescapable reality is that Rush is much more limited in his capabilities than Dak is.
 
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