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Now, onto the topic of Wade Phillips....


Cowboys Head Coaches: Phillips Tops in Winning Percentage, Climbing in Tenure

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 8, 2010 7:00 PM EST





Jerry Jones signed headcoach Wade Phillips to a two year contract, running through 2011.


According to Todd Archer, Wade Phillips' recent contract extension could put him in lofty company in Cowboys History:

If Phillips coaches for the duration of the extension, only Tom Landry will have had a longer tenure coaching the Cowboys. And Phillips hopes to break the tie he would have with Jimmy Johnson if he makes it through 2011.

His winning percentage already ranks as the best in the Cowboys coaching history. With a .667 winning percentage over his past three seasons as the Cowboys coach, Wade Phillips has topped the likes of Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry and Barry Switzer. But until he wins a Super Bowl, he'll most likely be mentioned in one sentence with the other Dallas coaches who haven’t won a Super Bowl, like Bill Parcells, Chan Gailey and Dave Campo.

Make the jump for more on the Cowboys coaches winning percentages and coaching tenures in the NFL.



Cowboys Coaches W/L record, 2006-2009 (including playoffs)

Tom Landry
Jimmy Johnson
Barry Switzer
Chan Gailey
Dave Campo
Bill Parcells
Wade Phillips

Years 1960-1988 '89-'93 '94-'97 '98 -'99 '00-'02 '03-'06 '07-'09
Winning %age .603 .580 .634 .529 .313 .515 .667
W/L record 270-178 51-37 45-26 18-16 15-33 34-32 34-17


The NFL, like any other professional sports league, is a "What have you done for me lately" league. Winning and losing is always the key consideration when it comes to the job security of the head coach. When all is said and done, when losses pile up, the weakest link in the chain is usually the head coach. So it shouldn't come as a big surprise to see that the longer the tenure of a head coach in the NFL, the more likely it is that that head coach has kept the wins coming at a satisfactory level.

Current NFL Head Coaches by Tenure and W/L record with current team (including playoffs)

NFC AFC
Team Coach
Tenure
Win %
Team Coach Tenure
Win %

PHI Reid 11
.608
TEN Fisher 16
.549

CAR Fox 8 .559
NE Belichick 10
.708

NYG Coughlin 6
.573
JAC Del Rio 7
.504

CHI Smith 6
.540
CIN Lewis 7
.491

NO Payton 4
.609
HOU Kubiak 4
.484

GB McCarthy 4
.582
PIT Tomlin 3
.654

MIN Childress 4
.552
SD Turner 3
.648

DAL Phillips 3
.667
BAL Harbaugh 2
.605

ARI Whisenhunt 3
.574
MIA Sparano 2
.545

ATL Smith 2
.606
OAK Cable 2
.321

SF Singletary 2
.520
IND Caldwell 1
.842

TB Morris 1
.133
NYJ Ryan 1
.579

DET Schwartz 1
.125
DEN McDaniels 1
.500

STL Spagnuolo 1
.063
CLE Mangini 1
.313

WAS Shanahan - -
- -
KC Haley 1
.250

SEA Carroll - -
- -
BUF Gailey -- - -



Things that make you go hmmmmm: Of the 21 coaches with a tenure of 2 or more years, only three have a losing record. Of those three coaches, Tom Cable is probably making the best of what looks like a bad situation from afar, Gary Kubiak in Houston just got his first winning season (narrowly) and Marvin Lewis had a tough year in 2008 with the Bengals, but had a good showing this year.

All current NFL coaches combined have a .561 record (1103-862) with their current teams. In a league that each year has the same amount of wins and losses (barring the occasional tie), something has to give sooner or later.

Two years after the fact, even Super Bowl rings do not guarantee the job security of a head coach. Witness the current turmoil in New York around Tom Coughlin.

Continuity vs. the fast fix

The Lions have had eight head coaches this decade, if I counted all the interim HC's right. The Raiders have had six (hard to imagine they were in the Super Bowl as recently as 2002), Commanders owner Daniel Snyder just hired Mike Shanahan to make it six head coaches since 2000, the Browns and Bills both had five apiece.

As you look beyond just the current year, some of the more successful franchises in league history have had long stretches of continued success with the same head coach year in, year out.

The tricky thing is that continuity requires patience, not panic. But today's breed of owners may lack the patience the old breed of owners in the NFL had. The pressure to succeed is relentless, and the punishment for failure is accordingly swift and sure.

Close, but no cigar

NFL history is littered with coaches who compiled very strong records, but ultimately failed to win the big one. Bud Grant, the Vikings coach for 18 consecutive years had a regular season record of 158-96-5 and went to the Super Bowl four times, losing them all. Sound familiar to the younger readers? Yep. Dan Reeves, winner of almost 200 games with the Broncos, Giants and Falcons also lost in the Super Bowl four times.

In 21 years as a head coach, Marty Schottenheimer garnered a 200-126-1 regular season record and led teams such as the Browns, Chiefs and Chargers to the playoffs a whopping 13 times but never won a conference championship, much less a Super Bowl. Our good friend Andy Reid, tied with Bill Belichick for the best active regular season career winning record at .617 (min. 50 career games) has also been remarkably shy around the Lombardi trophy.

If nothing else, having a coach with a long tenure is a good sign that things generally seem to be running at or above expectations.
 

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CCBoy;3273426 said:
With a .667 winning percentage over his past three seasons as the Cowboys coach, Wade Phillips has topped the likes of Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry and Barry Switzer. But until he wins a Super Bowl, he'll most likely be mentioned in one sentence with the other Dallas coaches who haven’t won a Super Bowl, like Bill Parcells, Chan Gailey and Dave Campo.
:hammer:

True with any Cowboy HC.
 

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CCBoy;3273426 said:
His winning percentage already ranks as the best in the Cowboys coaching history. With a .667 winning percentage over his past three seasons as the Cowboys coach, Wade Phillips has topped the likes of Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry and Barry Switzer. But until he wins a Super Bowl, he'll most likely be mentioned in one sentence with the other Dallas coaches who haven’t won a Super Bowl, like Bill Parcells, Chan Gailey and Dave Campo.

And this is the way it should be. Win two Super Bowls here and Wade becomes a legend with the like of Landry and Johnson. Win 0 and he is no better than Parcells and co. This league is about winning it all, and THIS TEAM especially should be about winning it all (not every season but more than once a decade), players, coaches, and management will be judged accordingly.

If they can't handle it or some of our fans can't handle it, go find some other franchise where mediocrity is accepted.
 

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You ever have that weird feeling that something was up but you can't quite put your finger on it? You know...like when you have this mysterious bug that jumps up your craw? Well that's what I had today. Words can't really describe the feeling, it just is. For me, this uncomfortable feeling always seems to strike a nerve whenever someone attempts to post something positive about Wade Phillips.

Well sorry, that dog just won't hunt.

I'm getting sick and tired and tired and sick about hearing how great his regular season track record is. I could not care any less about the regular season record as long as it gets my team in the playoffs - period!

Michael Irvin once said that the regular season is just a formality and that the playoffs are when the Cowboys buckle down and start playing for real. The words aren't verbatim but it's close to the intent of his sentiment.

In this type of system where you have a regular season followed by a playoff format, success isn't defined by only the former and not the latter. You need proof? Then look no further than the 2007 Patriots. You remember...the team that had a perfect season only to flounder in the Superbowl. Instead of being famous, they're now considered infamous for having failed in such a huge way.

It's "stuff" like this is why I refuse to give Phillips a pass. He doesn't deserve it. In fact, he should've been fired in his second season after the Cowboys were manhandled by Philly in the last regular season game, preventing them from going to the playoffs. And for the life of me I can't understand why he's still here. It's baffling.

:bang2: :banghead: :bang2:

When I was going through assessment during my Special Forces training, we had an evaluator that would make us all look like "nancy-boys". This guy was as hard as woodpecker lips and looked the part too. Well on a particuliar sunny afternoon, when our team was handed one hellacious task to do, one student (who was an absolute idiot and smart arse to boot) queried the manly man by asking if this task was going to suck. I swear that you could have heard a pin drop as the rest of us flinched knowing we were going to get it. But the stoic and aloof evaluator simply turned and looked at the idiot and said, "Here's the deal, John Wayne...if I tell you that I'm going to kick you in the balls before I actually do it, do you think that it would hurt any less?"

Words to live by.


Anyway, I'm here to tell you that this next season's going to be a kick in the balls.

And it's only a matter of time before the rest of you start blaming Wade as well and join me over on the dark side...
 

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Wade is building his team. It's just a matter of time. As long as we keep improving similarly to this last year then we'll have our Super Bowl soon enough. While I thought we could have won it this year, you have to get there first. There were several factors holding us back, of which can be greatly improved upon in 2010. This offseason is one of optimism for me, as I can't honestly remember when I have seen a Cowboys "team" of this quality. The youth, Romo's play, the locker room dynamic, scouting department, players we're getting back in training camp, all have me incredibly excited for this season. The NFC will be wide open this year, i just hope we can come out of our schedule healthy.
 

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Draegerman;3274205 said:
You ever have that weird feeling that something was up but you can't quite put your finger on it? You know...like when you have this mysterious bug that jumps up your craw? Well that's what I had today. Words can't really describe the feeling, it just is. For me, this uncomfortable feeling always seems to strike a nerve whenever someone attempts to post something positive about Wade Phillips.

Well sorry, that dog just won't hunt.

I'm getting sick and tired and tired and sick about hearing how great his regular season track record is. I could not care any less about the regular season record as long as it gets my team in the playoffs - period!

Michael Irvin once said that the regular season is just a formality and that the playoffs are when the Cowboys buckle down and start playing for real. The words aren't verbatim but it's close to the intent of his sentiment.

In this type of system where you have a regular season followed by a playoff format, success isn't defined by only the former and not the latter. You need proof? Then look no further than the 2007 Patriots. You remember...the team that had a perfect season only to flounder in the Superbowl. Instead of being famous, they're now considered infamous for having failed in such a huge way.

It's "stuff" like this is why I refuse to give Phillips a pass. He doesn't deserve it. In fact, he should've been fired in his second season after the Cowboys were manhandled by Philly in the last regular season game, preventing them from going to the playoffs. And for the life of me I can't understand why he's still here. It's baffling.

:bang2: :banghead: :bang2:

When I was going through assessment during my Special Forces training, we had an evaluator that would make us all look like "nancy-boys". This guy was as hard as woodpecker lips and looked the part too. Well on a particuliar sunny afternoon, when our team was handed one hellacious task to do, one student (who was an absolute idiot and smart arse to boot) queried the manly man by asking if this task was going to suck. I swear that you could have heard a pin drop as the rest of us flinched knowing we were going to get it. But the stoic and aloof evaluator simply turned and looked at the idiot and said, "Here's the deal, John Wayne...if I tell you that I'm going to kick you in the balls before I actually do it, do you think that it would hurt any less?"

Words to live by.


Anyway, I'm here to tell you that this next season's going to be a kick in the balls.

And it's only a matter of time before the rest of you start blaming Wade as well and join me over on the dark side...

A trainee had just finished jump school and was dining elegantly with his whole following it. His sister asked him how things went in jump school, to which he stated finely. He was leading his way through all preparations up to his final jump from a C-130. On that day, a light came on and all were instructed on his side of the plane to hook-up and proceed towards the open door. He remained frozen, until the other side was given the same order to hook up and move towards the open door. He again froze. The sergeant in charge walked up to the kid and told him if he didn't immediately comply, that he would go get the Jump Master. He remained frozen, at which time a six foot-five, brazen, and totally stone Jump Master walked up to him. Sternly looking at the kid, the Jump Master stated that if he didn't jump, and opening up his crotch area exposing a foot longer, that he would use that on him. The kid's sister then asked him, 'Well, did you jump?' To which the kid stated: 'Not at first...'
 

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Wade is building his team. It's just a matter of time. As long as we keep improving similarly to this last year then we'll have our Super Bowl soon enough. While I thought we could have won it this year, you have to get there first. There were several factors holding us back, of which can be greatly improved upon in 2010. This offseason is one of optimism for me, as I can't honestly remember when I have seen a Cowboys "team" of this quality. The youth, Romo's play, the locker room dynamic, scouting department, players we're getting back in training camp, all have me incredibly excited for this season. The NFC will be wide open this year, i just hope we can come out of our schedule healthy.

So your logic is that as long as Wade is building his team, it's only a matter of time before he gets us to the Super Bowl, right? Okay, fair enough. But tell me why he couldn't accomplish this with the other two NFL teams where he was the head coach?

And let's be completely honest here. He didn't build this team. It was gift-wrapped to him by Parcells. Oh sure he's added and subtracted a few cogs to the puzzle but that doesn't mean he gets full credit for it.

I just can't understand why there are so many of you that believe in this guy. It simply blows my mind. We have a marquee franchise with the 4th most recognized emblem en el mundo...and the talent to bring it all home next year in this 8th wonder of the world type stadium and guess who's leading the train?

[Boom...Boom...BOom...BOOm...BOOM...]

Peanut Gallery: "Oh no! Draegerman, please tell us that you didn't?!!!"

Draegerman: "I couldn't help it. It was the first image that popped into my head."

[Boom...Boom...BOom...BOOm...BOOM...]

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Draegerman: "Yep, afraid so"............[BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...]..."it's the Sta-Puff Marshmallow Man."

I swear this guy acts and looks like a middle-aged Gilligan and yet he still manages to fool a lot of you.

Well, I'm not buying it. I'm a spoiled Cowboys fan and it didn't occur during the 90s. I was spoiled with our great 70s team...and you can bet your Aunt Sally that settling for a single wildcard win in the playoffs was good enough.
 

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Draegerman;3274205 said:
When I was going through assessment during my Special Forces training, we had an evaluator that would make us all look like "nancy-boys". This guy was as hard as woodpecker lips and looked the part too. Well on a particuliar sunny afternoon, when our team was handed one hellacious task to do, one student (who was an absolute idiot and smart arse to boot) queried the manly man by asking if this task was going to suck. I swear that you could have heard a pin drop as the rest of us flinched knowing we were going to get it. But the stoic and aloof evaluator simply turned and looked at the idiot and said, "Here's the deal, John Wayne...if I tell you that I'm going to kick you in the balls before I actually do it, do you think that it would hurt any less?"

Words to live by.


Anyway, I'm here to tell you that this next season's going to be a kick in the balls.

And it's only a matter of time before the rest of you start blaming Wade as well and join me over on the dark side...

I post on another Cowboys forum where a lot of the members are X-Military and they all hate Wade just as much as you do. He's no drill Sargeant but without his defense, we'd be 8-8 or worse...:laugh2:
 

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Draegerman;3274283 said:
So your logic is that as long as Wade is building his team, it's only a matter of time before he gets us to the Super Bowl, right? Okay, fair enough. But tell me why he couldn't accomplish this with the other two NFL teams where he was the head coach?

And let's be completely honest here. He didn't build this team. It was gift-wrapped to him by Parcells. Oh sure he's added and subtracted a few cogs to the puzzle but that doesn't mean he gets full credit for it.

I just can't understand why there are so many of you that believe in this guy. It simply blows my mind. We have a marquee franchise with the 4th most recognized emblem en el mundo...and the talent to bring it all home next year in this 8th wonder of the world type stadium and guess who's leading the train?

[Boom...Boom...BOom...BOOm...BOOM...]

Peanut Gallery: "Oh no! Draegerman, please tell us that you didn't?!!!"

Draegerman: "I couldn't help it. It was the first image that popped into my head."

[Boom...Boom...BOom...BOOm...BOOM...]

Peanut Gallery: "For gosh sakes!!! That's not who we think it is, right?!!!"

Draegerman: "Yep, afraid so"............[BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...BOOM...]..."it's the Sta-Puff Marshmallow Man."

I swear this guy acts and looks like a middle-aged Gilligan and yet he still manages to fool a lot of you.

Well, I'm not buying it. I'm a spoiled Cowboys fan and it didn't occur during the 90s. I was spoiled with our great 70s team...and you can bet your Aunt Sally that settling for a single wildcard win in the playoffs was good enough.

Cordialities first, good morning fella'....:suxjints: :suxiggle: :shoot2:

So Coughlin and Andy Reid ARE the real deal in today's NFL. How about the illustrious coach for Minnesota? Care to add Green Bay to that list? a:storm:

Maybe a refresher on just who Bill Parcells chose to trot onto the field in his offensive line may assist:

2003

Adams - Allen - Lehr - Gurode - Young


2004

Adams - Allen - Johnson - Gurode - Vollers



2005

Adams - Allen - Johnson/Gurode - Rivera - Vollers/Tucker
Oh, and was Petiti in somewhere about here?

2006
Adams - Kosier - Gurode - Rivera - Colombo


He's the same coach that dogged Larry Allen and ran Emmitt Smith off....leaving behind a pair of Hambrick brothers and a couple of ex-baseball players at quarterback.

The operative variable in the NFC for the past nine consecutive years, is that each year a new team emerged from the NFC Championship game. Parcells quit, as did Cowher...and Shannahan was given a pink slip.

That while Wade kept on improving and getting better in the defensive side of the ball. Last year's defense was well above the one maneuvering through the Parcells' implanted 3-4 defense.

Team highs in wins and both offensive and defensive high categories were established under Wade and Jason, where 3,000 yards were difficult in a Cowboys Parcells' driven team. Quarterback and receiving standards have been achieved under current coaches...and Bill tired and quit. Maybe Jerry was just too tough for Bill? After Zimmer left, the defense didn't hang in either.
 

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Draegerman;3274283 said:
So your logic is that as long as Wade is building his team, it's only a matter of time before he gets us to the Super Bowl, right? Okay, fair enough. But tell me why he couldn't accomplish this with the other two NFL teams where he was the head coach?

And let's be completely honest here. He didn't build this team. It was gift-wrapped to him by Parcells. Oh sure he's added and subtracted a few cogs to the puzzle but that doesn't mean he gets full credit for it.

If all this talent was just giftwrapped to him, then why did Parcells accomplish absolutely nothing with this talent while in Dallas? Every team has talent, getting the talent to translate on the football field is another story.

Judging Wade by his accomplishments with the Bills just isn't fair, that franchise is a complete mess and hasn't won anything in the last 15 years. They don't seem to even want to win.

Wade has always been a good judge of talent and the results of his defensive schemes speak for themselves. Let's not be fools and say this team was a Super Bowl caliber team over the last few years, our line has been questionable and until this year our secondary was suspect. We made great strides this past offseason, not only removing the riff raff but getting our players to play up to their potential. Starting Spencer and signing Sensabaugh, Igor, and Brooking were all Wade moves and improved our team.

We're infused with youth, Romo is playing at a Pro Bowl level, we have a young aggressive defense that stops the run and gets to the quarterback, we have a true #1 receiver in Miles, Jenkins is turning into a shutdown corner, and Felix just started showing what we all expected of him at the end of the season.

We have a great building block to improve upon. We have a draft class and a half coming into training camp. We humiliated the Eagles and won a playoff game. We are the team to beat in the NFC East and beat the Super Bowl Champs in their house, when they were undefeated. There's a lot to be optimistic about this offseason, we just need to worry about keeping Romo upright. That will be the difference this season, in my opinion.
 

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Switzer won a Super Bowl and was 43-16 his first three seasons including a 5-2 playoff record for a .728 win percentage at that time, is he legendary to anyone?
 

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Aikbach;3274298 said:
Switzer won a Super Bowl and was 43-16 his first three seasons including a 5-2 playoff record for a .728 win percentage at that time, is he legendary to anyone?






WE DID IT OUR WAY BABY!!!!!!!!!:laugh1:
 

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Aikbach;3274298 said:
Switzer won a Super Bowl and was 43-16 his first three seasons including a 5-2 playoff record for a .728 win percentage at that time, is he legendary to anyone?

Barry walked into a back to back SB championship team there were no holes to fill we had very good starters and depth.

Wade took on a 9-7 team that still had holes who had not known a playoff victory in 13 years. I don't know but to me there is a hugh difference between the situations both men walked into.
 

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Cordialities first, good morning fella'....
He's the same coach that dogged Larry Allen and ran Emmitt Smith off....leaving behind a pair of Hambrick brothers and a couple of ex-baseball players at quarterback.

Hey CC, good evening to you, too.

Larry Allen needed dogging. The guy was getting long in the tooth for his age and thought conditioning involved only breaking his bench press record. Parcells got on him because he was dreadfully out of shape with cardio. The fact is he needed someone (that had a set of big ones) to light a fire under his 4th point of contact and make him realize that it's not just about strength.

Now Emmitt is another story. It was pretty clear that Parcells didn't want him and he had good reason not to. Emmitt was a shell of his former self (as evident in Arizona), with his better days behind him. He also had the "been there...done that" attitude which would've rubbed off on the rookies in a negative way. That's why Bill deferred to Jerry with this matter.

And quite frankly, I didn't have a problem with how he handled either one of these players.

The operative variable in the NFC for the past nine consecutive years, is that each year a new team emerged from the NFC Championship game. Parcells quit, as did Cowher...and Shannahan was given a pink slip.

I'm not sure why you mentioned this but I could not care any less about Parcells, Cowher and Shannahan or the fact that over the last 9 yrs. a new team emerged from the NFC Championship. Besides, rather than being a part of this problem and complaining about it, I chose to offer my candidate as head coach to get our team back to the promise land. Sadly, it fell on deaf ears and now it's a moot point.

That while Wade kept on improving and getting better in the defensive side of the ball. Last year's defense was well above the one maneuvering through the Parcells' implanted 3-4 defense.

Wrong-oh Buck-oh: See below

Team highs in wins and both offensive and defensive high categories were established under Wade and Jason, where 3,000 yards were difficult in a Cowboys Parcells' driven team. Quarterback and receiving standards have been achieved under current coaches...and Bill tired and quit. Maybe Jerry was just too tough for Bill? After Zimmer left, the defense didn't hang in either.

I don't buy that for a second. His best team (and his best chance) to win us a Super Bowl came in 2007 (a Parcells team), and Wade blew it when his team lost the playoff game against an arch-rival that was swept in the regular season by Dallas only to fall way short in their only playoff game.

2006
Adams - Kosier - Gurode - Rivera - Colombo

I cut some of your post up (and apologies for that) so that we all can see what the last offensive line looked like when Parcells quit. If you notice, that 2006 OL is still pretty much intact - and it was a damn good line in 2007. In fact, this offense was ranked #3 overall (regular season) in Wade's first year as head coach. Much credit went to their offensive line that was ranked #9:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Now let's take a look at 2009 (Wade's 3rd year)

Overall Offense (regular season): Dallas was #2

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Offensive line (regular season): Dallas was ranked #15

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Something else you may have noticed is how the OL digressed in sacks allowed from 2007 - 2009:

http://www.coachescorner.com/n_input/nnweb/scores/header_nfl_off_rank.htm

Now although the overall offensive ranking didn't vary much during 2007 & 2009, the same cannot be said about the OL. There was quite a dropoff in sacks allowed and ranking.

My point being that the 2007 offense was better than it was in 2009. And I want you to know that only an idiot would think Sta-Puff micromanaged the offense. This was all Garrett's doing.


With that said, let's take a look at Wade's defense (and for the sake of brevity, I'll only reference Total Defense):

2007 overall ranking (regular season): Dallas was ranked #9

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

2009 overall ranking (regular season): Dallas was ranked #9

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Okay, so for a defensive guru, he's maintained a status quo. Does that sound impressive to you? It doesn't to me but one thing I won't ignore is the intangibles (e.g. injuries, schedule, experience, etc.). So I'll cut him some slack with this and give him some leeway. But it's just that with all the accolades and pedigrees he has had as a defensive coordinator, I just haven't seen that much improvement from 2007 to 2009.

Look, I know Wade is the "chosen one" and there's not a damn thing that I can do to change it. I will tell you this much, though, he is going to have a ton of pressure to deliver us to the Super Bowl next year and he is going to come up way short.

Prepare for a ball-kickin'.



I'll be over here cheering from the "Dark Side". :cool:
 

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CowboyFan74;3274286 said:
I post on another Cowboys forum where a lot of the members are X-Military and they all hate Wade just as much as you do. He's no drill Sargeant but without his defense, we'd be 8-8 or worse...:laugh2:

Thank you for posting this. If possible, I'd like to check out this website that you mentioned. Just pm me the link if you don't mind.
 

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Why didn't you post the rankings in points scored and points allowed, Draegerman. After all, they're the stats that really matter.

But we know why... Because it shows how much the defense improved the last few years. And you can't have that.

Your military background does finally show why you think Gruden is the greatest and Wade sucks, though. It's all about appearances. Pretty superficial, really. Maybe we could hire ex-marine Jim Mora Sr as HC?

Until you look up his playoff record.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3274985 said:
Why didn't you post the rankings in points scored and points allowed, Draegerman. After all, they're the stats that really matter.

But we know why... Because it shows how much the defense improved the last few years. And you can't have that.

Your military background does finally show why you think Gruden is the greatest and Wade sucks, though. It's all about appearances. Pretty superficial, really. Maybe we could hire ex-marine Jim Mora Sr as HC?

Until you look up his playoff record.

Ouch...check and checkmate, game over.
 

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Draegerman;3274205 said:
You ever have that weird feeling that something was up but you can't quite put your finger on it? You know...like when you have this mysterious bug that jumps up your craw? Well that's what I had today. Words can't really describe the feeling, it just is. For me, this uncomfortable feeling always seems to strike a nerve whenever someone attempts to post something positive about Wade Phillips.

Well sorry, that dog just won't hunt.

I'm getting sick and tired and tired and sick about hearing how great his regular season track record is. I could not care any less about the regular season record as long as it gets my team in the playoffs - period!

Michael Irvin once said that the regular season is just a formality and that the playoffs are when the Cowboys buckle down and start playing for real. The words aren't verbatim but it's close to the intent of his sentiment.

In this type of system where you have a regular season followed by a playoff format, success isn't defined by only the former and not the latter. You need proof? Then look no further than the 2007 Patriots. You remember...the team that had a perfect season only to flounder in the Superbowl. Instead of being famous, they're now considered infamous for having failed in such a huge way.

It's "stuff" like this is why I refuse to give Phillips a pass. He doesn't deserve it. In fact, he should've been fired in his second season after the Cowboys were manhandled by Philly in the last regular season game, preventing them from going to the playoffs. And for the life of me I can't understand why he's still here. It's baffling.

:bang2: :banghead: :bang2:

When I was going through assessment during my Special Forces training, we had an evaluator that would make us all look like "nancy-boys". This guy was as hard as woodpecker lips and looked the part too. Well on a particuliar sunny afternoon, when our team was handed one hellacious task to do, one student (who was an absolute idiot and smart arse to boot) queried the manly man by asking if this task was going to suck. I swear that you could have heard a pin drop as the rest of us flinched knowing we were going to get it. But the stoic and aloof evaluator simply turned and looked at the idiot and said, "Here's the deal, John Wayne...if I tell you that I'm going to kick you in the balls before I actually do it, do you think that it would hurt any less?"

Words to live by.


Anyway, I'm here to tell you that this next season's going to be a kick in the balls.

And it's only a matter of time before the rest of you start blaming Wade as well and join me over on the dark side...

:hammer: Pure Gold!!! For the life of me I can't understand why people can't see your point.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3274985 said:
Why didn't you post the rankings in points scored and points allowed, Draegerman. After all, they're the stats that really matter.

But we know why... Because it shows how much the defense improved the last few years. And you can't have that.

Your military background does finally show why you think Gruden is the greatest and Wade sucks, though. It's all about appearances. Pretty superficial, really. Maybe we could hire ex-marine Jim Mora Sr as HC?

Until you look up his playoff record.

Stats don't mean crap if the coach can't MOTIVATE the team to play when it really counts. Wade couldn't motivate this team in 2008 when we needed to win our last game to get in the playoffs. Heck we didn't even show up in that game. We played one good stretch this year and again this team was not MOTIVATED when we played the Vikings. Wade is a good DC, but he is a terrible motivator. We will never go anywhere with him as HC. Our season will end next year with a blowout to a team that is more MOTIVATED than us not more talented..:bang2: :bang2:
 
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