Odds Jerry makes a HC change?

SpaceCowboy99

Well-Known Member
Messages
617
Reaction score
825
Generally curious as to what CZ thinks.

- It's a certainty

- 50/50

- Likely not

I am in the likely not campaign. He'll ignore the red flags blaring all season when we faced a quality team and instead convince himself the games where we were beating up bad teams is the real Cowboys. As has been noted by others, McCarthy is in the last year of his deal and Jerry has done this twice before with Garrett, believing that maybe that last year will incentivize the HC into doing his best work. Plus Jerry is probably loathe to pay two HCs because he probably views that as a failure and a blight against him and his great football acumen.
I have a bad feeling that he is going to encourage DQ to take a job elsewhere, maybe let go of some Defense coaches and bring MM and Dak back. Restructure Daks deal, sign CeeDee and Micah somehow.

Basically he is going to write this up as a defensive flub and the more time that goes by the more it looks like the offense wasn't to blame on paper.

Ronnie and AC will cheer. You should start seeing Dak positive posts from them in another 1-2 weeks.
 

khiladi

Well-Known Member
Messages
37,011
Reaction score
37,573
I’m sure you know how Jerry operates and benching Dak is not an option to him. Now, I would sit down with him and try to get him traded but he will never be benched. If Dallas just lets him play the last season, there won’t be much cap room for much else….it will be a pretty bad season and I don’t see Jerry going in that direction.
Remember, we are also talking about it in the context of the McCarthy factor. He also has 1 year left in his contact and the offense was dumbed down for Dak this off-season. If you extend Dak and hire a new HC, with a new offense that Dak can’t handle, it would be even more of disaster long-term. The most logical choice in my view is, McCarthy and Dak are tied at the hip. You either sit quietly next season and see what happens or you go in a completely different direction at QB and start over with a new HC. Dak learning a completely new offense is not an option in my world as he showed his inability to do it.

In any case, you don’t extend either.
 

Boysdaboys

Well-Known Member
Messages
319
Reaction score
389
I have heard media guys suggest he will get Belichick because he is 81 and wants another Super Bowl.

Imo, I think the fact he is 81 is the exact reason he will not make a change. He doesn't want a new regime and the thought of starting over at his age.

And let's face it. If Belichick comes in and the team immediately wins a SB, who will get all of the credit? We know the answer. Which is why it isn't happening.

Mike returns imo. With Dak, they really can't afford to not bring him back I guess.
 

Tabascocat

Dexternjack
Messages
27,883
Reaction score
39,050
CowboysZone DIEHARD Fan
Remember, we are also talking about it in the context of the McCarthy factor. He also has 1 year left in his contact and the offense was dumbed down for Dak this off-season. If you extend Dak and hire a new HC, with a new offense that Dak can’t handle, it would be even more of disaster long-term. The most logical choice in my view is, McCarthy and Dak are tied at the hip. You either sit quietly next season and see what happens or you go in a completely different direction at QB and start over with a new HC. Dak learning a completely new offense is not an option in my world as he showed his inability to do it.

In any case, you don’t extend either.
Oh, I agree. Just saying the Joneses aren’t exactly logical.
 

khiladi

Well-Known Member
Messages
37,011
Reaction score
37,573
BTW, I don’t find the loss surprising as far as their offense is concerned as this was basically the 49ers game against a Shanny disciple, with a potentially much more talented QB than Purdy. Dallas had trouble with this type of offense, as all the mis-direction goes against Dallas trying to get down as quickly as possible to the QB.

The other point despite the fact is GB was also 5th in red zone defense, they were pretty bad as far as pass defense is concerned. BUT they primarily play Tampa 2, with PLENTY of zone coverage. And we all know Dak sucks against zone and once again proved how he sucks against zone coverages even against a pass defense like GBs.

I mean look at the following:

Not only that, but this defense is uniquely bad at stopping the things Dallas does best on offense. This year’s Packers defense finished dead last in EPA/dropback allowed and QBR allowed on throws to the middle of the field, which is an area where Dak Prescott has thrived this year, particularly on throws to CeeDee Lamb and Jake Ferguson. Lamb, in particular, has been one of the most lethal receivers in the league this year on slant routes, and the Packers just so happen to rank dead last in defending slant routes both by EPA/play and passer rating.

The Packers run a very zone heavy scheme, and for whatever reason they’ve been brutally bad at defending passes in the middle of their zones. That doesn’t bode well for their matchup against Prescott, Lamb, Ferguson, and the rest of these Cowboys. Their likely only hope is their pass rush - which ranks sixth in pressure rate - making enough of a difference. Even then, the Packers’ high pressure rate also coincides with them having the 10th-highest blitz rate, and Prescott has been one of the best passers against the blitz both this year and throughout his entire career.
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pla...ckers-defensive-scheme-joe-barry-matt-lafleur

Dak was not throwing against heavy man defenses, forced to be aggressive try and make things happen because of a big lead.
 

jgboys1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,308
Reaction score
3,124
I would say there is 100% chance that both McCarthy and Dak will both be on the sidelines come the 2024 season.

Jerry hasn't had the 5-11 three seasons in a row yet. It seems he only makes a move when we get in a rut like that.

Jerry considers 12-4, 3 years in a row as a successful rut, even though the outcome is the same every year in the playoffs!
 

Merlin

Well-Known Member
Messages
698
Reaction score
341
Certainly. You have to make it change. McCarthy s offense is predictable, he has had many clown management issues, and his offense looked horrible in the playoffs. In fact, there appeared to be tension with Lamb and Dak in the first quarter. McCarthy is not the answer. Bring him back if you don't want to do anything. Quinn and safeties need to go as well. Never made any adjustments. Bell was clearly not the answer at LBer. Kearse looked horrible. What happened to Israel Muk? He looked good last year.
 

Cowboysfandarin

Well-Known Member
Messages
647
Reaction score
796
Y’all forgetting the bigger picture here. Don’t matter if he keeps McCarthy or even brings in Belichick who wouldn’t coach for Jerry to save his life. The issue is the salary cap. Most of our key players are coming due and there’s no way we’re gonna be able to keep even half of our best players. Number one reason being he’s going to overpay Dak Prescott. We will not be the same team next year that we were even this year. The team is not getting to the Super Bowl not for at least the next several seasons. This year? Was our chance. This was the year we could’ve got it done. Will probably be a
9-8 team next year. Everyone acts like all the players are going to be able to come back and we can just insert a new coach and everything will be great. Yes, we can insert a new coach, but we won’t have the same players. Thank Your mediocre, choke artist, Dak Prescott, and the fat overpaid salary, that he’s about to get for that.
 

Blitzen

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,381
Reaction score
2,585
I'll go 50/50 but I can see that he might not. He'd be wrong though. Not having the team play in a playoff game is totally the coach's responsibility. McCarthy and Quinn just got schooled.
No. It is mostly on the players to be motivated. The coach can help, but these are all professional athletes that have a job to do. Performances like that can mean losing major contract money and possibly being out of a job. If you need someone else to push you much at all, you are in the wrong profession.
 

John813

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,762
Reaction score
36,817
5% chance.

I would think it would have to be Bill B wanting to come here to make a change at HC.
I doubt Jerry would pull a Ross and go to BillB(Ross to Harbaugh when Sparano was still the coach).

To me, it would be either BillB or bust. I don't think Jerry would go from MM to a rookie HC. Only Bill has that experience that I feel the Joneses would feel ok with letting Mike go.
 

Cowfan75

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,960
Reaction score
7,769
Remember, we are also talking about it in the context of the McCarthy factor. He also has 1 year left in his contact and the offense was dumbed down for Dak this off-season. If you extend Dak and hire a new HC, with a new offense that Dak can’t handle, it would be even more of disaster long-term. The most logical choice in my view is, McCarthy and Dak are tied at the hip. You either sit quietly next season and see what happens or you go in a completely different direction at QB and start over with a new HC. Dak learning a completely new offense is not an option in my world as he showed his inability to do it.

In any case, you don’t extend either.
This is probably reality. Waste another season with the same bums just to play out contracts while other teams make needed changes. What does Jerry care? We'll still be the most valuable franchise.
 

Bagman

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,086
Reaction score
3,050
Jerry likes to keep a scapegoat around. He claims credit when the Cowboys win but reserves the right to fire someone else when the team fails. Ridding the team of Quinn might be JJ's big move. And Quinn will leave voluntarily.
 
Top